Where this whole “Cyberpunk 2077 is not an RPG” even come from? There is so many great RPG elements in this game but for some reason people are comparing it to games like Fallout 4 or DA: Inqisition.
Where this whole “Cyberpunk 2077 is not an RPG” even come from? There is so many great RPG elements in this game but for some reason people are comparing it to games like Fallout 4 or DA: Inqisition.
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A lot of people think “RPG” means only some specific style of game and isn’t an umbrella term for any game in which you have roleplaying, character building and such.
These are Bots. Ignore them.
There also people that say Baldurs Gate 3 is not an RPG. Ignore These Bots. They want attention. Its a waste of time to engage with them.
I kind of agree honestly, I think its better at being an rpg than something like skyrim or fallout 4 but its not on the level of something like baldurs gate 3 or fallout new vegas. it still think its a great game
Woe is me, there’s no train system!
it’s a game where you play a role, with pretty deep character development and stories
definitely an rpg
It’s definitely a RPG, anyone saying otherwise is talking out of their ass.
It’s because gamers don’t understand the difference between genre, and sub-genre. Rpg is a genre, arpg, crpg, these are sub-genres.
It’s a good game (my personal favorite of all time). I don’t really care what genre it falls in, nor do I care about the opinion of random idiots on the internet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Whoever made that tier list has horrible fucking taste
It’s an action RPG like the mass effect trilogy. Not a traditional one with 15 different outcomes in each quest.
The writing would suffer and be more video gamey if they took that path.
it has a character with motives and development, world interaction, a storyline, quests that can change the storyline and affect the world, a level up system, you have gear, stats, a skill tree with different character builds. what makes it not an RPG?
Let me see. Character customization, skill trees, decisions shape the flow of the game to a degree. Sounds pretty rpg to me.
Also I played at release on PC. I had one avoidable game breaking bug. (Jackie disappeared if you called him before All Foods)
Edit: Let me add open and explorable world & side quests that can be done at almost any time.
The E3 demo showed V could select several backstory things fleshing out who your V is before starting the game. The demo also stated that V’s (your) choices heavily affect outcomes in the world.
The Cyberpunk official twitter bio stated that the game was an RPG, before changing to something like “action story” (don’t quote me on that)
The released version of the game has you select a life path that does not cause your story to differ at all; you get dialogue options yes, but the result of all of them are the same (with the exception of the Heist, when choices at Whole Foods does change what happens later in the game). So people felt like CDPR led people on to a completely different game than they advertised
My version on series x was extremely playable. Basically lucked out alot. Almost bug free copy. Loved the game since day one. And it’s absolutely an rpg.
If you see something online and then also see it on 4chan, just ignore it. No intellect was involved in that opinion. Only shitposting and rage-bait.
There are thousands that refuse to call a game a “real RPG” unless it has Daggerfall levels of depth.
I feel like Veilguard is an RPG too … action-RPG for sure, but you have pretty detailed builds, etc.
I am a casual gamer, not very familiar with these keywords. What is considered a true RPG? And why is CBP not considered one?
4chan and Twitter is the answer.
You would find more brain cells in the juices oozing out of a torn trash bag outside a fast food restaurant than in those two combined.
don’t even bother, they will never play it, so why should you care?
It’s definitely an RPG but I think it’s a little weak as far as an “RPGs” go. Still a great game now but I hope they invest more time in having some important choices in Cyberpunk 2
“RPG” is basically just as meaningless of a term as “woke”, you can ask 10 people what it means and will get 27 completely different, mutually exclusive definitions.
In the most widely accepted definition, “RPG” is a game, not necessarily a “video” game, that allows you to create character and roleplay as that character in a world that allows said character to use their various skills and abilities, both combat and “social” ones, to achieve their goals – plus, your character gets stronger as you go, earns experience and “levels up”.
If someone tells you a game like Cyberpunk 2077 is not an RPG, you’re talking to your typical “nu uh, you’re wrong” contrarian at best or, at worst, you’re talking to 30 IQ brainlet who has absolutely no clue what the fuck they’re yapping about.
Look at where that was posted.
This clown is using the same tired talking points like any of them are relevant today.
Most people agree that 2077 in its current state is great. To the point where it’s now making all time lists.
