You shouldn’t be giving them money in the first place and you get what you pay for… But still. Fuck them.
Lyra_the_Star_Jockey
My opinion on an unsourced social media post meant to induce outrage?
CrawlerSiegfriend
It’s amazing that people are actually buying this with that killswitch functionality in it.
CaptainPrower
Brazil is in the right, but they’re about to find out the hard way what a juggernaut Nintendo’s legal department is.
EDIT: **OKAY I GET IT**
Loklokloka
Good. Brazil is absolutely correct.
Zenry0ku
My thought is “piracy”
CertifiedBrian
Makes me wanna change my region to Brazil and my username to “Twink Link”
imlegos
Mm. yes. the ability to ‘brick consoles at will’ when you connect to the internet with hacked systems.
Something that’s been part of every console that has had internet access since the wii, xbox 360 and ps3.
bbq_R0ADK1LL
Deplorable policy by Nintendo. It sucks that governments have to step in & protect consumers from things like this, but the market is broken & people keep buying these products, so Nintendo won’t change unless they’re forced to.
SaiyajinPrime
Nintendo and every other company that manufactures devices that you can own should not be able to brick that device no matter what the reason.
Revoke your access to their online services? Absolutely yes.
Render the device unusable? Absolutely no.
Fuck Nintendo.
jeancv8
Can’t wait to see Nintendo fans defend this one. 🍿
Snotnarok
There’s not much opinion to be had- Nintendo has no right to brick something that you bought and own. ToS isn’t law, they don’t get to take back something because they don’t like how you use it.
I don’t even do this kinda thing often. Last thing I did it to was my PSP after Sony was well done with the platform n’ it was mostly to play games without my disc for better battery life and loading speed.
PixelatedGamer
That’s been a staple of consoles since at the PS3/360 days. Are they going to sue Sony and Microsoft too? And Nintendo isn’t just going to do it for the lulz. If you have a hacked system or pirated game then you’re barred from their online services.
Jonatc87
my opinion is “Stop Killing Games”. Consoles/Games are NOT rented. They are PURCHASED.
trapdave1017
No manufacturer should be able to permanently brick a console, especially with many reports stating that Nintendo has no way to reverse it once done. That sets a really bad precedent if no one were to contest this in court. Hopefully Brazil wins
miscman127
Lol been a thing since Xbox 360, glad it’s getting for attention
_mini
Not just Nintendo, all the retailers are abusing their positions against consumers these days.
Dont_have_a_panda
Yet they are fine with playstation and xbox doing it? Curious how the Brazilian laws works
SuzyYa
Does the ban really turn the entire system into a paper weight? Aren’t they creating E-waste doing this?
Proper-Award2660
Awesome
julesvr5
My opinion is thst way to many people know thst every console manufacturer can do this but everyone only shits on Nintendo for whatever reason. This also could be done with the Switch 1 already. Had it happened? No.
Either don’t shit on anyone or on all of them. Shitting just on one is double standards.
For the problem itself: yes, the manufacturers shouldn’t have the power to brick your console. Even if they never did it before, they shouldn’t be able to in the first place.
Razerfilm
Yea.. they should give 2 warnings and them brick them. No warning is not right
theblackyeti
lol there was a positive thread earlier so it was only a matter of time before r/games found another reason to work themselves into a frothing frenzy.
Supple_Giraffe-89
Don’t steal games or hack into their system. If you don’t want to follow their rules then don’t buy their system and sign into their online service. It’s not that hard.
Pedrosian96
I think Nintendo is welcome to keep its KillSwitch in storage and out of my life.
hops_on_hops
Y’all seemuneducated on this topic. You want an incentive for your devices to be stolen and resold? Do they not sell Samsung or Apple phones in Brazil? An activation lock is getting to be pretty standard.
On the whole, deffering the market for theft is probably more important than some vague concern Nintendo will suddenly turn against their customers.
Steef-1995
My opinion? People are taking it out of contrast. What will happen with your digital games when the PS4 store shuts down? Or when the PS6 doesn’t give compatibility to ps4 games.
Nintendo is bricking systems that are trying pirated games on them. Is PlayStation or Xbox different?
R-TheKingSlayerX
Just don’t but their products vote with your wallet
TheAncientMillenial
Fuck Nintendo.
JonTheWizard
Brazil is unimaginably based on this one.
