Them changing a patent during a lawsuit should automatically show the government that the lawsuit needs to be thrown out.
MedicOfTime
Really disappointed with how scummy Nintendo is being over…basically nothing.
blits202
How come Nintendo wanting to protect their intellectual property is so controversial but its fine when other companies do it.
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**TL;DR**
Nintendo is suing Palworld devs for allegedly copying Pokémon mechanics. PocketPair responded by removing or changing those features. Nintendo then awkwardly edited its own patent mid-lawsuit, which is seen by experts as a desperate and risky move.
smellyourdick
>According to an article by Games Fray, Nintendo had a surprising update when **the company changed the language behind one of its patents during the middle of the ongoing lawsuit**.
>The updated patent has a new, lengthy paragraph regarding characters boarding different aerial characters seamlessly, filled with technical jargon that is even difficult for legal experts to unravel. However, **what strikes the most confusion is the inclusion of an** ***”even when”*** **statement**, seen at the beginning of the rideable mount section of the patent.
>The phrase *”even”* is rarely used in legal text, as it is far too subjective for the terminology needed to narrow down what copyright is being claimed. According to Florian Mueller from the Game Fray article, **this deliberate use of** ***”even”*** **could be Nintendo’s attempt to make their patent more vague**. When a patent is vague, it is harder to claim it as invalid when a lawsuit for infringement is being discussed.
pretty shady move by nintendo imo
Koctopuz
Intentionally updating a patent mid lawsuit to make it **more** vague so it’s harder to dispute as invalid. How do people actually defend Nintendo in this situation? This is objectively a disgusting practice that should never be allowed.
SecurityOdd4861
Boycott nintendo
MitsubishiSashimi
I get that Nintendo is punching down which sucks, but also, Palworld IS like..pretty damn shameless when it comes to ripping off Pokémon at least aesthetically. They are CLEARLY trying to appeal directly to Pokémon’s fan base by looking AS MUCH like Pokémon as it possibly can, to the point of it being legally questionable. At some point, I CAN understand Nintendo being pissed off about it.
Ghost403
Nintendo retrospectively creating and altering parents to claim IP infringements is the definition of unethical. They did not invent the monster catching genre, but Pokemon did sensationalize it. Likewise for most of the game series features.
Azuriaze
Nintendo fans are so brainwashed even a mediocre game like donkey Kong bananza has got them in a frenzy cause they don’t know what a good game is for so long.
Blubbpaule
Do we have actual sources? Or just a random Website stating all this as fact?
EDIT: “Here’s the decision that finds that those claims do not introduce any new technical matter, meaning that (to use our metaphor from further above) the modified claims are still based on what is found in the 2021 primordial patent soup”
Japanese patent law decided that these small changes don’t change the 2021 patent.
So this article is ragebait.
The original games fray article is also Very biased. This is not some reporting on the matter, this is an article defending pocketpair.
I too believe it’s scummy what nintendo does. But we do not need to add tons of speculation to this entire matter.
Nogarda
And lets not forget that nintendo filed these AFTER palworld released.
Chemi_calls
Bunch of bullies.
Germangunman
Nintendo has been around for so long they know what they are trying to do. Hopefully it doesn’t work. Sorry Nintendo, not on your side this time.
apathetic_vaporeon
This is why I didn’t get a Switch 2 and went full PC. They’re not getting another penny from me.
geriactricpillbug
Im never buying a Nintendo product again. Absolute scumbag company. Shitty expensive hardware and expensive overrated games.
I know it won’t happen but maybe enough people will realize its time to do the same.
Diacetyl-Morphin
You can like and love the Nintendo games and consoles, i mean, i had so much fun in the old times with Zelda on N64 etc. but… fuck Nintendo when it comes to handling such things like suing other companies and taking down streamers, fanclubs, fan art etc.
Tourage
Nintendo is bleeding. Who would guess that the only one capable of beating a pokemon is a pokemon holding a machine gun.
MaadMaxx
Goddamn it.
banfan4eva
I have been a lifelong Pokémon fan. I had nothing to say on palworld as I haven’t played it. With what Nintendo are doing my my American friends with the user agreement and the bricking. Also the ridiculous pricing. I wish palworld a victory.
mjtwelve
Any article that uses the phrases copyright and patent in the same paragraph interchangeably shouldn’t merit much weight or comment.
If you’ve never studied patent law, it almost certainly doesn’t work like you think it does, and maybe even less so in Japan. I doubt there’s five people in this thread who know enough Japanese and enough about patent law to have a valid opinion.
