Can we all agree that there’s no discussion about this, the single worst thing to happen to the gaming industry is the monetization which led to predatory micro transactions?
Can we all agree that there’s no discussion about this, the single worst thing to happen to the gaming industry is the monetization which led to predatory micro transactions?
Cheaters are way worse since u can always say no to microtransactions except ur braindead.
LurkyMcLurkface123
It’s gotta be cheating right. MTX I can just not buy. Unfinished games I can just not buy.
There’s nothing I can do about someone cheating.
WrongSubFools
No, of course we can’t all agree on that. The poll you posted proves we can’t.
LexTheGayOtter
People in this thread ignoring the fact that since microtransactions are the vast majority of revenue for a lot of games now the microtransactions and ways to sell them get far more developer attention than the actual game itself. Just ignoring it doesn’t solve that.
Mediocre-Magazine-30
Cheating is #1. Absolutely trashes a game.
I can just skip the transaction bs.
ThisIsMyCouchAccount
No discussion?
It’s discussed all the time around here.
RashestHippo
> Can we all agree that there’s no discussion about this
I’m not sure where you’ve been but there has been a *lot* of discussion over the years and with an increasing frequency as companies push the limits with each release.
Synthetic451
Some people here are saying cheating, but I 100% agree with you on MTX being the worst thing about the industry right now.
I can say no to microtransactions all day but I am still subjected to other players’ immersion breaking Barney barf of a skin in multiplayer lobbies. I would say I run into microtransaction bullshit 100% of the time, whereas I’ll run into cheaters maybe 5% of the time.
MTX also leads to shitty game design. Why do you think every MTX heavy game is full of grindy, repetitive fetch quests to get materials that you then use to do “research” which gives you a *chance* at getting the item that you want? It’s a shitty gameplay loop, full-stop.
XMw2k11
Microtransactions are the worst. We know it’s no good and we just restrain ourselves from buying them, but that’s not what most of the users do. Companies make them in such a way that it turns into dopamine for gamers, meaning they’re playing with your brain. No doubt, that’s malevolous if we compare it with ‘Unfinished game releases’ o every other option in that poll.
TheNamesRoodi
100% cheaters are the worst. No contest. Id much rather play CS with no cheaters than CS with no skins. How is this even a debate?
HotDogShrimp
No, I think the thing that led to this is worse. Publicly traded game companies. That’s how we got corporate garbage pushers like moder EA.
Goodums
If there was an unfinished game where you could microtransaction cheaters away, it would still sell.
InternationalLemon40
Nice trick question the real answer is 1 and 2 ofc
gitsandshiggles_
I can’t. I think unfinished game are a much bigger problem. Literally false advertising.
FlowKom
unfinished games helloooo ?!?!?!?!
Yewon_Enthusisast
I can support MTX on a FREE TO PLAY games, because that’s how they make their money back. not on a full price released. that shit disguisting
mavven2882
Playing devil’s advocate, mtx is the only thing that has prevented games from increasing in price until now. Nintendo does little to no mtx for most of their games and look at the backlash they received when they charged $80 for new Switch games. I hate predatory mtx or loot boxes/battlepass, but I also know it is optional.
Gamers seem to think that costs can increase around the world, from supply chains to cost of living, but our games should remain $60 forever. It just isn’t realistic.
Niptin
As a single player gamer, unfinished game releases are the worst. But I’d take Microtransactions as well
BeerGogglesFTW
As far as I’m concerned, the introduction of microtractions has granted me hundreds of hours into games without having to pay a dime.
It’s so much better than the old days paying $60+ for a game, and a couple hours in realizing it’s trash.
I can now realize that all the time and it doesn’t cost me anything.
Microtractions are a net positive in gaming.
Some people can’t help but indulge themselves spending $20+ a week because they need the latest shiny cosmetics and can’t help but give into the FOMO? That is no concern of mine. Be smarter. Learn from your mistakes. But they keep on doing it, and that’s everybody’s problem? It’s not.
