Hear me out. I have only played the game and don’t know much about the tabletop lore so if I am mistaken that is why.

I don’t think he deserves the legend status. He basically turned himself into a tank while others like V, Rogue, Blackhand, etc don’t. Yes, they use cyberware but Smasher is like 98% steel and basically a tank while the others I mentioned are good fighters and don’t put themselves in an op suit where it takes hundreds of bullets to kill you.

Is he actually good or does he just get carried by his op suit and the fact that he has high cyberware tolerance?

21 Comments

  1. Simple_Enjoyer1

    Here’s the catch: his cyberware tolerance is nothing like anyone has ever seen. He is all, ALL, chromed up because he can. Some people in NC go down as legends as a merc, fixer, rockerboy, etc. Smasher is a legend for killing a good chunk of those legends and his tolerance.

    If you’ve seen the anime, you have a better understanding of tolerance and cyberpsychosis

  2. It has little to do with skill if that’s what you’re trying to get at, but rather his ability to turn himself into 99% metal (only thing organic is his brain and the skin of his face) and not go cyberpsycho.

    This isn’t something people are generally able to do. So imo the legend status is more than deserved just because of these two things.

  3. AnchorJG

    Without the suit, Smasher is basically a angry hi-tech canopic jar. But that’s subtly the most impressive thing, because anyone else, removed from their disgusting biological weaknesses, would go mad and lose all sense of self. But not him, he endures. And just that alone, setting aside his kill count, his menacing presence, the exceptional quality of his true adversaries, the fact that he is still himself after so long and so much replacement hardware is what makes him legendary.

  4. MorenaLedovec

    he is able to endure the psychological strain of cyberware and still be himself (allbeit hes a psychopath and a killer even before his upgrades) only one that ever came close was V

  5. justmeinidaho1974

    Yall need to go check out the CP2020 material for just how bas-ass Adam Smasher truly is. As frightening as he is in Edgerunners and CP77 he’s truly MUCH more frightening in CP2020.

  6. CornFedIABoy

    It’s not a “suit”, he’s full on cyborg. There is no taking that stuff off, it’s what he is.

  7. Striking_Land_8879

    nope, he’d be dead. the suit literally keeps him alive. without it he would literally be a pod of vitals

    but i guess if he never got nuked in the face then maybe he’d still be a merc, probably still for arasaka though. if he never got booted from the military i could see him being a hansen. if his gang never broke up he’d be a royce.

    he’s basically bad man on steroids

  8. GalaxyStrong

    I don’t think he had the suit when he killed Johnny so……

  9. DiceCubed1460

    Like others have said, his legendary status comes more from the things he has done rather than just his weapons and robo-body. Like killing Silverhand, Rogue, and a bunch of their friends, killing other noteworthy people in the canon of cyberpunk history, along with tying with Morgan Blackhand in combat and surviving.

    Also he’s not in a suit. He’s literally a brain in a jar. And they keep taking that brain and putting it in more and more advanced robot bodies. Even the “face” you see here was sculpted for him to look semi-humanoid just to scare people. That’s not his original face.

    Also at one point he dated Saburo Arasaka’s granddaughter. And during that time, he wore another body that looked like Elvis but blonde. He eventually got bored and went back to murder bc he likes that mode.

  10. 5FT9_AND_BROKE

    He has a legendary addiction to upgrades.

  11. aegisasaerian

    he is a legend because he killed so many other legends or frequently tangles with them and lives to speak about it (Morgan)

    also its not an exosuit, that is just his body. take all his chrome away and he’s probably about a pound of brain matter.

  12. Adam Smasher had Zero Humanity while everybody in the 2077 universe has some type of humanity. I think even without his borged out status he’d still be a menace to be dealt with. He went toe to toe against Morgan Blackhand and he wasn’t fully cyborged there as you can see in the memory of Johnny.

  13. Lifty-Shifty

    It would be just a head it seems. Sure, you can put it in jar, that would be the extent of it, imagine all those angry alpha bubbles 😁

  14. CHEEZE_BAGS

    Read his backstory, he was a legend before he became full borg.

  15. First thing first, Smasher is using Super Experimental Sandevistan, that about 300 CC if it still follow the game logic.

    He 98% Cyborg because he gain some chrome every fight at some point his body unable to withstand all of Cyberware and on verse of C-Psycho so he dabbed and get every nick and cranny of his ‘ganic left replace it with chrome to reduce % of going Psycho and somehow it work out. Being 98% of his body is chrome so mean he become a legend for being most chrome being.

    If you recall in Johnny memory, Smasher was skip town for a few year. That was because of conflict with David somehow make his chrome overload or malfunction so he need to skip town to replace all of it.

    And Smasher not a legend in my eye, he weaker than a group of MaxTac. For some reason, in our battle with him he won’t even using full power of that Sandy maybe that was the thing that malfunction. If you see his fight with David his Sandy able to slowtimes at 95% while David just able to go 90% with the help of Arasaka Cyber Skeleton

  16. No_Needleworker_9921

    exo suit ? thats just his body bro without it he would probably look like the one scene from robocop . just a head and organs

  17. Here’s the thing, smasher was kinda fed in the head early on to the extent that having body parts replaced didnt have a psychological affect on him whish is why he was able to go so far in his crome so to answer your question, technical no, but his tolerance for cyberware is whats legendary about him

  18. FourUnderscoreExKay

    Even without the FBC, he would still be quite deadly. He has the full backing of Arasaka, and I think his current FBC is relatively new. Just about 50 years, I think. Even before he got his current body and became even more unhinged, he was still a menace to society and his 2020 stats page suggests as much.

  19. Doogie102

    How do you think he paid for all the chrome choom

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