I got the Gigabyte AERO 4070Ti and that’s a perfect blend of flow through and design.
MajinChibi1
in my experience, pny has awesome cards, which are usually pretty quiet
gwdope
I’m thinking of cutting the chevron out on my pny 5080. Its temps are fine as is, I run about 55-65c with a halfway quiet custom fan curve and a 3100Mhz OC, but poor design just makes me mad.
dendrocalamidicus
I love the big metal back plates. I hated handling old GPUs, they felt so fragile and like I should only touch the edge. Modern GPUs with their big shroud and back plate I can just pick up like a book. That’s probably partly why they did it. Less people fucking up the board by ham fisting capacitors and putting their greasy dorito fingers all over the circuit board means less people whining to them about DOA cards.
Sioscottecs23
truth
sephirothbahamut
Yeah I really wanted to go PNY but that thing of their design is just… WHY.
There’s worse reputation companies that managed to make a flowthrough design that makes sense, yet the company that makes GPUs for data centres failed so miserably, it makes no sense
Chrunchyhobo
*laughs in Dremel*
rikurikuu
Sapphire are fucking madlads. Easily the best vendor after EVGA got out of the business.
Casually shipping the best designs while working ONLY for AMD.
I don’t know how the are even breaking even at this point. Lisa Su must have covered them in gold for doing so.
razvanciuy
The backplates are ok; some put heatpads on gpu back to use it as a heatsink, but they don`t look like they were made to vent heat.
For me its useful because riser cable curves towards gpu, so it keeps it off the hot pcb. Smaller more vented backplate might be a better option.
Re-pasting & new pads every year, removing the shroud & upgrading fans that push more are the big beneficial upgrade
Area51_Spurs
The intake is on the side.
For example, from the Asus site for their board:
> The Prime RTX 5070 features a 2.5 slot design with a carefully arranged layout for the shroud, heatsink and heat pipes to let the three Axial-tech fans leverage **chassis side-panel ventilation** and deliver optimal thermal performance.
XWasTheProblem
It’s better than nothing I guess, especially if the thing is made out of plastic, but yeah it does sound a tad over the top.
My Gigabyte Eagle model has a nice, large cutout on the right side of the GPU, and the ‘side skirts’ are also truncated, giving ample room for air to get out of the heatsink. Definitely does the job – pretty quiet and temps are good.
MayaHusher
This is why my room hits 90°F during gaming sessions! 🤦♂️ Flow-through gang, where you at?
Hattix
How much flow through does a little 5070 need anyway?
It’s a power of 250 watts. I had a 2070 which went higher than that with a much smaller cooler and didn’t pass 75C on a bad day.
ComradeWeebelo
Which makes it funny there are rumors that Kingp!n might join PNY’s overclocking outfit.
The only PNY card I’ve owned gave me constant problems with signalling graphics failure to the board. The first time it’s installed on any board, it takes 3+ hours to get it working. It’s been through 3 different people and has always had this issue.
In hindsight, I should have returned it to BestBuy.
RAMChYLD
I think the latter design sacrifices cooling for card rigidity, it doubles as an anti-sag bracket of sorts.
Andulir
I love my xfx 7900xtx design. It’s simple and just an aluminum backplate.
urmamasllama
Vega 56 nano was such a good design. I really hope AMD does another hbm halo card some day
Wonderful-Lack3846
Shoutout to Powercolor (AMD) and Inno3d (Nvidia)
This generation they did a good job at making SFF cards with proper cooling
30-percentnotbanana
Got to love how the pcb on a 5090 is just some mini-itx level shit with a ridiculously large cooler.
What happened to full copper blocks? I know a good number of blower designs used them and produced great thermals for their physical footprint.
Ready-Sometime5735
Another amd W and nvidia L
SelfHangingCorpse
I’m afraid I do not understand?
Which one is better for cooling?
I got a RTX 2060 and it looks like the bottom one.
If I upgrade or make a new build, should I choose to go for one over the other?
Agree. In these “kind of” flow through models manufacturer is just wasting their own resources on useless things and same time raising product price because of “no needed” extra work. Sure its business but still its totally unnecessary.
AccomplishedNail3085
Tell that to 80% of board partners making 30 series cards
VenomShock1
Why in tarnation did Sapphire drop that design!?
SubmissiveDinosaur
I have a Phantom Gaming 5600xt that has the cut like the top one and I think seeing the cooler looks better than the entire thing being flat.
(Also ive never witnessed them going hotter than 80°, what a little beast, so sad its limited on VRAM)
msanangelo
Would be nice if they did that and had reversible fans for left handed or inverted cases where the GPU is mounted fan side up.
Lolle9999
Ye…
I “solved” mine with a dremel, removed shroud and attached my own fans.
I dunno why they wont sell it like that stock.
Would be cool if they sold cards as:
1, full flow through with not a single thing in the way for “cosmetics”, NOT ONE BAR.
2, massive heatsink, 3 slot or more.
3, no fans or just minimal ones.
4, super easy access to multiple fan headers on board.
5, no fan shroud, or just an easily removable one.
6, fan screw holes on the same place as radiators has as if its made to be replaced with your own fans anyway.
7, if possible, up tier the parts that cause coilwhine if it helps.
8, fuck cosmetics and go full uteliterian, no rgb or “cool” edgy lines/markings/edges etc.
i think they would sell loads to non teenagers and get a huge following of us with “stealth” builds.
They wouldnt need to make every gen look “cooler” each gen either since its all performance and not for looks.
LanLinked
I have a PowerColor that’s very similar to that pny, and since it’s out of warranty I’ve thought about taking a dremel to the backplate and making it truly passthrough.
