Bungie bosses wanted Destiny 2 to be a subscription service. “Everything happening to Bungie is because of greed”, said a former Destiny 2 developer.
Bungie bosses wanted Destiny 2 to be a subscription service. “Everything happening to Bungie is because of greed”, said a former Destiny 2 developer.
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Shareholders and executives will never get their justifiable blame and consequences for putting developers in a chokehold and changing the environment of those respective teams for worse.
>”Everything happening to Bungie is because of greed,” said a former Destiny 2 developer, which was the focus point for many former employees. When higher-ups pitched a subscription model for Destiny 2, it was only allegedly shut down due to the staff’s “vehement” opposition. That would mean players would pay for a sub on top of other necessary subs like PS Plus, depending on your platform. Bungie’s leadership followed that up by reportedly holding a meeting where the staff were given a **”monetization scolding”** for not enabling enough microtransactions.
yikes
So many games gor fucked over by greed and executives.
So many games are now infested with battlepasses and lootboxes
Marathon is going down because there are better cheaper options. Destiny will be fine because there are similar games, like Warframe, but there are no games that offer everything that Destiny does if that is your thing.
This surprises no one. And people blamed Activision.
Besides the ‘never preorder’ rule we should also stop buying from developers/publishers that are traded at any stock market.
Considering D2 is basically just a storefront driven by fomo already I’m not surprised. Uninstalling this piece of shit was such a relief
I’m still trying to figure out who at Sony was absolutely fucking stupid enough to drop 3.6 billion dollars on a developer who has a single active IP.
>But they got them for their live service expertise!
Before someone pulls this on me, I’d like to note the wide-spread reporting that the relationship between Bungie and Sony is absolutely cancerous, and Sony trusting anything Bungie says about the state of Sony’s games is as insane as the aforementioned money spent on them.
They want me to pay them money every moth to have me do the same strikes from 10 years ago?, they have to be crazy!!! i dont even do them for free!!!
Rage bait. They pitched an idea that never went through.
That’s true of all corporations. Never put faith in one.
Gonna be hated for this one, but I’ll say it nonetheless: some of history’s most beloved and successful games were subscription based, chief among which was WoW.
That’s not to say the gaming world isn’t drenched in greedy business practices, and that it’s corrupting the spirit of games and gamers. But I think it’s fair to say “subscription, therefore greedy pigs” is a bit of an oversimplification.
Also, if we’re really honest with ourselves, how much have we spent on bullshit like cosmetics in games that are free to play, like League or CS? I’d be willing to bet that a significant portion of gamers have spent more on skins, mounts, and whatnot than on any subscription ever.
In short, I think gamers are perfectly willing to spend money on games, however that doesn’t mean we condone greedy corporate suits to squeeze it out of us. Frankly it’s quite annoying how everything of value in life is being monetised to no end.
Oh well.
Time to throw out an unpopular opinion. Done right? A subscription service with Destiny 2 wouldn’t have been a bad thing over all.
Now before you jump on me and scream about how X, Y and Z is bad. Here’s what I’m seeing, Destiny 2 is a game that right now? Has far too many things that cost money that bring it down and more so? Make it suck the big one for the new player.
You have the expansions and most of them last I saw you still have to buy separately. You have what’s the ‘main’ expansion at the moment that comes in two forms the normal edition and the super special ultra edition. You have microtransactions ranging from armor and weapon skins to… Well everything and keep in mind I’m someone that’s fine with cosmetic microtransactions but even I think Destiny 2 has gone too far with them. You have the battle pass, dungeon pass, hell you even have event passes. I’m going to put it this way, for all the crap you folks love to give games ranging from F2P shooters and the like to MMO titles that have things like that? They don’t do it nearly as bad as Destiny 2. Hell even EA is far more friendly in my eyes. My point is? Destiny 2 takes everything to an insane new level for trying to earn a buck off the players.
So why would I support a subscription? Look… You throw a sub out there that lets the player play everything up to the latest expansion, throw them an amount of silver for the Eververse store (my two cents on that is to give them 1500 if it’s a $15 dollar sub) Hell maybe throw in some kind of Eververse discount. If you make the sub worth it more so to that person who wants to pick up Destiny 2 but not pay an insane amount of money? Or even that hardcore person who will drop money on things in the game. And kids remember people do that, what was it one in four WoW players have that $80 dollar mount? Point is people will pick up the sub if they feel it’s worth it.
Granted a whole lot at least in my eyes would have to change. And while all of you may hate hearing this. If I was one of those higher up’s at Bungie? There would be part of me glad that my staff revolted at this idea. After all again I’m going to have to make the sub worth it to people for them to get it.
And I’m making far more money without it.
Fuck C suite
If you actually delivered a good game with solid content a lot of people would probably accept or even like it.
But all subscription services today always get several layers of extra payments, timegating, etc to push more spending/squeeze out more money.
Looking at WoW early years, the $12/month to get a solid complete game with continuous updates (one time purchases for expansions) etc was not a horrible thing. Couldn’t be done today though, the automatic enshittification factor is too high.
To think, Activision WASN’T the greedy snake in the relationship. Quite the shocker.
Greed
AI slop
Upvotes plz
It was obvious in how they handled content and updates that the entire company was rotten, and that the good people needed to gtfo. Doesn’t matter how passionate the devs were in creating systems and assets; they were twisted and warped and held back to gain as much money as possible through microtransactions while the game suffered. There just simply wasn’t enough content in the actual updates to justify the amount of shit that got put into Eververse; sometimes 70-80% of all assets added to the game in a given update. They (devs) literally couldn’t *make* enough content to keep up with the mtx quota and then the company tried to spin it like the **community** were the unreasonable ones demanding a constant churn of content. I wouldn’t waste spit on a Bungie executive, truly. They are rotten people that go beyond a video game.
In a way, it already is, given how little content there is to do if you don’t buy a pass for the current season/episode.