Valve responded to Mastercards claim that they did not pressure anyone: ‘Payment processors rejected Valve’s current guidelines for moderating illegal content on Steam’
Valve responded to Mastercards claim that they did not pressure anyone: ‘Payment processors rejected Valve’s current guidelines for moderating illegal content on Steam’
they can deny it because risk management is considered inside knowledge
, they will just lie
NanoPolymath
Typical. Whenever payment processors make an error, they always find a loophole. Whenever anyone does, it’s pay up or else.
Asher_Tye
It amazes me companies expect others to cover for them.
Fifteen_inches
Of course Mastercard and Visa are lying, they have massive power as the world’s few payment processors and if people start realizing that they might start demanding oversight.
Nanganoid3000
I’m here for the sh*t show, I can’t wait for reddit to burn it’s self down with the outrage for like a day and then move on to another “OMG THIS ISNT FAIR” moment 🙂
asocialanxiety
Either way fuck them. MC and Visa both need to be broken up or put some teeth on them.
Kind-Plantain2438
Steam for presidente of the earth
Muntberg
It’s honestly impressive how quickly mastercard’s statement got refuted. I’d like to know if there’s even a single person who took that at face value.
tensei-coffee
valve should become a payment processor too. id love a steam card.
Bar_Har
What bothers me is the usage of the term “illegal content”, nothing being removed has anything illegal!
pytonhayes
So basically Valve said: “We didn’t fold, they just flipped the table”
honestly it’s so ridiculous that some people decide what is good for so many like we are some clueless child that don’t understand what is good for us
who they think they are
mystictroll
Those credit card corporates have profit margin higher than 50%. Insanely rich and powerful. The hubris got them this time.
Ennocb
1. Mastercard is worried about damaging its brand.
2. Mastercard proceeds to damage its brand.
3. ???
4. Profit
Ectyr
They can say or claim whatever they want. But in PA most dispensary won’t take credit or debit cards for Medical MJ, due to payment processors denying payment.
Wind_Best_1440
Imagine if Valve turned off everyones accounts for a day with a message.
“Visa and Mastercard are abusing their power over steam, a future where steam no longer exists because of Visa and Mastercard is approaching. Without your help, Steam cannot exist. Call Visa and Mastercard at XXXX and let them know that censorship is not okay.”
“If you don’t stand up today, tomorrow they could take all of our games. Even if you paid for them.”
“Help us.”
Then do this as a 24 hour thing globally. With Visa and Mastercards phone numbers on their as well as other payment providers and collective shouts numbers.
And then their local governments reps numbers to call and complain about censorship from payment providers.
I promise you that the shitshow would be so massive. That people would be forced to act.
boredDagon
Cc companies know they have everyone by the balls, so even if they lie and gaslight everyone, what can happen to them, you move to another card company? only if your bank uses multiple creditors. but them whose to stop all the credit cards companies from just following suit? How do you prevent this as Consumers?
PogChump13
Mastercard probably thought that being called out on their lies would be considered damaging to their brand image so Valve would obviously not do that.
ScyllaIsBea
Master card:”oh that? Yeah, uhhh yeah we did that. But that’s not what we said we didn’t do. Yeah, that.”
Bamzooki1
There’s possibly gonna be retribution from MasterCard for this. I smell a court case.
FutureGenesis97
Who do they think they are? It’s time to boycott these S.O.B’s.
AaronBasedGodgers
It’s incredible how MasterCard/Visa, not any government, can tell people what they can and cannot use their own money for (so long as it’s legal)
Hellstorm901
Ahh yes Mastercard, tell me more about how the worlds biggest gaming platform doesn’t want people’s money
Virgin_saint99
None of the material banned from the platforms they work as payment processors are considered illegal in first place. They can consider anything brand damaging and demand censorship.
AdAgreeable7691
“in the sole discretion of the Corporation, may damage the goodwill of the Corporation or reflect negatively on the Marks”
What the fuck is this shit, huh MasterCard ?
WretchedMonkey
Illegal?
Drayenn
I remember a video from chibireviews like last year. He covered how visa and mastercard have done this before.
Theyd tell payment processors to cancel their deal so companies would be forces to do business with another payment processor… But they all charged a lot more somehow.