AwesomeKalin
Personally, especially with free games, I’m fine with MTX. My problem with them is when they shove them down my throat, eg. Fortnite likes to put them in front of my face, but Minecraft: Bedrock, sure it has MTX, but it doesn’t really force it in your face. You can never click the marketplace button and never see an ad (excluding the ad that sometimes shows on launch). I have other issues with the marketplace, but it existing is not one of them
MasterBeaterr
I genuinely don’t understand this opinion. Yeah its bad but at the end of the day businesses gotta make money and its always optional unless you are playing a mobile game. So you could ALWAYS skip it. In this list, cheaters is absolutely no doubt the absolute first things that should be fixed. Any mf who doesn’t live in a padded cell should agree here. Like I said, you can ignore microtransactions, you can always not buy unfinished games, long cutscenes are usually not even something to complain about unless it’s horrendously implemented. Cheaters are the shit stain of gaming.
kn0wvuh
It’s super resolution in my opinion. It has ruined game optimization
kchuyamewtwo
better than constant ads like the mobile games rofl,but yeah. especially microtransactions promotions that cover 1/4 the screeen
unlistedname
My list is micro transactions, forcing me to be online or connected to any other players when it’s not needed, then unfinished content. I’ve quit games for all those reasons even though I’ll normally rage finish a terrible game
Bitter_Hospital_8279
I’d take macro txna over cheaters lol
McDonaldsnapkin
Idk I’m going with cheaters. I have a steam library of 350 games, and I can’t think of one that suffers from annoying micro transactions. I can think of many MP games I don’t play anymore because of cheaters though. I simply don’t have the patience for them anymore.
koordy
[ Removed by Reddit ]
W1cH099
Nah you simply don’t buy games that have abusive micro transactions but unfinished games on the other hand are like a plague
deefop
So you’d rather the games themselves be 2-3x more expensive.
Nah, dawg, miss me with that. I’ll take my cheap/discount games that are heavily funded by dumb people with no impulse control.
conceited_cape
im just gonna say it, i dont really have a problem with MTX. sure it can be annoying, but i can completely ignore it if i want. its a way for some studios to make their game more widely accessible for dirt cheap/free and still be able to have a money making product.
obviously there are exceptions, like COD making you pay $70 for entry and then skins on top of that, but even COD has free warzone for people to enjoy. nobody forces anyone to buy MTX. they can be pushed very annoyingly, but there’s always an X to close out of that menu.
i personally think half-baked, full price games are a larger plague. charging $70 for something that simply doesnt work is egregious and ridiculous. you can always wait and buy when its fixed and cheaper, but i think its just disrespectful to the customer to present the unfinished product for a premium. its like if i went into a bakery, asked for a fresh cake, and they gave me the mixing bowl with the ingredients partially blended, promising to finish it in a year when it will be amazing. any other industry and this practice would simply not fly.
long cutscenes are whatever, ive never encountered such a long unskippable cutscene that bothered me (although ive heard of like an hour like cutscene in MGS4 and i have no interest in dealing with that lol). and cheaters are annoying when i come across them, but honestly, in all my thousands hours of COD and CSGO, i dont think ive dealt with more than 20 or so cheaters, and id rate myself as decent at those games, and considering all the complaints about cheaters in those games, i would really have expected to see significantly more.
TLDR: MTX are hardly the worst plague on the gaming industry. theyre not great, but theyre way overblown as a primary problem
Alpha_Knugen
Depends on what the microtransactions are. If its just skins and shit i dont care and would rather get rid of all cheaters.
If its pay2win micro then i would rather delete that.
If i could get rid of cheaters i would choose that all day, micro transaction is your own choice if you use your money on it
henry-hoov3r
Cheaters for me. I can choose not to buy a cosmetic item. If im playing a ranked match on CS2 with a cheater in it ive got to endure that shit from 30 mins to an hour.
dr_soiledpants
People clearly purchase them which is why they’re offered. If there was no market for them they would not exist. Pretty simple. I don’t like them, so I don’t buy them. I suggest everyone who feels the same should also not buy them.
jake6501
Cheaters are ten times worse. It has never been a good thing to have cheaters in online games especially pvp. However when microtransactions are not pay to win and the game is free to play, it is an amazing way to fund the game development, keep the game alive for longer and allow everyone to play even if they can’t afford to spend money on it.
KaZaA4LiFe
Weird Valve & Gabe Newell doesnt get more hate for pioneering micro transactions than they do
MyPetEwok
Micro transactions being considered worse than cheating is a very Reddit opinion.
FlanTamarind
Exept you can not buy micro transactions. You can’t avoid cheaters.
Un_Original_Coroner
There is a massive difference between micro transactions and predatory micro transactions.
