Just a friendly reminder that even BO3 wasn't "actually zombies" in aesthetic or story to this playerbase. Pics are of backlash towards SoE and GK, which both ended up becoming fan favorites despite the fact, and rightfully so.
There's actual criticism to be had with BO6 so far, but how it's "not really zombies" just isn't it guys. You've done this same song and dance for years now. Just wait until the game drops, then be a free thinker and judge it for yourselves. It's that easy.
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It’s the eternal zombies cycle.
Shit all over the game for the entirety of its lifecycle
Next game comes out
“The previous game was actually super underappreciated and was actually incredible”
Cycle continues
No one hates zombies more than zombies players
Fully agree with this. Also though as a Bioshock lover I’m really wondering what exactly was looking like Bioshock to these people in bo3?
Fr though I fully believe the Liberty Falls hate is very premature. It looks bland now but everything cool about it was likely locked away to save surprise for launch. The map could be incredibly dynamic once things start happening. There’s very very likely areas of the map that weren’t accessible yet like the underground lab where we saw Sam in the intro cutscene. I get the complaints about the UI but that’s about it right now.
Infinity Ward didn’t invent well lit not destroyed towns. And we still have Terminus which looks incredible imo. Everyone needs to just chill and let Treyarc cook. Watch everyone come to praise Liberty Falls in so many months. If it sucks it sucks but we’ve got four more maps to come after these and I’m sure they’re seeing everyone’s reactions to Liberty Falls vibe.
New thing = bad
Old thing = good
Its like this with any game
The difference here is one wasn’t zombies because it was getting too fantastical, the other isnt zombies because it feels too much like the other cod modes
It is funny to look back on these today, but the current criticism is different and valid imo (mostly, still loads of people hating just because it’s new)
Personally Terminus looks great, and I have hope for the augments system
This isnt the point you think it is
People didnt like the THEME of the maps and later got used to them (although a LOT of people still dont like Gorod Krovi and a lot of people still arent huge fans of the Apothicons) but at least Treyarch TRIED something.
Now people dont like the LACK OF THEME. You dont ‘get used’ to no theme like you can get used to a theme you’re not used to.
I’m still gonna play it because Im not a total doom and gloom dissenter, but I can tell you that this looks like it has no soul. Its multiplayer with zombies in it, whereas Zombies used to almost be an entirely different game. At least it always felt that way until recently.
But the things people complained about in BO4 and BO3 are NOT comparable to the things they’re complaining about now. Its like saying “you shouldnt be worried you’re bleeding, the last time you were bleeding you ended up being fine” but last time I was cut by a paper cut and this time I got bit by a shark. Same result much different degree
Literally what’s so hard to understand that the sunshine and lollipops map that is Terminal Falls doesn’t fit the vibe of zombies in its 10+ years of existence?
Notice how there’s no context to these complaints. I went back to the shadows reveal trailer which is clearly what the first picture is referencing and found nothing. I also don’t know where those gorod Krovi comments came from because the video shows the end cutscene but it’s too short. The reveal trailer for gorod though is filled with positive comments. These are just cherry picked examples to fit a narrative. https://www.reddit.com/r/CODZombies/s/w2ReFNuKL8 here’s a reddit thread with context that shows how hyped the community was.
I mean it does look awful but I could be wrong could be the next best zombies we just have to wait
They don’t speak for everyone…..
Biggest L possible for the people using BO3 as their anti-BO6 shitposts. This really killed them.
Anyone with half of a brain know there’ll always be a sub-group in any fan community that just hates everything. We know to ignore them by now
That last slide is funny probably the reason I play BO3 the least even launch BO4 more often to be honest not saying it’s not good but I’m more of a WAW BO1 BO2 my guy.
I mean people were comparing it to bioshock which is a masterpiesce… Warzone not so much.
1. These few comments don’t speak for everyone, most of the zombies community were hyped for these maps (minus shadows because obviously that was a real shift from bo2)
2. Biggest difference here, people understood how good this really was afterwards
Cold War, vanguard, mwz, and most likely bo6 will forever be looked on as mediocre garbage
While SOE was polarizing a few negative comments doesn’t really prove anything. Everything has the loud minority who hates it even this subreddit is the loud minority. The views and like to dislike ratio on both of those trailers proves that.
Thing is these comments are about the vibe being too crazy or different but in a bit of a mental way, crazy different time period vibe & the enemies being ghosts. I don’t think these issues exist for people with Terminus. Generally the issue with the new maps in general is that they are too standard. Maybe people will become in love with a more grounded experience, but it’s not like some crazy alien shit to get used to.
That’s like apples to oranges people (me included) were complaining about the story in bo3 adding dragons and making a kinda grounded story with some conspiracy elements into a sci fi story which imo I didn’t care for, but bo6 the story we haven’t seen yet so idk why you’re comparing a dlc to a launch map and also bo6 problems aren’t the story but the lack of original gameplay.