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Meme? This is as true as it can get.
By getting the PCB even thinner (like a low-profile) it is possible to get more flowthrough area along the long edge.
Edit: I just realized it sounded like I’m refuting OP’s point lol. I meant something like this.
https://preview.redd.it/3how92fkxswe1.png?width=282&format=png&auto=webp&s=dd759663d0ffa0cc576221717efc3b6ea243a811
I got the Gigabyte AERO 4070Ti and that’s a perfect blend of flow through and design.
in my experience, pny has awesome cards, which are usually pretty quiet
I’m thinking of cutting the chevron out on my pny 5080. Its temps are fine as is, I run about 55-65c with a halfway quiet custom fan curve and a 3100Mhz OC, but poor design just makes me mad.
I love the big metal back plates. I hated handling old GPUs, they felt so fragile and like I should only touch the edge. Modern GPUs with their big shroud and back plate I can just pick up like a book. That’s probably partly why they did it. Less people fucking up the board by ham fisting capacitors and putting their greasy dorito fingers all over the circuit board means less people whining to them about DOA cards.
truth
Yeah I really wanted to go PNY but that thing of their design is just… WHY.
There’s worse reputation companies that managed to make a flowthrough design that makes sense, yet the company that makes GPUs for data centres failed so miserably, it makes no sense
*laughs in Dremel*
Sapphire are fucking madlads. Easily the best vendor after EVGA got out of the business.
Casually shipping the best designs while working ONLY for AMD.
I don’t know how the are even breaking even at this point. Lisa Su must have covered them in gold for doing so.
The backplates are ok; some put heatpads on gpu back to use it as a heatsink, but they don`t look like they were made to vent heat.
For me its useful because riser cable curves towards gpu, so it keeps it off the hot pcb. Smaller more vented backplate might be a better option.
Re-pasting & new pads every year, removing the shroud & upgrading fans that push more are the big beneficial upgrade
The intake is on the side.
For example, from the Asus site for their board:
> The Prime RTX 5070 features a 2.5 slot design with a carefully arranged layout for the shroud, heatsink and heat pipes to let the three Axial-tech fans leverage **chassis side-panel ventilation** and deliver optimal thermal performance.
It’s better than nothing I guess, especially if the thing is made out of plastic, but yeah it does sound a tad over the top.
My Gigabyte Eagle model has a nice, large cutout on the right side of the GPU, and the ‘side skirts’ are also truncated, giving ample room for air to get out of the heatsink. Definitely does the job – pretty quiet and temps are good.
This is why my room hits 90°F during gaming sessions! 🤦♂️ Flow-through gang, where you at?
How much flow through does a little 5070 need anyway?
It’s a power of 250 watts. I had a 2070 which went higher than that with a much smaller cooler and didn’t pass 75C on a bad day.
Which makes it funny there are rumors that Kingp!n might join PNY’s overclocking outfit.
The only PNY card I’ve owned gave me constant problems with signalling graphics failure to the board. The first time it’s installed on any board, it takes 3+ hours to get it working. It’s been through 3 different people and has always had this issue.
In hindsight, I should have returned it to BestBuy.
I think the latter design sacrifices cooling for card rigidity, it doubles as an anti-sag bracket of sorts.
I love my xfx 7900xtx design. It’s simple and just an aluminum backplate.
Vega 56 nano was such a good design. I really hope AMD does another hbm halo card some day
Shoutout to Powercolor (AMD) and Inno3d (Nvidia)
This generation they did a good job at making SFF cards with proper cooling
Got to love how the pcb on a 5090 is just some mini-itx level shit with a ridiculously large cooler.
What happened to full copper blocks? I know a good number of blower designs used them and produced great thermals for their physical footprint.
Another amd W and nvidia L
I’m afraid I do not understand?
Which one is better for cooling?
I got a RTX 2060 and it looks like the bottom one.
If I upgrade or make a new build, should I choose to go for one over the other?
Gigabyte has a pretty solid design
https://preview.redd.it/42keqm8krtwe1.jpeg?width=878&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=452ec167d171fff09213d59f6c8c430b1ce89ce3
Agree. In these “kind of” flow through models manufacturer is just wasting their own resources on useless things and same time raising product price because of “no needed” extra work. Sure its business but still its totally unnecessary.
Tell that to 80% of board partners making 30 series cards
Why in tarnation did Sapphire drop that design!?
I have a Phantom Gaming 5600xt that has the cut like the top one and I think seeing the cooler looks better than the entire thing being flat.
(Also ive never witnessed them going hotter than 80°, what a little beast, so sad its limited on VRAM)
Would be nice if they did that and had reversible fans for left handed or inverted cases where the GPU is mounted fan side up.
Ye…
I “solved” mine with a dremel, removed shroud and attached my own fans.
I dunno why they wont sell it like that stock.
Would be cool if they sold cards as:
1, full flow through with not a single thing in the way for “cosmetics”, NOT ONE BAR.
2, massive heatsink, 3 slot or more.
3, no fans or just minimal ones.
4, super easy access to multiple fan headers on board.
5, no fan shroud, or just an easily removable one.
6, fan screw holes on the same place as radiators has as if its made to be replaced with your own fans anyway.
7, if possible, up tier the parts that cause coilwhine if it helps.
8, fuck cosmetics and go full uteliterian, no rgb or “cool” edgy lines/markings/edges etc.
i think they would sell loads to non teenagers and get a huge following of us with “stealth” builds.
They wouldnt need to make every gen look “cooler” each gen either since its all performance and not for looks.
I have a PowerColor that’s very similar to that pny, and since it’s out of warranty I’ve thought about taking a dremel to the backplate and making it truly passthrough.