Fortnite sells cosmetics, that’s fine.
Call of Duty sold guns that did more damage, that’s not.
Halo Infinite lets you see exactly what you are buying, that’s fine.
CS:GO sells lootboxes, that’s not.
Games like Escape from Tarkov should absolutely sell cosmetics via micro transaction. You could buy the game in 2017 for $50 and still get free updates today. Seven years of content for $50? Amazing. But it’s not viable long term. If they want seven more years, the answer is cosmetics.
40 Comments
Cheaters are way worse since u can always say no to microtransactions except ur braindead.
It’s gotta be cheating right. MTX I can just not buy. Unfinished games I can just not buy.
There’s nothing I can do about someone cheating.
No, of course we can’t all agree on that. The poll you posted proves we can’t.
People in this thread ignoring the fact that since microtransactions are the vast majority of revenue for a lot of games now the microtransactions and ways to sell them get far more developer attention than the actual game itself. Just ignoring it doesn’t solve that.
Cheating is #1. Absolutely trashes a game.
I can just skip the transaction bs.
No discussion?
It’s discussed all the time around here.
> Can we all agree that there’s no discussion about this
I’m not sure where you’ve been but there has been a *lot* of discussion over the years and with an increasing frequency as companies push the limits with each release.
Some people here are saying cheating, but I 100% agree with you on MTX being the worst thing about the industry right now.
I can say no to microtransactions all day but I am still subjected to other players’ immersion breaking Barney barf of a skin in multiplayer lobbies. I would say I run into microtransaction bullshit 100% of the time, whereas I’ll run into cheaters maybe 5% of the time.
MTX also leads to shitty game design. Why do you think every MTX heavy game is full of grindy, repetitive fetch quests to get materials that you then use to do “research” which gives you a *chance* at getting the item that you want? It’s a shitty gameplay loop, full-stop.
Microtransactions are the worst. We know it’s no good and we just restrain ourselves from buying them, but that’s not what most of the users do. Companies make them in such a way that it turns into dopamine for gamers, meaning they’re playing with your brain. No doubt, that’s malevolous if we compare it with ‘Unfinished game releases’ o every other option in that poll.
100% cheaters are the worst. No contest. Id much rather play CS with no cheaters than CS with no skins. How is this even a debate?
No, I think the thing that led to this is worse. Publicly traded game companies. That’s how we got corporate garbage pushers like moder EA.
If there was an unfinished game where you could microtransaction cheaters away, it would still sell.
Nice trick question the real answer is 1 and 2 ofc
I can’t. I think unfinished game are a much bigger problem. Literally false advertising.
unfinished games helloooo ?!?!?!?!
I can support MTX on a FREE TO PLAY games, because that’s how they make their money back. not on a full price released. that shit disguisting
Playing devil’s advocate, mtx is the only thing that has prevented games from increasing in price until now. Nintendo does little to no mtx for most of their games and look at the backlash they received when they charged $80 for new Switch games. I hate predatory mtx or loot boxes/battlepass, but I also know it is optional.
Gamers seem to think that costs can increase around the world, from supply chains to cost of living, but our games should remain $60 forever. It just isn’t realistic.
As a single player gamer, unfinished game releases are the worst. But I’d take Microtransactions as well
As far as I’m concerned, the introduction of microtractions has granted me hundreds of hours into games without having to pay a dime.
It’s so much better than the old days paying $60+ for a game, and a couple hours in realizing it’s trash.
I can now realize that all the time and it doesn’t cost me anything.
Microtractions are a net positive in gaming.
Some people can’t help but indulge themselves spending $20+ a week because they need the latest shiny cosmetics and can’t help but give into the FOMO? That is no concern of mine. Be smarter. Learn from your mistakes. But they keep on doing it, and that’s everybody’s problem? It’s not.
Personally, especially with free games, I’m fine with MTX. My problem with them is when they shove them down my throat, eg. Fortnite likes to put them in front of my face, but Minecraft: Bedrock, sure it has MTX, but it doesn’t really force it in your face. You can never click the marketplace button and never see an ad (excluding the ad that sometimes shows on launch). I have other issues with the marketplace, but it existing is not one of them
I genuinely don’t understand this opinion. Yeah its bad but at the end of the day businesses gotta make money and its always optional unless you are playing a mobile game. So you could ALWAYS skip it. In this list, cheaters is absolutely no doubt the absolute first things that should be fixed. Any mf who doesn’t live in a padded cell should agree here. Like I said, you can ignore microtransactions, you can always not buy unfinished games, long cutscenes are usually not even something to complain about unless it’s horrendously implemented. Cheaters are the shit stain of gaming.