CanIGetANumber2
The fuck happened to Nintendo?
xeltes
Yeah Brazil is right about that.
Remote_Marzipan7422
Fuck yeah- if I pay that much for a console they have no right to essentially destroy it at any time. Kind of barking up the same tree as Stop Killing Games here, but this goes against 2000 of years of commerce and business standards that exist for a reason!
Hall_c2
I hope they get reemed and this stops being a thing companies can do. Any company that bricks a console should be liable for the cost of the console and any legal costs used in recovery. Screw them and every other console company that thinks they have the right to destroy someone else’s property.
DocPhilMcGraw
So I read a few articles on this and apparently the Brazilian agency’s main concern is that Nintendo can brick the console **without explanation or notice.** It would seem that if Nintendo altered the EULA to provide notice before a ban occurs that it would be permissible. Nintendo says it will respond in 20 days though so we shall see.
PizzaTime666
I think brazil is right, companies should not have the qbility to brick your device at will. And the fact anyone is trying to defend this is insane. Some argue “well nintenod hasnt done it, so whats the harm?”. Its like saying i put a small bomb in your car that will destroy your engine but i havent blown it up yet so what’s the harm?
-BluBone-
American lawmakers need to catch up
Spider-gal
There’s a soccer(uk football) joke here somewhere. If someone who watches soccer knows, please let me know.
thegingerninja90
Frankly, Im not saying Nintendo shouldnt have the right or ability to brick the console, but they should be legally required to refund the full cost of your purchase if they do.
Cloontange
I really wish people would stop supporting Nintendo but this is the world we live in. Brazilian W
Jeshwahh
But would they still be Nintendo if they didn’t constantly do stuff like this?
TwiKing
Brazil leading the way! Praise Brazil, the GOAT!
Strayed8492
They can brick them on demand? No wonder people will prefer classics on digital preservation systems.
Hefty-Ant-378
It’s a Fine line…I get people like to Mod and emulate but don’t be silly enough to go online with your modded version…They warned you they will do it so why in the hell would you chance it? If you’re dumb enough to try them, you’re dumb enough to have a bricked system. 😂🤷🏽♂️
The_Advocate07
This clause has existed in the TOS of every single console manufactured in the last 20 years. Ya’ll are morons.
Broad_Elephant2795
Legality of the TOS should be challenged, but you can’t realistically stop someone from being able to brick a system when they provide the software updates.
thatHecklerOverThere
I don’t pay ~500 to _lease_ hardware, so… Certainly seems abusive to me.
Now, as for Brazilian law, that’s a matter for Brazilian lawyers.
48 Comments
Brazil has it right
Based. Fuck Nintendo.
You shouldn’t be giving them money in the first place and you get what you pay for… But still. Fuck them.
My opinion on an unsourced social media post meant to induce outrage?
It’s amazing that people are actually buying this with that killswitch functionality in it.
Brazil is in the right, but they’re about to find out the hard way what a juggernaut Nintendo’s legal department is.
EDIT: **OKAY I GET IT**
Good. Brazil is absolutely correct.
My thought is “piracy”
Makes me wanna change my region to Brazil and my username to “Twink Link”
Mm. yes. the ability to ‘brick consoles at will’ when you connect to the internet with hacked systems.
Something that’s been part of every console that has had internet access since the wii, xbox 360 and ps3.
Deplorable policy by Nintendo. It sucks that governments have to step in & protect consumers from things like this, but the market is broken & people keep buying these products, so Nintendo won’t change unless they’re forced to.
Nintendo and every other company that manufactures devices that you can own should not be able to brick that device no matter what the reason.
Revoke your access to their online services? Absolutely yes.
Render the device unusable? Absolutely no.
Fuck Nintendo.
Can’t wait to see Nintendo fans defend this one. 🍿
There’s not much opinion to be had- Nintendo has no right to brick something that you bought and own. ToS isn’t law, they don’t get to take back something because they don’t like how you use it.
I don’t even do this kinda thing often. Last thing I did it to was my PSP after Sony was well done with the platform n’ it was mostly to play games without my disc for better battery life and loading speed.
That’s been a staple of consoles since at the PS3/360 days. Are they going to sue Sony and Microsoft too? And Nintendo isn’t just going to do it for the lulz. If you have a hacked system or pirated game then you’re barred from their online services.
my opinion is “Stop Killing Games”. Consoles/Games are NOT rented. They are PURCHASED.