Difference is people loved BO3 when it came out while 4 years later CW is still heavily criticized and BO6 is taking a similar direction.
Yeah sorry but this game won’t touch B03 lmfao.
If you cherry pick hard enough, you can find people disliking anything and everything. This isn’t proof of anything OP. You’re just cherry picking comments to suit your desired narrative. We all have eyes.
Great job cherry picking the negative comments. Your thumb must be hurting from all that scrolling huh?
Also, the complaints people have now are completely different. BO6 Zombies just feels like another Warzone Limited Time Mode.
This is actually hella true. Before and after launch soe had really mixed reception which is wild to think about nowadays given how most folks love soe
Simplicity and aesthetic aren’t mutually exclusive. We can have both. Even better, we can have both simple AND complex maps with cool themes and designs!
There’s no way you guys are cherry picking criticisms from older games. Guess what? Every single game ever gets criticized. It’s not just COD. People just don’t want Warzone mechanics in zombies. It’s that simple. Zombies used to be its own unique thing with its own identity. Warzone changed that. It’s completely valid to criticize a game before launch when there’s gameplay footage showcasing the same things people didn’t like about cold war zombies. The people who criticized BO3 actually needed to wait until launch since what they were complaining about was new features. People aren’t complaining about new features in BO6 zombies, they’re complaining about the same features that were present in cold war zombies.
let’s be real, coming from bo2; shadows of evil definitely shocked me with the margwas and parasites and i was very skeptical too but not once did i look at it and say “wow, this looks really bland” or “wow, this looks like multiplayer with zombies”
but you guys can keep posting this screenshot as if liberty falls is even comparable to shadows of evil in terms of quality
Always loved BO3 and never liked MWZ besides camo grind, Cold war always was meh to me.
They got lazy, let’s be real.
CoD fans being a free thinker and judging things for themselves challenge
Difficulty level: impossible
Nah I’m still going to buckle down that Dragons, and fucking Demons were stupid ideas.
Its more satisfying of a story that the Nazi’s tried to make experimental weaponry that they couldn’t control and created the zombie apocalypse.
Lmao at all the back pedalling
“no the complaints from back then are different”
“no I’ve always hated BO3”
“no the community is different”
The fact of the matter is simple. People have been like this since the very beginning.
BOCW is the most mechanically sound zombies we’ve ever had and I’m glad they’re sticking with it and adding more. Terminus looks great. LF looks like the new EZ to play map with a cool theme.
I’m saddened to see such cool ideas just shat on for weak reasons. We’re NEVER getting another BO3. The community shot itself in the foot during BO4. Either accept that and appreciate what we have, or move on to other games. Live and let live.
Side note: a simple map is needed for the new players. Keep gatekeeping and the mode won’t have enough people playing to justify the work put into it. If things were kept as hardcore as they were for BO3/4 then the mode would’ve died out. Full stop. We should be wanting more people to experience this mode we love! Criticism is fine but let’s not fuck around and act like all of it has been constructive. Hell it’d be more valid to say most of it has been pure vitriol.
I mean yeah tons of people left the community at this time, even MrTLexs friend group left playing zombies at this time. If people want to leave at this point too thats valid. I haven’t seen the liberty falls trailer yet but a big worry I had was that it wouldnt feel very zombies, and based on the little reaction I’ve seen it sorta seems like that’s been confirmed. A bit sad, I feel like this shouldn’t be very hard for treyarch to get right, how can a company be so out of touch with its community
If the automatic Black Ops 6 haters could read, they would be very upset!
God bless
Wtf is that second slide?
BO1 had space monkeys, an unkillable movie director and a gun that turns Zombies into babies lol. Then again he probably only played Kino and Five.
And everyone loved it.
The only thing I’m disappointed with is the mangler showing up for the 100th time.
People been posting this since BO4
tbf tho a decent chunk of people still hold the same view that bo3 ruined zombies w the alien stuff even all these years later.
i think the difference is that people were uncertain of SoE and GK because those maps did some crazy shit (lovecraftian monsters, dragons, mechs, etc), which could of ended really poorly but they pulled it off very well. people are shitting on liberty falls because it looks boring as sin, and there’s no real way to “pull that off” unless they reveal something super interesting about the map. people were unhappy during bo3 that zombies was moving towards fantasy instead of sticking with the usual gritty militaristic cod style, which is fair, but they continued with the fantastical settings and kept executing them well, so it was accepted that this is how zombies was evolving. meanwhile liberty falls looking devoid of creativity shows a lack of evolution as the maps since CW have been largely without creative/interesting settings, especially when compared to most bo1-bo4 maps. it feels like they’re moving backwards and turning zombies into a bland cod-style mode where it’s just shooting zombies in boring military bases, whereas before it was so much *more*
You’re completely missing the point. People at first were shocked by the strange direction and theme BO3 took, but at least it still had a theme and soul. Liberty falls has no new theme that people aren’t used to. It’s literally just warzone. It’s the definition of emptiness, the opposite of BO3