It’s super resolution in my opinion. It has ruined game optimization
better than constant ads like the mobile games rofl,but yeah. especially microtransactions promotions that cover 1/4 the screeen
My list is micro transactions, forcing me to be online or connected to any other players when it’s not needed, then unfinished content. I’ve quit games for all those reasons even though I’ll normally rage finish a terrible game
I’d take macro txna over cheaters lol
Idk I’m going with cheaters. I have a steam library of 350 games, and I can’t think of one that suffers from annoying micro transactions. I can think of many MP games I don’t play anymore because of cheaters though. I simply don’t have the patience for them anymore.
[ Removed by Reddit ]
Nah you simply don’t buy games that have abusive micro transactions but unfinished games on the other hand are like a plague
So you’d rather the games themselves be 2-3x more expensive.
Nah, dawg, miss me with that. I’ll take my cheap/discount games that are heavily funded by dumb people with no impulse control.
im just gonna say it, i dont really have a problem with MTX. sure it can be annoying, but i can completely ignore it if i want. its a way for some studios to make their game more widely accessible for dirt cheap/free and still be able to have a money making product.
obviously there are exceptions, like COD making you pay $70 for entry and then skins on top of that, but even COD has free warzone for people to enjoy. nobody forces anyone to buy MTX. they can be pushed very annoyingly, but there’s always an X to close out of that menu.
i personally think half-baked, full price games are a larger plague. charging $70 for something that simply doesnt work is egregious and ridiculous. you can always wait and buy when its fixed and cheaper, but i think its just disrespectful to the customer to present the unfinished product for a premium. its like if i went into a bakery, asked for a fresh cake, and they gave me the mixing bowl with the ingredients partially blended, promising to finish it in a year when it will be amazing. any other industry and this practice would simply not fly.
long cutscenes are whatever, ive never encountered such a long unskippable cutscene that bothered me (although ive heard of like an hour like cutscene in MGS4 and i have no interest in dealing with that lol). and cheaters are annoying when i come across them, but honestly, in all my thousands hours of COD and CSGO, i dont think ive dealt with more than 20 or so cheaters, and id rate myself as decent at those games, and considering all the complaints about cheaters in those games, i would really have expected to see significantly more.
TLDR: MTX are hardly the worst plague on the gaming industry. theyre not great, but theyre way overblown as a primary problem
Depends on what the microtransactions are. If its just skins and shit i dont care and would rather get rid of all cheaters.
If its pay2win micro then i would rather delete that.
Woah, i’d pick remove cheaters. Micro transactions isn’t *that* bad imo
If i could get rid of cheaters i would choose that all day, micro transaction is your own choice if you use your money on it
Cheaters for me. I can choose not to buy a cosmetic item. If im playing a ranked match on CS2 with a cheater in it ive got to endure that shit from 30 mins to an hour.
People clearly purchase them which is why they’re offered. If there was no market for them they would not exist. Pretty simple. I don’t like them, so I don’t buy them. I suggest everyone who feels the same should also not buy them.
Cheaters are ten times worse. It has never been a good thing to have cheaters in online games especially pvp. However when microtransactions are not pay to win and the game is free to play, it is an amazing way to fund the game development, keep the game alive for longer and allow everyone to play even if they can’t afford to spend money on it.
Weird Valve & Gabe Newell doesnt get more hate for pioneering micro transactions than they do
Micro transactions being considered worse than cheating is a very Reddit opinion.
Exept you can not buy micro transactions. You can’t avoid cheaters.
There is a massive difference between micro transactions and predatory micro transactions.
Fortnite sells cosmetics, that’s fine.
Call of Duty sold guns that did more damage, that’s not.
Halo Infinite lets you see exactly what you are buying, that’s fine.
CS:GO sells lootboxes, that’s not.
Games like Escape from Tarkov should absolutely sell cosmetics via micro transaction. You could buy the game in 2017 for $50 and still get free updates today. Seven years of content for $50? Amazing. But it’s not viable long term. If they want seven more years, the answer is cosmetics.