No manufacturer should be able to permanently brick a console, especially with many reports stating that Nintendo has no way to reverse it once done. That sets a really bad precedent if no one were to contest this in court. Hopefully Brazil wins
Lol been a thing since Xbox 360, glad it’s getting for attention
Not just Nintendo, all the retailers are abusing their positions against consumers these days.
Yet they are fine with playstation and xbox doing it? Curious how the Brazilian laws works
Does the ban really turn the entire system into a paper weight? Aren’t they creating E-waste doing this?
Awesome
My opinion is thst way to many people know thst every console manufacturer can do this but everyone only shits on Nintendo for whatever reason. This also could be done with the Switch 1 already. Had it happened? No.
Either don’t shit on anyone or on all of them. Shitting just on one is double standards.
For the problem itself: yes, the manufacturers shouldn’t have the power to brick your console. Even if they never did it before, they shouldn’t be able to in the first place.
Yea.. they should give 2 warnings and them brick them. No warning is not right
lol there was a positive thread earlier so it was only a matter of time before r/games found another reason to work themselves into a frothing frenzy.
Don’t steal games or hack into their system. If you don’t want to follow their rules then don’t buy their system and sign into their online service. It’s not that hard.
I think Nintendo is welcome to keep its KillSwitch in storage and out of my life.
Y’all seemuneducated on this topic. You want an incentive for your devices to be stolen and resold? Do they not sell Samsung or Apple phones in Brazil? An activation lock is getting to be pretty standard.
On the whole, deffering the market for theft is probably more important than some vague concern Nintendo will suddenly turn against their customers.
My opinion? People are taking it out of contrast. What will happen with your digital games when the PS4 store shuts down? Or when the PS6 doesn’t give compatibility to ps4 games.
Nintendo is bricking systems that are trying pirated games on them. Is PlayStation or Xbox different?
Just don’t but their products vote with your wallet
Fuck Nintendo.
Brazil is unimaginably based on this one.
The fuck happened to Nintendo?
Yeah Brazil is right about that.
Fuck yeah- if I pay that much for a console they have no right to essentially destroy it at any time. Kind of barking up the same tree as Stop Killing Games here, but this goes against 2000 of years of commerce and business standards that exist for a reason!
I hope they get reemed and this stops being a thing companies can do. Any company that bricks a console should be liable for the cost of the console and any legal costs used in recovery. Screw them and every other console company that thinks they have the right to destroy someone else’s property.
So I read a few articles on this and apparently the Brazilian agency’s main concern is that Nintendo can brick the console **without explanation or notice.** It would seem that if Nintendo altered the EULA to provide notice before a ban occurs that it would be permissible. Nintendo says it will respond in 20 days though so we shall see.
I think brazil is right, companies should not have the qbility to brick your device at will. And the fact anyone is trying to defend this is insane. Some argue “well nintenod hasnt done it, so whats the harm?”. Its like saying i put a small bomb in your car that will destroy your engine but i havent blown it up yet so what’s the harm?
American lawmakers need to catch up
There’s a soccer(uk football) joke here somewhere. If someone who watches soccer knows, please let me know.
Frankly, Im not saying Nintendo shouldnt have the right or ability to brick the console, but they should be legally required to refund the full cost of your purchase if they do.
I really wish people would stop supporting Nintendo but this is the world we live in. Brazilian W
But would they still be Nintendo if they didn’t constantly do stuff like this?
Brazil leading the way! Praise Brazil, the GOAT!
They can brick them on demand? No wonder people will prefer classics on digital preservation systems.
It’s a Fine line…I get people like to Mod and emulate but don’t be silly enough to go online with your modded version…They warned you they will do it so why in the hell would you chance it? If you’re dumb enough to try them, you’re dumb enough to have a bricked system. 😂🤷🏽♂️
This clause has existed in the TOS of every single console manufactured in the last 20 years. Ya’ll are morons.
Legality of the TOS should be challenged, but you can’t realistically stop someone from being able to brick a system when they provide the software updates.
I don’t pay ~500 to _lease_ hardware, so… Certainly seems abusive to me.
Now, as for Brazilian law, that’s a matter for Brazilian lawyers.