Visa and mastercard were found orchestrating everything so they can make more money with the new deals.
So yeah, they are 100% guilty and blaming someone for their BS.
Historical-Drop-9906
Ok, it’s about time to move away from mastercard/visa.
PenguinBar_5
Are you sure
Sylarxz
gottem
thomasjmarlowe
I might be wrong, but ‘illegal content’ sounds different than the ‘legal adult content’ they made it sound like.
I could be wrong- I haven’t monitored that story super closely
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they can deny it because risk management is considered inside knowledge
, they will just lie
Typical. Whenever payment processors make an error, they always find a loophole. Whenever anyone does, it’s pay up or else.
It amazes me companies expect others to cover for them.
Of course Mastercard and Visa are lying, they have massive power as the world’s few payment processors and if people start realizing that they might start demanding oversight.
I’m here for the sh*t show, I can’t wait for reddit to burn it’s self down with the outrage for like a day and then move on to another “OMG THIS ISNT FAIR” moment 🙂
Either way fuck them. MC and Visa both need to be broken up or put some teeth on them.
Steam for presidente of the earth
It’s honestly impressive how quickly mastercard’s statement got refuted. I’d like to know if there’s even a single person who took that at face value.
valve should become a payment processor too. id love a steam card.
What bothers me is the usage of the term “illegal content”, nothing being removed has anything illegal!
So basically Valve said: “We didn’t fold, they just flipped the table”
honestly it’s so ridiculous that some people decide what is good for so many like we are some clueless child that don’t understand what is good for us
who they think they are
Those credit card corporates have profit margin higher than 50%. Insanely rich and powerful. The hubris got them this time.
1. Mastercard is worried about damaging its brand.
2. Mastercard proceeds to damage its brand.
3. ???
4. Profit
They can say or claim whatever they want. But in PA most dispensary won’t take credit or debit cards for Medical MJ, due to payment processors denying payment.
Imagine if Valve turned off everyones accounts for a day with a message.
“Visa and Mastercard are abusing their power over steam, a future where steam no longer exists because of Visa and Mastercard is approaching. Without your help, Steam cannot exist. Call Visa and Mastercard at XXXX and let them know that censorship is not okay.”
“If you don’t stand up today, tomorrow they could take all of our games. Even if you paid for them.”
“Help us.”
Then do this as a 24 hour thing globally. With Visa and Mastercards phone numbers on their as well as other payment providers and collective shouts numbers.
And then their local governments reps numbers to call and complain about censorship from payment providers.
I promise you that the shitshow would be so massive. That people would be forced to act.
Cc companies know they have everyone by the balls, so even if they lie and gaslight everyone, what can happen to them, you move to another card company? only if your bank uses multiple creditors. but them whose to stop all the credit cards companies from just following suit? How do you prevent this as Consumers?
Mastercard probably thought that being called out on their lies would be considered damaging to their brand image so Valve would obviously not do that.
Master card:”oh that? Yeah, uhhh yeah we did that. But that’s not what we said we didn’t do. Yeah, that.”
There’s possibly gonna be retribution from MasterCard for this. I smell a court case.
Who do they think they are? It’s time to boycott these S.O.B’s.
It’s incredible how MasterCard/Visa, not any government, can tell people what they can and cannot use their own money for (so long as it’s legal)
Ahh yes Mastercard, tell me more about how the worlds biggest gaming platform doesn’t want people’s money
None of the material banned from the platforms they work as payment processors are considered illegal in first place. They can consider anything brand damaging and demand censorship.
“in the sole discretion of the Corporation, may damage the goodwill of the Corporation or reflect negatively on the Marks”
What the fuck is this shit, huh MasterCard ?
Illegal?
I remember a video from chibireviews like last year. He covered how visa and mastercard have done this before.
Theyd tell payment processors to cancel their deal so companies would be forces to do business with another payment processor… But they all charged a lot more somehow.
Visa and mastercard were found orchestrating everything so they can make more money with the new deals.
So yeah, they are 100% guilty and blaming someone for their BS.
Ok, it’s about time to move away from mastercard/visa.
Are you sure
gottem
I might be wrong, but ‘illegal content’ sounds different than the ‘legal adult content’ they made it sound like.
I could be wrong- I haven’t monitored that story super closely