I dont get it, you’re just misreading their statement…
The average win 11 pc is faster than the average w10 pc because the minimum requirements have changed, they clearly say that it’s because older gen cpus are worse lol, no magic optimization mentions.
AnxietyPretend5215
This is the link that is supposed to back up their claims from that page for anyone interested.
It looks like they were comparing only older Win10 laptops using 6th, 8th, or 10th Gen Intel platforms to newer Win11 laptops using 12th and 13th Gen Intel platforms.
Which… seems a little suspect to me lol.
It also looks like they avoided desktops all together with zero direct before and after testing on the same rig.
screwdriverfan
Average windows 10 pc is not as good as average windows 11 pc because windows 10 runs on older hardware. More news at 11!
Financial_Memory5183
i’m running Start11, makes my 11 machine look like Windows 10. It’s a great utility!
TT_207
The key extract from a link at the bottom of the MS blogpost that is in this article:
>**Windows 11 PCs are up to 2.3x faster than Windows 10 PCs**
>Based on testing performed by Microsoft in December 2024 using Geekbench 6 Multi-core score comparing a selection of Windows 10 PCs with Intel Core 6th, 8th and 10th generation processors and Windows 11 PCs with Intel Core 12th and 13th generation processors. Performance will vary significantly by device and with settings, usage and other factors.
I’m not surprised they made sure you had to pass through another link to get to this information as it’s despicable. As PCgamer said, comparing apples to bowling balls, there’s no basis for making any claim here.
Er_Lord_Shizu
i7-10700K, Z490 Pro, DDR-3000, rx 7900 xtx… my bench marks on 3d mark and pc mark 10 are better under win11 than under win10.
haztech99
How about M$ take that 8th or 10th gen with Windows 10 and compare how fast it runs on Windows 11. Probably 5-10% faster on Win 10.
destry28
Bruh sometimes my fucking explorer takes up to 2 minutes to start. Even the whole OS is shortly dying because of this. Never had this issue with win10
Norbluth
Ms are the kings are skewing stats to make them look good in the moment. They’ve done it forever on the Xbox side. You’ll see shit like “42 billion steps taken in first 24 hours- most of any Xbox exclusive in history!” Shit like that.
Rrrrockstarrrr
Hardly the first time, they bragged about Explorer back in the days when comparing it to Netscape. But, thing is, Netscape had slower modem!
Rrrrockstarrrr
And to add, 11 IoT is indeed faster than my old 10 Pro that I used for 5 years, with basically default settings.
monkeymetroid
Windows 11 is better than 10.
AzureArmageddon
Oh so they lied
What they meant to say is that the PCs that run Windows 11 are generally faster than those that run Windows 10
monchota
Yeah , 11 is faster, after they turn off all the things we can’t.
Cymelion
Man I really hope Steam OS releases an official PC version before October cut off point really don’t want to be forced onto 11.
Stickel
so they’re pulling nVIDIA style marketing, got it, lol
Sync1211
Depending on the source, the speedup between 6th gen and 13th gen is around 240%-260%…
Akhaiz
The sole reason I’m not on Linux yet is because of Steelseries GG software
EJ_Tech
This is a False Equivalence fallacy, right?
Hedhunta
What a weird stat. Of course they are, because win 10 can be installed on literally _anything_ made in the last 10-15 years… maybe even older.
Win 11 restricts what it can installed on artificially to newer pcs… so it would be a shock if they weren’t faster…..
Hurricane_32
_If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been up to 2.3X faster than a bike_
Specialist-Sun-5968
Meanwhile games actually run faster on SteamOS.
Friendly-Advantage79
They’re missing the point entirely. This is not how one compares OS’s influence on the PC’s speed. What you do is you take a WIN 10 PC, benchmark it up the wazoo (CPU, GPU, RAM, temps, voltages, the works) Then upgrade that PC to WIN 11 and repeat all the testing you’ve done. Without changing any of the hardware. Then compare the results.
AnAncientMonk
>ESU
Divini7y
I am now only macOS and Linux guy. Microsoft is going down hill.
blueangel1953
11 is a bloated mess even after removing all of the bloat you can, they can have it.
sloany84
Someone should do a proper test on the same hardware, won’t be surprised if Windows 10 is actually faster.
