AI on PCs was supposed to be a game-changer for sales. So far, the effect has been quite the opposite.
AI on PCs was supposed to be a game-changer for sales. So far, the effect has been quite the opposite.
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It’s almost like no one asked for this. (Other than investors trying to recoup their AI investments)
The article is in spanish
AI has yet to take off in a meaningful way. Nobody really cares and most view it negatively as we have seen tons of businesses actually going bankrupt trying to go full on AI.
People arent buying it anymore, ‘AI’ has been nothing more than toys.
No shit, fuck ai, piss of big tech.
We did it boys
lol except it was only companies that thought this?
My gf recently replaced her laptop and to my discontentment the new one came with copilot because ofcourse it would. Shes not a super tech savvy person and doesnt really have any stigma associated to it, so it was sort of fun to see her interact with the thing, but one thing i noticed is that she often tried to use it not as a chatbot but as an assistant to her computer, sorta like siri on the iphone.
She’d type stuff as instruction for copilot to turn on a setting for example, and it quickly clicked with her that it doesnt do fuckall and is just a glorified chatgpt box, so she just unpinned it and says it sucks.
So honestly i think a lot of tech savvy people know this, and the other people are starting to realize that this AI stuff is one big marketing meme.
Honestly watching marketing fail is probably one of my biggest joys in life
What is an AI PC anyway? I built my PC in 2019 and it runs on Windows 10, but copilot just installed itself in my toolbar this week.
I keep saying this:
AI is the answer to the question that very, very few people were asking.
You mean thoughtlessly slapping ‘AI’ on the branding of every new electronic device didn’t cause everyone to spontaneously upgrade?
Quelle suprise!
Look: ChatGPT really changed how we work in our Office. We do a lot of concept work for clients but also the production of 3D animated content.
All text-based stuff usually goes through ChatGPT for Error correction and alternative wordings. But thats it.
No other AI Tool is useful in any way to improve workflows for us. The production side doesnt use AI generated geometry or textures. Concept Art is done by hand without AI. It just has no advantage.
Thats even more noticable in our private life. What AI tool really helps us in our life? What do I need something like Recall when I have a browser history? Instagram, Pinterest, etc. are so short lived that I usually forgot I saw something cool the minute I see something other that is cool. I dont need to go back 10 minutes of scrolling.
I suspect Apple is about to have the same thing happen. Consumers are not asking for this.
Now, enterprise solutions? Yeah, those are going to happen.
LLM AI seems to have largely been the same thing as blockchain tech: a specific tool with strong use cases in niche scenarios that the average end user doesn’t need. A point in AI’s favor is that the users of that tech are drastically less likely to be criminals than they were for blockchain.
But it’s not hard to see why consumer opinion is quite low on both of these techs. While being hyped as the next big thing, they failed to materialize for end users, while making life *worse* for the average person. Crypto caused the GPU shortage, hosted countless scams that saw thousands (if not millions) of people lose their shirts, and (prior to the Ethereum merge) gobbled up a mid-sized nation’s amount of electricity. LLMAI has made search engines largely unusable and cut into job markets, despite not being particularly good at the jobs it aimed to replace.
No one wants AI except bean counting investment banks in skyscrapers. The rest of us know AI will actively work to our detriment
Nobody wants ai in everything it’s not even accurate enough to let it do things on its own.
It’s also a privacy nightmare.
The problem with these PCs is that the value to the consumer is low, and the value to the company itself, in the form of the personal data it collects, is high.
I work for an AI company that’s actually been pretty successful. The main reason it’s successful is that it solves a real problem without shoving the AI aspect in customers’ faces. If the problem were being solved without ML models, the experience on the customer portal would not change.
Are the ML engineers inside the company high on their own farts, all-in on AI, and think it’ll replace 90% of the software engineers at the company in five years? Yes.
Has it done anything to replace engineers yet? Not really, the size of the engineering team has more than doubled in the past couple of years, and LLMs have been a mixed bag, enhancing certain areas of productivity, and dragging down others with everything it still gets wrong.
Probably because there’s a ton of fear being spouted about AI so people naturally people wanna avoid it.