And yes this game is an Rpg, anyone who doesn’t think it is, doesn’t understand what an rpg is lol
In short, any opinion that comes from that cesspool, can be safely disregarded.
Remember kids: only you can ~~stop forest fires~~ ignore rage bait
I don’t know about unplayable state as it says on screenshot, played it since day one. Yes it had bugs, I spent some time making many videos of bugs I’ve found, sent them to support and enjoyed seeing those bugs fixed in the next updates.
It’s a great game and contributing in making it even better was an honor.
Tbf theh did change their marketing tag from rpg to action adventure around the time it was released.
I mean I adore Cyberpunk, it’s world and characters. But I would be lying if I said if it’s RPG elements were as good as they could be in regards to the choices in the story or gameplay. The story and gameplay is excellent but I think that when we eventually get a sequel it will be a better RPG.
Things like meaningful cybernetics, limb replacement, cyberpsychosis, more impactful choices on the world and characters (other than just doing one of the few friend quest lines to make them happy or failing it to make them hate you) would make things better. Not asking for a Skyrim clone with companions and a bloated skill tree, but there should be something more than just being able to open doors if you have a high Body skill, make it so it is a requirement do to the Beat on the Brat questline.
Have alliances with either gangs or corpos, make things really impact your experience and have your choices carry weight. Most of your choices is just getting a bonus payout without impacting the narrative.
Like Militech is a rival to Arisaka right? What if you were on the Corpo path, and siding with Meredith in the beginning opened up a route to start something between them as a questline that would replace you using the Nomads
Ahh, yes, Fallout 4, where you can roleplay as either a white knight, a sadistic monster or a comedic observer. With no middleground for any option
I mean tbh that guy is right it’s a very light RPG at best and no I’m not asking for 15 different outcomes for each quest but most quests in this game besides side quests literally have one outcome to them except the ending and a couple other missions like the first all foods factory mission also the fact that all life paths merge so quickly don’t help.
I think the tricky part is that both cyberpunk and diablo are rpgs, but there is very little common ground between the two. If your definition of rpg is more about gameplay, cyberpunk barely fits that definition. You have some character building/leveling mechanics, but that’s about it. Meanwhile, if your definition of rpg is more oriented around story stuff, then diablo would fall into the “barely an rpg” category.
People complain about every videogame ever created. This is one of the best games I’ve ever played, so I couldn’t care less about these complaints. I never asked for an RPG.
Well to start, you have three characters you can choose from at the start and none of them matter in the end. NPCs are just window curtains. Fighting the NCPD is shit when you can just jump on a roof and they time out with no consequence. Gigs have no consequence from fucking up, just a scolding. The only choice you have is at the end meeting Hanako at Embers. This is not an RPG, it’s just a shoot’em up with some lame puzzles.
Its because cyberpunk was a table top rpg like dungeons and dragons. So when they heard about a cyberounk game, they were hoping for a videogame version of the table top, like how bauldurs gate 3 is a video game version of dungeons and dragons. People want a video game version of cyberounk the table top game. 2077 is not that. Its still a good game with rpg elements but your character basically has a pretty set personality and only a couple different quest outcomes, its not like bg3 and thats what some people really wanted
I love cp2077, but I still really want a video game version of the table top rpg eventually
I think that RPG has lost all the meanings it has. The thing is, a classic RPG is a game where you can take on a role and develop your character following the role you set in your mind to follow. This was born way before videogames and the term became diluted because every videogame with a skill tree is suddenly a RPG nowadays. That’s not it, I think you should be able to play that role how you want and experiment with a story where you are the protagonist.
Games like Cyberpunk are a subgenre of RPGs, mostly because the story revolves around a character which isn’t entirely up to you. You are playing as V, and yes, V can be different from player to player, but the story you will follow will always be mostly the same. You will always have the relic implanted, you will always have to find a way to survive, you will always have to go to the Ember to meet Hanako.
That’s why imho it cannot be considered a classic term RPG, but an action RPG, with a skill tree which gives you enough freedom to specialize in vastly different things (even though they are limited in quantity), you have some choices that can influence the story and relationship with some characters, but in the end, only one of them really matters, and it’s the final one.