He says they're shifting plans to make windows 11 not so shit for handhelds. If you saw the recent Dave2D video you'll see just how brutal windows is compared to steam OS.
He says they're shifting plans to make windows 11 not so shit for handhelds. If you saw the recent Dave2D video you'll see just how brutal windows is compared to steam OS.
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Probably a good idea.
The handheld market is getting really crowded.
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Xbox consoles are already selling relatively low this generation, a handheld would probably sell much lower.
It’s honestly impressive that a company that owns its own video game console, couldn’t figure out how to make the most popular platform in the world (Windows) a decent place to game.
Imagine a competitive windows gaming OS and store that rivaled Steam.
This article is based on very poor sourcing – for instance, the author has the incorrect internal name for the handheld he is referring to. Actually incorrect – this is not like when the codename for the Series X initially leaked as “Scarlet” and not “Scarlett”, which bothered me enough at the time. This is a lot worse.
To copy and paste something I posted elsewhere:
“This is a priority shift and should not impact anything that matters – engineering effort is being shifted to getting the OS into shape; I would wait for more information to leak before worrying about next-gen stuff like the forthcoming handheld intended to launch alongside the next console — I word things this way because Pembrooke is not and never has been the codename for that handheld, which calls into question the sourcing of the article and the level of insight the author has into the situation.
The rumors coming out of good sources were that MS had two handheld devices in works internally – a handheld that runs the ‘Xbox OS’ and one that runs ‘future Windows Decky Thing’, which are similar but not identical in terms of hardware, intended for different eventualities and reflective of a platform shift that began long ago. It would make intuitive sense that one or both would become lower priorities than getting the moonshot – Real Windows for Xbox – done.”
Over the coming hours, one should expect something along those lines to be published by better sourced people who cover Microsoft. Also, it’s not nice to leak internal meetings without providing the context provided to the people who attended the meeting. So now more stuff will leak as people, who are mildly annoyed at a misleading leak…leak themselves. Fun times!
Just get it running smooth on most phones. Everyone already has one. Worry about about official handheld later.
Win 11 is crap for desktops and handhelds.
Pretty shortsighted IMHO, they still have a shot… But then again they did the same with VR, throwing the towel too soon.
I have a handheld setup with dual boot Windows + Steam. And yes, Steam is slightly more performant in games and much less annoying to use in between games (no forced unrelated system updates, etc.).
But it’s nowhere near enough of a difference that I’d be willing to be 100% locked into Steam over it. Half my time is still spent in Windows, playing Game Pass games where the performance doesn’t matter. Game Pass does a much better job than Steam when it comes to just giving me an endless feed of new stuff to play which I wouldn’t otherwise buy. That’s enough of a selling point for me.
When I actually care about maximum fps, I play on desktop. That’s not the main use case a handheld should be concerned with competing against, IMHO.
garbage source.
Even for Jez this is a bit too much. They’re not sidelining it, it’s prob an ARM system meant for 2027, 2028 and that has its own challenges like backwards compatibility and running games on ARM meanwhile they need to make the Xbox windows a priority cause it needs to debut with Rog Ally 2 which is quickly approaching, I am guessing fall, and leave a good impression, not some half cooked shit. The 2027 handheld will run on that too. It will not be Xbox only, it will be Windows with Xbox frontend and have Steam and other things.
Didn’t know this was even in the works.
I always thought one idea behind Xbox Series S being weaker was allowing in the short term to create a new Series which would be portable and compatible with all the already existing games.
If they don’t do it, and given the recent strate changes, I don’t see a bright future for them.
They should probably work on not making Windows 11 shit.
Microsoft has been making waves for years about wanting Game Pass everywhere. Let’s see them put their money where their mouth is and release it natively on the Steamdeck
Microsoft commit to anything challenge: impossible
3rd party publisher is all they are
Are we really surprised… they are already behind SteamOS. Valve did right by mastering their store and then their OS before porting it to another device. Microsoft just tries to be everywhere and it results in mid quality on everything (console, pc, os etc…) Wait for Valve to battle for PC OS in a few years.
I never saw the point in a dedicated Xbox handheld when you can play all their games on PC/Windows and there are already plenty of those options in handheld form.
Just figure out a Game Pass app for the Switch 2 — no one could compete with that
The only way a handheld would work for Xbox is if it came with a custom version of windows that functioned just like Xbox ui and was simple for average users to understand.
Kind of like the idea they had with windows rt. It’s a tailored version of it designed to be locked down for the device it’s on.
I think no one will care because no one will buy it anyway
Are these handhelds huge or is this dude super small?
This is giving me windows phone vibes. Hopefully works out better this time.
They put it in the same bin as the VR headset that was supposed to go with the Xbox One X