‘It’s the definition of insanity here’: The Battlefield subreddit’s good vibes nosedive into outrage after DICE announces there’ll be no class weapon restrictions in Battlefield 6
‘It’s the definition of insanity here’: The Battlefield subreddit’s good vibes nosedive into outrage after DICE announces there’ll be no class weapon restrictions in Battlefield 6
I gotta be real being that upset ab that just seems kinda ridiculous to me. The classes still have specific abilities that give you reasons to play one class over another aside from just the weapons.
Plus not to mention.
Half of battlefield players don’t even play the roll of their class to begin with anyways. Most the ppl whining ab this are probably the same ones that pick medic and stand over you while you bleed out
Blankensh1p89
Dice hasn’t learned a god damn thing as to why their games keep sucking ass
They would rather do literally anything but listen to the community.
KingZag1337
Ah s**t here we go again.
Loa_Sandal
Haven’t played since BC2 and BF3, but I always disliked that engineers were stuck with smgs and semi autos. Give me an assault rifle with a proper scope yes please.
RaNerve
More and more fans come to realize they are an increasing small minority of consumers. A loud minority, but a minority nonetheless.
DICE doesn’t care about your opinions on how amazing bad company was. They don’t care about how cool you think hardcore restrictions are, or how you think class identity is what gives the game its identity.
What they see is Gen Z consumers want access to everything and they take nothing seriously. They love cross overs and they don’t care about clown outfits in their military games. They don’t care about class identity, or hardcore mechanics, they want to just hop in, do whatever they want, and do the shoot.
And us fucking nerds who are now in their late 30s have aged out. We don’t have as much time to play anymore, to run community servers, to DO “the battlefield.”
They won’t listen to you. There is no reason to.
Mysterious-Theory713
Idk how this change will affect gameplay, but the need to change gameplay that worked well for no reason is how we got 2042. People literally just want a modern version of battlefield 3/4, that’s why battlebit blew up, but dice has just continually dropped the ball for years at this point.
Background_Ad_5796
I just hope it has hardcore mode. Unlike BFV having no official Hardcore servers
Sea_Art3391
DID THEY LEARN NOTHING FROM BF2042??? Have they taken zero consideration on WHY BF2042 flopped?? It feels like nobody over at DICE have even heard about the battlefield franchise and why it worked so well.
“Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact… same fucking thing… over and over again expecting… shit to change… That. Is. Crazy.”
duckwaltz0
So no classes then
IhateU6969
“How can we convince people to not buy our game?” – Dice, probably
PontusFrykter
The sole reason for that was the money lol. They just want to shove the cosmetics in the customers face, they don’t really care about what community wants. I guess we should expect another flop this fall.
SeppoTeppo
My initial reaction to no weapon restrictions was that it sucks. Then I thought about it some more and it really really sucks.
It was so great in older BFs that weapons and equipment didn’t need to be perfectly balanced between classes. Getting to choose a class with a dinky weapon but very strong tools was awesome. Making weapons class agnostic flattens the hell out of the possible design space.
Pockysocks
I knew Dice Sweden would fuck it up in some way.
Will the game even have a scoreboard at launch this time?
Laigerick117
It’s all so they can sell skins. Why would they want to limit someone who primarily plays Medic to only 3 primary weapons that can have paid skins when it could be ALL guns instead?
Corporate greed as usual.
ImpenetrableYeti
I miss when battlefield kept weapons specific to each nation and class
Dopa-Down_Syndrome
Am I right in assuming there’s character classes with different abilities/perks and in previous games these characters were limited by the kind of weapons they could have, like a character who specializes in grenades and technology can’t equip an LMG, and they are removing the restriction?
I’ve never played a battlefield game so I’m spitballing here.
Mechanized1
lmao.
THATS THE WHOLE POINT.
TO HAVE THAT. TO HAVE CLASSES.