Sufficient-Science71
This is why not even duskblood is going to convince me to spend even a dime for this pustulent scrotum
Bicone
Nintendo is an amazing company which makes one of the best hardware and games, I stand with them. As for developers which build their games on shamelessly deriving features from other games or IPs, stealing even – they have to be taught a lesson. And PalWorld devs aren’t the good guys here, they just slightly retouched Pokemons for their game and scored the bank because of it.
bluedragjet
Does anyone have a source of the new patent because neither screenrant nor the original source has it
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Typical Nintendo legal bullshit, not surprised
Them changing a patent during a lawsuit should automatically show the government that the lawsuit needs to be thrown out.
Really disappointed with how scummy Nintendo is being over…basically nothing.
How come Nintendo wanting to protect their intellectual property is so controversial but its fine when other companies do it.
**TL;DR**
Nintendo is suing Palworld devs for allegedly copying Pokémon mechanics. PocketPair responded by removing or changing those features. Nintendo then awkwardly edited its own patent mid-lawsuit, which is seen by experts as a desperate and risky move.
>According to an article by Games Fray, Nintendo had a surprising update when **the company changed the language behind one of its patents during the middle of the ongoing lawsuit**.
>The updated patent has a new, lengthy paragraph regarding characters boarding different aerial characters seamlessly, filled with technical jargon that is even difficult for legal experts to unravel. However, **what strikes the most confusion is the inclusion of an** ***”even when”*** **statement**, seen at the beginning of the rideable mount section of the patent.
>The phrase *”even”* is rarely used in legal text, as it is far too subjective for the terminology needed to narrow down what copyright is being claimed. According to Florian Mueller from the Game Fray article, **this deliberate use of** ***”even”*** **could be Nintendo’s attempt to make their patent more vague**. When a patent is vague, it is harder to claim it as invalid when a lawsuit for infringement is being discussed.
pretty shady move by nintendo imo
Intentionally updating a patent mid lawsuit to make it **more** vague so it’s harder to dispute as invalid. How do people actually defend Nintendo in this situation? This is objectively a disgusting practice that should never be allowed.
Boycott nintendo
I get that Nintendo is punching down which sucks, but also, Palworld IS like..pretty damn shameless when it comes to ripping off Pokémon at least aesthetically. They are CLEARLY trying to appeal directly to Pokémon’s fan base by looking AS MUCH like Pokémon as it possibly can, to the point of it being legally questionable. At some point, I CAN understand Nintendo being pissed off about it.
Nintendo retrospectively creating and altering parents to claim IP infringements is the definition of unethical. They did not invent the monster catching genre, but Pokemon did sensationalize it. Likewise for most of the game series features.
Nintendo fans are so brainwashed even a mediocre game like donkey Kong bananza has got them in a frenzy cause they don’t know what a good game is for so long.
Do we have actual sources? Or just a random Website stating all this as fact?
EDIT: “Here’s the decision that finds that those claims do not introduce any new technical matter, meaning that (to use our metaphor from further above) the modified claims are still based on what is found in the 2021 primordial patent soup”
Japanese patent law decided that these small changes don’t change the 2021 patent.
So this article is ragebait.
The original games fray article is also Very biased. This is not some reporting on the matter, this is an article defending pocketpair.
I too believe it’s scummy what nintendo does. But we do not need to add tons of speculation to this entire matter.
And lets not forget that nintendo filed these AFTER palworld released.
Bunch of bullies.
Nintendo has been around for so long they know what they are trying to do. Hopefully it doesn’t work. Sorry Nintendo, not on your side this time.
This is why I didn’t get a Switch 2 and went full PC. They’re not getting another penny from me.
Im never buying a Nintendo product again. Absolute scumbag company. Shitty expensive hardware and expensive overrated games.
I know it won’t happen but maybe enough people will realize its time to do the same.
You can like and love the Nintendo games and consoles, i mean, i had so much fun in the old times with Zelda on N64 etc. but… fuck Nintendo when it comes to handling such things like suing other companies and taking down streamers, fanclubs, fan art etc.
Nintendo is bleeding. Who would guess that the only one capable of beating a pokemon is a pokemon holding a machine gun.
Goddamn it.
I have been a lifelong Pokémon fan. I had nothing to say on palworld as I haven’t played it. With what Nintendo are doing my my American friends with the user agreement and the bricking. Also the ridiculous pricing. I wish palworld a victory.
Any article that uses the phrases copyright and patent in the same paragraph interchangeably shouldn’t merit much weight or comment.
If you’ve never studied patent law, it almost certainly doesn’t work like you think it does, and maybe even less so in Japan. I doubt there’s five people in this thread who know enough Japanese and enough about patent law to have a valid opinion.
This is why not even duskblood is going to convince me to spend even a dime for this pustulent scrotum
Nintendo is an amazing company which makes one of the best hardware and games, I stand with them. As for developers which build their games on shamelessly deriving features from other games or IPs, stealing even – they have to be taught a lesson. And PalWorld devs aren’t the good guys here, they just slightly retouched Pokemons for their game and scored the bank because of it.
Does anyone have a source of the new patent because neither screenrant nor the original source has it