Maybe it helps to show them that it does not fit physically…
newaru2
Tell them that whatever website they want to use will be unusable.
nimbleWhimble
Make it into a grill
pimpwithoutahat
If the PC is for them then fuck it, do what they ask. Get the strongest CPU that the motherboard accepts on ebay and add in a $20 SSD. Then use the Rufus tool to install W11 and that’s it.
SquareVisible
Update the pc is not working(obviously) they have asked me to take it a hardware store and see what can be re used.
Dimo145
if you can’t convince someone that 20 years old tech is in fact not appropriate, just do whatever they ask of you.
Takeasmoke
just compare DDR2 to 1950s cars, “yeah you can make it run but it’ll eat more fuel, be inefficient and will cost more to repair if it breaks” that usually does the trick for me, even my uncle who literally only uses facebook on his PC is on DDR4 now
m70v
Tell them would you use a 20 years old phone for today daily use? I hope they say no…then tell them its the same for pcs..
Unless they really dont care then idk
kiaridragon
If the family PC is still ready to use, maybe try to “benchmark” this lil dinosaur & show them other benchmarks. Also explain that this shows the capability of the system.
Maybe also try to convince them with security standards (simple to understand most likely). Win11 is now the current OS with the highest standards and older Win OS will be infiltrated quickly with malware, which results in data loss.
Sometimes also screenshots / simple number showing can convince them. For example, my browser is currently using ~150MB of RAM. It’s running without any issues & is loading pretty fast.
I’m pretty sure this DDR2 stick is not even capable of running 1 more program when the browser is open.
Good luck with this, I know it can be rough making ppl understand why tec needs an upgrade, even tho it may can still “run”.
golder_cz
Show them a comparison chart between the fastest CPU supporting DDR2 and the slowest AM5 CPU 8400f.
Synthetic_Energy
If it uses ddr2 it’s probably about 20 years old. The very cutting edge 20 years ago, the peak performance pc couldn’t get close to the lowest end pc today. Not by a mile.
Scar1203
Is your family wanting to stick to an old PC out of ignorance or out of necessity? If it’s a matter of struggling to keep a roof over your heads and food on the table it might not be the right thing to do to pressure them into buying a new PC.
Now that I’m older I really feel bad about pressuring my mother into buying me consoles and games while she struggled to keep us housed and fed.
BlueFireBlaster
Try to install W11. Tell them w10 is about to be canceled and stop working (soft lie). You have to upgrade to W11 and you cant because the pc is old
DarthCosmo
Snap it in half
Skankhunt42FortyTwo
I’d let them find out. Build that DDR2 antique if they want it. Slap Win11 on it an let them find out how crappy it runs. If they ask for an older OS just tell them these are not available anymore.
coffeejn
Ask them if they would put diesel in a gas engine car? Tell them its the same concept except worst, it won’t fit in the slot.
turbotong
I have old DDR2 ram i have kept for this very reason. and DDR3. LOL!
I mean, old ram is great to keep your rig off the carpet…
EfficientManner7990
At least they didn’t void their warranty 🤷♂️
Wirelesscellphone
Tell them the computer they are trying to reuse was at its peak when MySpace launched.
Have them consider the change cell phones have gone through in that time. And to try imagining doing today’s tasks with those old devices. Chances are the Hardware won’t even support most of today’s requirements
SebiAUT
Throw it in the bin
AtaPlays
Tell them that it’s a fossil. Or if the budget is not a problem, build a sleeper pc. Most boomers think that it’s using ancient parts.
hurrdurrmeh
Install, let them use it, see how slow it is.
The best path is to let them gain the experience.
FedericoDAnzi
Use it, let the fucking thing break and let them be forced to use a new one.
What do you mean you need to convince them? If it’s not usable it’s not, period.
GalaxLordCZ
If you have to reuse the mobo, you also probably have to reuse the CPU, so tell them that if they want to reuse all of these things, that there’s no point to actually rebuilding the PC.
_dharwin
Personally, I’d frame this as a trust issue.
I’d basically say, “If you don’t trust my opinion on this, then I can’t help you. You’ll have to find someone else whose opinion you do trust. I don’t want to be blamed when there are issues later because you’re ignoring me now.”
Then I would refuse to help them unless they did what you want, which I assume is to give you a modest budget to acquire a more modern (but still possibly used) PC.
People are allowed to dictate the limits of the help they offer. If someone doesn’t like it, then they can ask someone else for help.
alphahakai
Just tell them that it consumes a lot of power and the your electricity bill will be super high. They normally hate paying for stuff.
Ok-Difference6796
Tell them it’s like mobile phones. Do they still use phones from 20 years ago? If they still decide not to upgrade then tell them what e-waste is.
shan506
Are your family from a cave? DDR2.?.
TankTexas
You posted a PC build last year. Are you a teenager arguing with parents? That’s what this sounds like. Either way you should price out the build versus a prebuilt and just show your parents.
87chargeleft
Does the system meet their current needs? If all they’re using it for is a web browser and email, it doesn’t take much. However, if it’s not meeting their needs, that becomes your point to explain from.
adel_877
Show then when it came out and the specs of the ram and then the windows 11 minimum ram usage and what ram it could use
D_gate
Easy answer is that windows 11 will not work with it. The OS that would have been good when this came out was EOL a decade ago and will compromise the devices on your network if you build and use it today.
abbeaird
Pretty simple. Just refuse to assist with the build if they intend to use ancient and/or incompatible parts and let them know to reach out about when they are serious about building something worthwhile
Neat-Aspect3014
forget the ram being the bottleneck… whatever its attached to is gonna be twice as worthless lol
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“If it does not fit you must acquit!”