THATS WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
Every game they pull this “we’re listening to fans and going back to what made battlefield great, here’s our love letter to the fans” then do the most bone-headed shit possible that is the OPPOSITE of what the fans want.
bigfuzzydog
Idk how I feel about this. On one hand I like the idea of not being stuck with only a select set of weapons on a given class. On the other hand it makes it feel less about what role you are playing and more about which class is just better with certain combinations. I have no doubt in my mind that a meta will be established day one that has a combination of things that should have been on different classes and it just outshines everything else. Then we get everyone in a lobby playing the same build and its boring. Classes need to both feel unique but not so powerful that one is just better. There should be notable strengths and weaknesses between them in order to keep a good and interesting balance. But lets be real here, were gonna have more than half the team playing with a sniper and ignoring objective. Wheres the nearest medic? Oh hes at the top of a building sniping… cool
Sintinall
> So while I might agree with the incensed masses in principle, I can’t look at the subreddit without a certain Clickhole headline coming to mind. If I’m saluting anyone, it’s the single, brave soul who posted a thread titled “Please calm down.”
That clickhole article being about the worst person you can think of, making a good point. Somehow I doubt this “worst person” the writer can think of is that one saying “please calm down”.
owShAd0w
Because the game hasn’t released yet I can’t say for certainty, but *in theory* this is not concrete. The reveal trailer hasn’t been released, the game doesn’t have a release date, it’s literally in the pre alpha stage. They are giving out this information now *for feedback* on the direction they are planning to go in. It is NOT concrete, there is 0 certainty that it will launch with no class weapon restrictions. I despise the title, as it is construed in a way, imo, to make it seem like DICE is saying there will be no changes or feedback taken and it will definitely release with no weapon restrictions.
DroopyDachi
I just want a Bad Company 3
IFGarrett
This is why I haven’t kept on the nrw Battlefield News. It’ll be another trash game. It’s not worth my time or money for sure.
Scottz0rz
I’m just going to use shotguns on every class and loadout I play, so it doesn’t matter to me.
But yeah that’s kinda weird since the meta will just quickly devolve into everyone using the same broken gun probably lol.
Strict_Original6243
Another trash battlefield who could have guessed
funnerfunerals
Holding my breath until the first meta bullshit ruins the game with the hackers right along with em
nevergonnastayaway
hot take: 2042 is pretty good tbh
ICLazeru
I want a remake of BF 2142.
arcaias
let’s be honest here… They should have just kept releasing DLC maps for battlefield 3.
I don’t play these games but I listen to people that do…
That’s what they want… even if they don’t know it.
NoBullet
A lot of the OG devs at DICE left awhile ago.
* **Lars Gustavsson** – Known as “Mr. Battlefield,” he was a creative director and one of the most influential figures behind the early *Battlefield* games.
* **Left DICE in 2022** after nearly 20 years.
* **Founded** a new studio called **TTK Games** in 2023.
* **Patrick Söderlund** – Former EA executive and DICE CEO.
* **Left in 2018** after *Battlefield V*’s troubled launch.
* **Founded** Embark Studios, which is now working on **The Finals** and **Arc Raiders**.
* **David Goldfarb** – Lead designer and writer on *Battlefield: Bad Company 2* and *Battlefield 3*.
* Left to work on *Payday 2* and then formed his own studio, **The Outsiders**.
* Released the critically praised rhythm FPS **Metal: Hellsinger** (2022).
* **Gustav Tilleby** and others – Several senior developers moved into indie studios or other large companies, including Ubisoft, Avalanche, and MachineGames.
TheDankTruth
This is just gonna make the player base lean even more into meta. You’ll only see 2 or 3 guns on the killfeed I bet. Remember how broken some of the guns first were in 2042? Now any class can/will grab the “best” preforming gun.
HSWDragon
I absolutely despise having all weapons available for every class. It funnels me into a single class and makes me play with far less weapon variation. I don’t understand how anybody at DICE could believe this is a good thing and they should continue forward
Elevator829
It’s not hard DICE. Literally just give us an updated BF4 (with a fucking server browser)and we’ll be happy.
PathlessBullet
Bait. Class restrictions on guns have always been a low IQ design decision.
mezdiguida
Honestly, I get their reasoning. Yes, classes must have precise identities and locking weapons for a specific class for sure helps achieve that, but… How many people will take classes with shitty weapons instead of taking assault class and use ARs, which will probably be the best class? This will lead to people using only classes for their weapons and not for the gadgets and what they are supposed to be used for. “But with weapons lock there will not be only one meta but more” sure, unless the braindead average player will only seek the beast weapons of all and again, ignore the class purpose.