If you compare AI to say, the internet, In terms of maturity AI is at the maybe the point where the internet was available at speeds of 33.6kbps. All new computers came with a modem and could connect, but there was not a whole lot of capability there, especially when compared to the internet 10 years later when you could get 1-2mbps cable connections, or to now where we have multi-gig fiber and every device in you home can connect and talk to each other.
People seem to think that since it didn’t play out like in Terminator 2, where the moment the machines became self-aware, they instantly became all-knowing and took over everything, it’s a failure.
There is room for an assistant software, but chatgpt isn’t it.
If I could tell my pc to open appdata, remove a program, reduce volume, move a window left or right among many other utility options I would probably use that in liue of manually navigating through setting windows/ using hotkeys.
Investors seem to think consumers have the same hard-on for AI as they do. Like they can’t help but throw money everywhere they see AI.
ChatGPT and Dalle are the first real things to get consumers excited about AI and these shitty NPUs are not close to bringing those on-device.
I actually want ai. BUT not in a cloud! And also give me a good desktop CPU with a integrated npu not just on Laptops! There is a marked for ai desktop but not for ai Laptops but they wont do it because their expensive Workstation gpus wont be bought then.
AI has always been something that ***could*** be used to enrich and improve both lives and technology, but sadly as with everything it will undoubtedly be abused by those at the top.
I know that’s not necessarily the case here but I feel that (attempts at) low key acceptance and usage throughout the general public will serve as a great primer for when it all inevitably goes to shit.
The fact that you can do everything AI through a website almost negates the need for any local AI work. The most useful tools for me have been ChatGPT for rewriting things when I just need to get my thoughts out and Google’s NotebookLM which is the most impressive use of AI that I’ve seen.
i’m really struggling to think of why ai “features” would push sales? the newest laptops are definitely great and good value many times too but ai has no impact on that one way or another.
No shit.
Pushing something that nobody really asked for can’t work. Remember Cortana in the past how much the pushed to people to use it? Who’s using now? nobody.
A good technology is adopted by people naturally without advertising or forcing them to use, that’s the only way to work. Pushing it does the opposite.
Right now for example with Recall, it done so much damage that I personally don’t bother upgrading to Windows 11 but switch to Linux.
It’s as alluring as a Facebook phone to me. All the shit I’m annoyed with and can see absolutely making it worse shoved into a device type I normally am interested in
Everyone wants a personal AI they want to own and use for everything. What they don’t want is a centralized information gatherer that they rent and have no control over.
Can anyone please tell me why people would think I need this on a PC? Google assistant did everything I wanted from “AI” before they started pulling features. This new shit is worthless.
The only real use I have for ai, which in my case is mainly ChatGPT, is as an advanced search engine. It really helps.
So for example I had a school project about sugar production. What I do is ask ChatGPT, for example, “Hey ChatGPT, could you explain to me how the crystilization of sugar works?”
Then it gives an answer. After which I ask for it’s sources. It’s not 100% foolproof, I sometimes get irrelevant, outdated or sources that arent available, but I always find something with it that I can use.
The only thing I had Microsoft’s AI do for me was tell me how I could delete it. So in that respect, it works I guess.
Thank fuck. The sooner this “AI” craze dies, the better.
It’s not that useful, while being more expensive.
People confusing generative AI with AI and being disappointed cuz they don’t know for what it is good. There are a ton of people using generative AI and enhancing their workflow like 500 % and more. Also when the first smartphones came out a lot of people didn’t know what to do with them but after a while it was irreplaceable. For some people the generative AI is also already irreplaceable.
I like that FireFox’s new translation feature translated the headline as “PC AI was going to be a revulsive for sales”. Yeah that sounds about right!
Crazy that they’re focusing on AI, instead of advertising the thousand times better battery life that comes with ARM CPUs
the first thing I do on a new OS install is fully disable the extra stuff like cortana and onedrive and telemetry, there are so many useless things that run that i wont need or ever use. This is the enshitification effect. why bother what already works by adding more useless things that your average user wont bother using, its bloat plain and simple.
At this point is you give me an AI anything feature I will pretty much want to see if there is any use to it, and if I can’t that feature is an annoyance especially if I can’t turn it off. And if I can’t I might want to shop elsewhere.
Not all AI is bad, but a lot of machine learning and programming is now being passed off as AI and a lot of it has very limited use beyond the initial 5 minutes. Itw almost like they spent on it and now need to find a use for it.