Maybe it helps to show them that it does not fit physically…
Tell them that whatever website they want to use will be unusable.
Make it into a grill
If the PC is for them then fuck it, do what they ask. Get the strongest CPU that the motherboard accepts on ebay and add in a $20 SSD. Then use the Rufus tool to install W11 and that’s it.
Update the pc is not working(obviously) they have asked me to take it a hardware store and see what can be re used.
if you can’t convince someone that 20 years old tech is in fact not appropriate, just do whatever they ask of you.
just compare DDR2 to 1950s cars, “yeah you can make it run but it’ll eat more fuel, be inefficient and will cost more to repair if it breaks” that usually does the trick for me, even my uncle who literally only uses facebook on his PC is on DDR4 now
Tell them would you use a 20 years old phone for today daily use? I hope they say no…then tell them its the same for pcs..
Unless they really dont care then idk
If the family PC is still ready to use, maybe try to “benchmark” this lil dinosaur & show them other benchmarks. Also explain that this shows the capability of the system.
Maybe also try to convince them with security standards (simple to understand most likely). Win11 is now the current OS with the highest standards and older Win OS will be infiltrated quickly with malware, which results in data loss.
Sometimes also screenshots / simple number showing can convince them. For example, my browser is currently using ~150MB of RAM. It’s running without any issues & is loading pretty fast.
I’m pretty sure this DDR2 stick is not even capable of running 1 more program when the browser is open.
Good luck with this, I know it can be rough making ppl understand why tec needs an upgrade, even tho it may can still “run”.
Show them a comparison chart between the fastest CPU supporting DDR2 and the slowest AM5 CPU 8400f.
If it uses ddr2 it’s probably about 20 years old. The very cutting edge 20 years ago, the peak performance pc couldn’t get close to the lowest end pc today. Not by a mile.
Is your family wanting to stick to an old PC out of ignorance or out of necessity? If it’s a matter of struggling to keep a roof over your heads and food on the table it might not be the right thing to do to pressure them into buying a new PC.
Now that I’m older I really feel bad about pressuring my mother into buying me consoles and games while she struggled to keep us housed and fed.
Try to install W11. Tell them w10 is about to be canceled and stop working (soft lie). You have to upgrade to W11 and you cant because the pc is old
Snap it in half
I’d let them find out. Build that DDR2 antique if they want it. Slap Win11 on it an let them find out how crappy it runs. If they ask for an older OS just tell them these are not available anymore.
Ask them if they would put diesel in a gas engine car? Tell them its the same concept except worst, it won’t fit in the slot.
I have old DDR2 ram i have kept for this very reason. and DDR3. LOL!
https://preview.redd.it/b7rqjhur4q2f1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fde40af58b613b617b5463472cfb3d14b9154b43
I mean, old ram is great to keep your rig off the carpet…
At least they didn’t void their warranty 🤷♂️
Tell them the computer they are trying to reuse was at its peak when MySpace launched.
Have them consider the change cell phones have gone through in that time. And to try imagining doing today’s tasks with those old devices. Chances are the Hardware won’t even support most of today’s requirements
Throw it in the bin
Tell them that it’s a fossil. Or if the budget is not a problem, build a sleeper pc. Most boomers think that it’s using ancient parts.
Install, let them use it, see how slow it is.
The best path is to let them gain the experience.
Use it, let the fucking thing break and let them be forced to use a new one.
What do you mean you need to convince them? If it’s not usable it’s not, period.
If you have to reuse the mobo, you also probably have to reuse the CPU, so tell them that if they want to reuse all of these things, that there’s no point to actually rebuilding the PC.
Personally, I’d frame this as a trust issue.
I’d basically say, “If you don’t trust my opinion on this, then I can’t help you. You’ll have to find someone else whose opinion you do trust. I don’t want to be blamed when there are issues later because you’re ignoring me now.”
Then I would refuse to help them unless they did what you want, which I assume is to give you a modest budget to acquire a more modern (but still possibly used) PC.
People are allowed to dictate the limits of the help they offer. If someone doesn’t like it, then they can ask someone else for help.
Just tell them that it consumes a lot of power and the your electricity bill will be super high. They normally hate paying for stuff.
Tell them it’s like mobile phones. Do they still use phones from 20 years ago? If they still decide not to upgrade then tell them what e-waste is.
Are your family from a cave? DDR2.?.
You posted a PC build last year. Are you a teenager arguing with parents? That’s what this sounds like. Either way you should price out the build versus a prebuilt and just show your parents.
Does the system meet their current needs? If all they’re using it for is a web browser and email, it doesn’t take much. However, if it’s not meeting their needs, that becomes your point to explain from.
Show then when it came out and the specs of the ram and then the windows 11 minimum ram usage and what ram it could use
Easy answer is that windows 11 will not work with it. The OS that would have been good when this came out was EOL a decade ago and will compromise the devices on your network if you build and use it today.
Pretty simple. Just refuse to assist with the build if they intend to use ancient and/or incompatible parts and let them know to reach out about when they are serious about building something worthwhile
forget the ram being the bottleneck… whatever its attached to is gonna be twice as worthless lol