Oblivion setting the standard for the only reasonable way to price a remake with dlc. I hope other developers take note.
LastTourniquet
To be fair, the modding community is pretty much the sole reason Bethesda games have survived this long.. While giving the Skyblivion team free keys is an incredibly kind gesture it was also done entirely to prevent backlash from the community. Having the Oblivion Remake kind of come out of nowhere in the same year that the Skyblivion mod is set to release is almost like a slap in the face.
I think they handled it well, but your kidding yourself if you don’t think this is a PR move.
MaximumZazz
Jesus, Bethesdas PR team really struck marketing gold. Redditors are physically unable to stop reposting this.
Serahiel
they can’t, Strauss Zelnick is a Corporate Robot.
charlesbronZon
Those two companies have a fundamentally different approach to modding.
Remember: Bethesda shipped modding tools with every copy of Morrowind. Modding has always been part of the package, something they have foreseen and encouraged from the start (or at least for a very long time).
Also Bethesda is kinda relying on fans fixing their games for them 🤣
Rockstar doesn’t care for modding whatsoever.
FlameStaag
They’ve always respected modders. I think the one thing they did “bad” was try allow modders to monetize their efforts. And it was a split issue with the community. It’s not actually a bad idea given mods can be a lot of thankless work. And they abandoned the idea when the community didn’t like it.
Rockstar has never given a shit about its fans
slarkymalarkey
Do better why? As if any of you will hesitate to fork over $80-$100 for GTA 6 day one.
LarryRedBeard
It’s like folks forget Bethesda has a reputation of sticking the bug fixing on the modding community to fix. Rockstar may be twats, but Bethesda are pricks.
The_Frostweaver
Guys the skyblivion mod is still coming.
Give thanks to skyblivion for showing bethesda how much interest there was in a remaster and how high the bar for quality was.
But we should also thank bethseda for allowing modders to do their own remaster despite the fact that they knew they would be competing with it.
TuaMaeDeQuatroPatas
Not remake. Remaster
_OVERHATE_
GTA casually making more money than the entire history of bethesda game sales combined.
Games: Do better rockstar!!!
Shareholders: Dont change a damn thing!
DrummingFish
To be fair, it isn’t Rockstar going after the modders, it’s Take Two.
Sgt_FunBun
they won’t, i was there throughought GTA Online’s entire life-cycle and RDR2’s online and i can say confidently that they won’t
singleplayer mode will be solid tho for sure
Valiant_Revan
No one can tell me Rockstar cares about their consumers when they got a small studio to run most if not all of the games inthat trilogy through an AI Upscaler which lead to some terrible results. They wanted to spend as little money for max profit and tell their fans “This is the best and now only ways to play these great games”
Fathat420
Rockstar is in a position where they don’t have to do better.
The difference is that Bethesda is more than happy that their game gets mods
FrightenedPoof
They don’t, though. The truth is that all of us who like GTA are not going to vote with our wallets over this, we’re going to buy GTA 6 and it will likely continue to sell well for years to come.
Cheesetorian
I bought Skyrim day 1 (I was at midnight release, though I was the only one not wearing a costume). I haven’t played since the pandemic, but the amount of modding that has made Skyrim replayable for all these years and the fact that they were able to sell it 4-5 x is insane (I bought it at least 3x lol).
The amount of money modders have made for Bethesda FOR FREE is incredible.
Modders also made GTA a lot of money…and they used to entertain modders UNTIL GTO started printing money for them. TBF, GTA usually releases with fewer bugs, Bethesda usually releases clunky asf.
mingobrown87
Tbf gta is an online game. Mods can ruin the experience for players who dont want to use mods in online
slave-to-society
Bethesda also hired some Skyblivion contributors a while back too I believe, shows class on their part
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Damn a free key
Oblivion setting the standard for the only reasonable way to price a remake with dlc. I hope other developers take note.
To be fair, the modding community is pretty much the sole reason Bethesda games have survived this long.. While giving the Skyblivion team free keys is an incredibly kind gesture it was also done entirely to prevent backlash from the community. Having the Oblivion Remake kind of come out of nowhere in the same year that the Skyblivion mod is set to release is almost like a slap in the face.
I think they handled it well, but your kidding yourself if you don’t think this is a PR move.
Jesus, Bethesdas PR team really struck marketing gold. Redditors are physically unable to stop reposting this.
they can’t, Strauss Zelnick is a Corporate Robot.
Those two companies have a fundamentally different approach to modding.
Remember: Bethesda shipped modding tools with every copy of Morrowind. Modding has always been part of the package, something they have foreseen and encouraged from the start (or at least for a very long time).
Also Bethesda is kinda relying on fans fixing their games for them 🤣
Rockstar doesn’t care for modding whatsoever.
They’ve always respected modders. I think the one thing they did “bad” was try allow modders to monetize their efforts. And it was a split issue with the community. It’s not actually a bad idea given mods can be a lot of thankless work. And they abandoned the idea when the community didn’t like it.
Rockstar has never given a shit about its fans
Do better why? As if any of you will hesitate to fork over $80-$100 for GTA 6 day one.
It’s like folks forget Bethesda has a reputation of sticking the bug fixing on the modding community to fix. Rockstar may be twats, but Bethesda are pricks.
Guys the skyblivion mod is still coming.
Give thanks to skyblivion for showing bethesda how much interest there was in a remaster and how high the bar for quality was.
But we should also thank bethseda for allowing modders to do their own remaster despite the fact that they knew they would be competing with it.
Not remake. Remaster
GTA casually making more money than the entire history of bethesda game sales combined.
Games: Do better rockstar!!!
Shareholders: Dont change a damn thing!
To be fair, it isn’t Rockstar going after the modders, it’s Take Two.
they won’t, i was there throughought GTA Online’s entire life-cycle and RDR2’s online and i can say confidently that they won’t
singleplayer mode will be solid tho for sure
No one can tell me Rockstar cares about their consumers when they got a small studio to run most if not all of the games inthat trilogy through an AI Upscaler which lead to some terrible results. They wanted to spend as little money for max profit and tell their fans “This is the best and now only ways to play these great games”
Rockstar is in a position where they don’t have to do better.
Is it Rockstar or Take-Two?
Remember when Rockstar used to hire modders
I suspect Rockstar got their fingers burned by the Hot Coffee issue back with GTA: San Andreas [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Coffee_(minigame)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Coffee_(minigame))
La Remontada
The difference is that Bethesda is more than happy that their game gets mods
They don’t, though. The truth is that all of us who like GTA are not going to vote with our wallets over this, we’re going to buy GTA 6 and it will likely continue to sell well for years to come.
I bought Skyrim day 1 (I was at midnight release, though I was the only one not wearing a costume). I haven’t played since the pandemic, but the amount of modding that has made Skyrim replayable for all these years and the fact that they were able to sell it 4-5 x is insane (I bought it at least 3x lol).
The amount of money modders have made for Bethesda FOR FREE is incredible.
Modders also made GTA a lot of money…and they used to entertain modders UNTIL GTO started printing money for them. TBF, GTA usually releases with fewer bugs, Bethesda usually releases clunky asf.
Tbf gta is an online game. Mods can ruin the experience for players who dont want to use mods in online
Bethesda also hired some Skyblivion contributors a while back too I believe, shows class on their part
I don’t think you’ve used this meme correctly