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Yeah right… It’s likely some extremely obscure optimisation they have done which they can then vaguely use to show a “2.3x increase”.
A bowling ball would be faster while rolling.
In other news: the 12600k is faster than the 8700k
https://preview.redd.it/d0ck421f7h9f1.png?width=797&format=png&auto=webp&s=dd77a3ae25f2c8ac31cdeac13d3c423c50dda6f3
I dont get it, you’re just misreading their statement…
The average win 11 pc is faster than the average w10 pc because the minimum requirements have changed, they clearly say that it’s because older gen cpus are worse lol, no magic optimization mentions.
This is the link that is supposed to back up their claims from that page for anyone interested.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/windows/windows11-performance-claims
It looks like they were comparing only older Win10 laptops using 6th, 8th, or 10th Gen Intel platforms to newer Win11 laptops using 12th and 13th Gen Intel platforms.
Which… seems a little suspect to me lol.
It also looks like they avoided desktops all together with zero direct before and after testing on the same rig.
Average windows 10 pc is not as good as average windows 11 pc because windows 10 runs on older hardware. More news at 11!
i’m running Start11, makes my 11 machine look like Windows 10. It’s a great utility!
The key extract from a link at the bottom of the MS blogpost that is in this article:
>**Windows 11 PCs are up to 2.3x faster than Windows 10 PCs**
>Based on testing performed by Microsoft in December 2024 using Geekbench 6 Multi-core score comparing a selection of Windows 10 PCs with Intel Core 6th, 8th and 10th generation processors and Windows 11 PCs with Intel Core 12th and 13th generation processors. Performance will vary significantly by device and with settings, usage and other factors.
I’m not surprised they made sure you had to pass through another link to get to this information as it’s despicable. As PCgamer said, comparing apples to bowling balls, there’s no basis for making any claim here.
i7-10700K, Z490 Pro, DDR-3000, rx 7900 xtx… my bench marks on 3d mark and pc mark 10 are better under win11 than under win10.
How about M$ take that 8th or 10th gen with Windows 10 and compare how fast it runs on Windows 11. Probably 5-10% faster on Win 10.
Bruh sometimes my fucking explorer takes up to 2 minutes to start. Even the whole OS is shortly dying because of this. Never had this issue with win10
Ms are the kings are skewing stats to make them look good in the moment. They’ve done it forever on the Xbox side. You’ll see shit like “42 billion steps taken in first 24 hours- most of any Xbox exclusive in history!” Shit like that.
Hardly the first time, they bragged about Explorer back in the days when comparing it to Netscape. But, thing is, Netscape had slower modem!
And to add, 11 IoT is indeed faster than my old 10 Pro that I used for 5 years, with basically default settings.
Windows 11 is better than 10.
Oh so they lied
What they meant to say is that the PCs that run Windows 11 are generally faster than those that run Windows 10
Yeah , 11 is faster, after they turn off all the things we can’t.
Man I really hope Steam OS releases an official PC version before October cut off point really don’t want to be forced onto 11.
so they’re pulling nVIDIA style marketing, got it, lol
Depending on the source, the speedup between 6th gen and 13th gen is around 240%-260%…
The sole reason I’m not on Linux yet is because of Steelseries GG software
This is a False Equivalence fallacy, right?
What a weird stat. Of course they are, because win 10 can be installed on literally _anything_ made in the last 10-15 years… maybe even older.
Win 11 restricts what it can installed on artificially to newer pcs… so it would be a shock if they weren’t faster…..
_If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been up to 2.3X faster than a bike_
Meanwhile games actually run faster on SteamOS.
They’re missing the point entirely. This is not how one compares OS’s influence on the PC’s speed. What you do is you take a WIN 10 PC, benchmark it up the wazoo (CPU, GPU, RAM, temps, voltages, the works) Then upgrade that PC to WIN 11 and repeat all the testing you’ve done. Without changing any of the hardware. Then compare the results.
>ESU
I am now only macOS and Linux guy. Microsoft is going down hill.
11 is a bloated mess even after removing all of the bloat you can, they can have it.
Someone should do a proper test on the same hardware, won’t be surprised if Windows 10 is actually faster.