My two cents are: it’s really not that important, and people cry and whine on that subreddit like DICE killed their mother in front of them.
skydave1012
Since Battlefield 1 (2016), it’s like they’ve been on a mission to fix something that didn’t need fixing. Which is why we got the mess of BFV & BF2042.
Why can’t they just listen.
MrLukaz
Might get hate for this but I welcome not being tied to classes. It’s a team based game and people only gave ammo to or revived their irl mates.
Krisevol
Im in one subreddit, reading a news article written on another site about a different subreddit.
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I gotta be real being that upset ab that just seems kinda ridiculous to me. The classes still have specific abilities that give you reasons to play one class over another aside from just the weapons.
Plus not to mention.
Half of battlefield players don’t even play the roll of their class to begin with anyways. Most the ppl whining ab this are probably the same ones that pick medic and stand over you while you bleed out
Dice hasn’t learned a god damn thing as to why their games keep sucking ass
They would rather do literally anything but listen to the community.
Ah s**t here we go again.
Haven’t played since BC2 and BF3, but I always disliked that engineers were stuck with smgs and semi autos. Give me an assault rifle with a proper scope yes please.
More and more fans come to realize they are an increasing small minority of consumers. A loud minority, but a minority nonetheless.
DICE doesn’t care about your opinions on how amazing bad company was. They don’t care about how cool you think hardcore restrictions are, or how you think class identity is what gives the game its identity.
What they see is Gen Z consumers want access to everything and they take nothing seriously. They love cross overs and they don’t care about clown outfits in their military games. They don’t care about class identity, or hardcore mechanics, they want to just hop in, do whatever they want, and do the shoot.
And us fucking nerds who are now in their late 30s have aged out. We don’t have as much time to play anymore, to run community servers, to DO “the battlefield.”
They won’t listen to you. There is no reason to.
Idk how this change will affect gameplay, but the need to change gameplay that worked well for no reason is how we got 2042. People literally just want a modern version of battlefield 3/4, that’s why battlebit blew up, but dice has just continually dropped the ball for years at this point.
I just hope it has hardcore mode. Unlike BFV having no official Hardcore servers
DID THEY LEARN NOTHING FROM BF2042??? Have they taken zero consideration on WHY BF2042 flopped?? It feels like nobody over at DICE have even heard about the battlefield franchise and why it worked so well.
“Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact… same fucking thing… over and over again expecting… shit to change… That. Is. Crazy.”
So no classes then
“How can we convince people to not buy our game?” – Dice, probably
The sole reason for that was the money lol. They just want to shove the cosmetics in the customers face, they don’t really care about what community wants. I guess we should expect another flop this fall.
My initial reaction to no weapon restrictions was that it sucks. Then I thought about it some more and it really really sucks.
It was so great in older BFs that weapons and equipment didn’t need to be perfectly balanced between classes. Getting to choose a class with a dinky weapon but very strong tools was awesome. Making weapons class agnostic flattens the hell out of the possible design space.
I knew Dice Sweden would fuck it up in some way.
Will the game even have a scoreboard at launch this time?
It’s all so they can sell skins. Why would they want to limit someone who primarily plays Medic to only 3 primary weapons that can have paid skins when it could be ALL guns instead?
Corporate greed as usual.
I miss when battlefield kept weapons specific to each nation and class
Am I right in assuming there’s character classes with different abilities/perks and in previous games these characters were limited by the kind of weapons they could have, like a character who specializes in grenades and technology can’t equip an LMG, and they are removing the restriction?
I’ve never played a battlefield game so I’m spitballing here.
lmao.
THATS THE WHOLE POINT.
TO HAVE THAT. TO HAVE CLASSES.
THATS WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
Every game they pull this “we’re listening to fans and going back to what made battlefield great, here’s our love letter to the fans” then do the most bone-headed shit possible that is the OPPOSITE of what the fans want.
Idk how I feel about this. On one hand I like the idea of not being stuck with only a select set of weapons on a given class. On the other hand it makes it feel less about what role you are playing and more about which class is just better with certain combinations. I have no doubt in my mind that a meta will be established day one that has a combination of things that should have been on different classes and it just outshines everything else. Then we get everyone in a lobby playing the same build and its boring. Classes need to both feel unique but not so powerful that one is just better. There should be notable strengths and weaknesses between them in order to keep a good and interesting balance. But lets be real here, were gonna have more than half the team playing with a sniper and ignoring objective. Wheres the nearest medic? Oh hes at the top of a building sniping… cool
> So while I might agree with the incensed masses in principle, I can’t look at the subreddit without a certain Clickhole headline coming to mind. If I’m saluting anyone, it’s the single, brave soul who posted a thread titled “Please calm down.”
That clickhole article being about the worst person you can think of, making a good point. Somehow I doubt this “worst person” the writer can think of is that one saying “please calm down”.
Because the game hasn’t released yet I can’t say for certainty, but *in theory* this is not concrete. The reveal trailer hasn’t been released, the game doesn’t have a release date, it’s literally in the pre alpha stage. They are giving out this information now *for feedback* on the direction they are planning to go in. It is NOT concrete, there is 0 certainty that it will launch with no class weapon restrictions. I despise the title, as it is construed in a way, imo, to make it seem like DICE is saying there will be no changes or feedback taken and it will definitely release with no weapon restrictions.
I just want a Bad Company 3
This is why I haven’t kept on the nrw Battlefield News. It’ll be another trash game. It’s not worth my time or money for sure.
I’m just going to use shotguns on every class and loadout I play, so it doesn’t matter to me.
But yeah that’s kinda weird since the meta will just quickly devolve into everyone using the same broken gun probably lol.
Another trash battlefield who could have guessed
Holding my breath until the first meta bullshit ruins the game with the hackers right along with em
hot take: 2042 is pretty good tbh
I want a remake of BF 2142.
let’s be honest here… They should have just kept releasing DLC maps for battlefield 3.
I don’t play these games but I listen to people that do…
That’s what they want… even if they don’t know it.
A lot of the OG devs at DICE left awhile ago.
* **Lars Gustavsson** – Known as “Mr. Battlefield,” he was a creative director and one of the most influential figures behind the early *Battlefield* games.
* **Left DICE in 2022** after nearly 20 years.
* **Founded** a new studio called **TTK Games** in 2023.
* **Patrick Söderlund** – Former EA executive and DICE CEO.
* **Left in 2018** after *Battlefield V*’s troubled launch.
* **Founded** Embark Studios, which is now working on **The Finals** and **Arc Raiders**.
* **David Goldfarb** – Lead designer and writer on *Battlefield: Bad Company 2* and *Battlefield 3*.
* Left to work on *Payday 2* and then formed his own studio, **The Outsiders**.
* Released the critically praised rhythm FPS **Metal: Hellsinger** (2022).
* **Gustav Tilleby** and others – Several senior developers moved into indie studios or other large companies, including Ubisoft, Avalanche, and MachineGames.
This is just gonna make the player base lean even more into meta. You’ll only see 2 or 3 guns on the killfeed I bet. Remember how broken some of the guns first were in 2042? Now any class can/will grab the “best” preforming gun.
I absolutely despise having all weapons available for every class. It funnels me into a single class and makes me play with far less weapon variation. I don’t understand how anybody at DICE could believe this is a good thing and they should continue forward
It’s not hard DICE. Literally just give us an updated BF4 (with a fucking server browser)and we’ll be happy.
Bait. Class restrictions on guns have always been a low IQ design decision.
Honestly, I get their reasoning. Yes, classes must have precise identities and locking weapons for a specific class for sure helps achieve that, but… How many people will take classes with shitty weapons instead of taking assault class and use ARs, which will probably be the best class? This will lead to people using only classes for their weapons and not for the gadgets and what they are supposed to be used for. “But with weapons lock there will not be only one meta but more” sure, unless the braindead average player will only seek the beast weapons of all and again, ignore the class purpose.
My two cents are: it’s really not that important, and people cry and whine on that subreddit like DICE killed their mother in front of them.
Since Battlefield 1 (2016), it’s like they’ve been on a mission to fix something that didn’t need fixing. Which is why we got the mess of BFV & BF2042.
Why can’t they just listen.
Might get hate for this but I welcome not being tied to classes. It’s a team based game and people only gave ammo to or revived their irl mates.
Im in one subreddit, reading a news article written on another site about a different subreddit.
…. Y’all are chronicly online.