Hollow Knight: Silksong is “not in dev hell,” says tester who finds fan cynicism “disheartening” but agrees developer Team Cherry “should be better” at communicating
Hollow Knight: Silksong is “not in dev hell,” says tester who finds fan cynicism “disheartening” but agrees developer Team Cherry “should be better” at communicating
The first game was so overrated that I have no faith they will make improvements. Just like before you’re going to get lost with no direction on where to go leading to hours of annoying backtracking and enemies that are way too hard for a metroidvania.
TheKvothe96
They are perfect communicating. They communicate what they want, not what the players want. No Mans Sky died (and reborn after) due to players asking more to developers.
Team Cherry decided not to join the hype train, they will release the game and show new info when they fucking want. Let them do what they want.
In a not popular game, that move is bad because you want to sell more. Silksong is know enough for them.
Ok_Landscape_592
LOL surprised at fan cynicism when they announced it half a decade ago with gigantic gaps of crickets.
wolphak
Is it actually not or is this a coping fan who happens to be a tester.
Waste-Reception5297
I kind of don’t care lmao. When it’s ready it’ll be ready. And this is coming from someone who spent like 70 hours playing Hollow Knight
Finntrz
The lack of communication by team cherry in recent years has been incredibly infuriating for me as a massive fan of the first game. This secrecy will just keep building expectations that will undoubtably be disappointed when the game comes out, even if it is good
LordMacabre
I don’t really care if they find it disheartening. Their fans are doubting because of their insistence on silence. They could speak up any time, with details of why it’s been years since a playable demo was out (usually something that comes near release), or 2 years after being included in a trailer of “things releasing in the next 12 months”.
When it eventually releases, hopefully it’s great. But it seems like they have no idea themselves how close it is to release. Which is probably why they’re silent, but there really isn’t any way to spin that into a positive.
PepperoniPepperbox
I’m not buying it. Why is the only info about this from an alleged tester?
zczirak
I just don’t understand what takes this long on a frickin metroidvania lmao. Just slap that shit together and put it out already Jesus it’s not rocket science
mistcrawler
First let me say that I want Team Cherry to take their time and make the product that they want to make. But… this comment about ‘dev hell’… for once it’s on point lol.
Dev Hell, as I understand it, is what gamers use to talk about a game that has been stuck in limbo with no end in sight. Considering the game was announced with a big trailer 5? years ago and almost no updates on the game since, I think this term is actually pretty spot on lol.
Ekillaa22
Is Team Cherry still independent or did they get bought out ?
Mountain-Cycle5656
Two years ago it was showed at the Xbox showcase specifically for games coming out within one year, ie June 2023. One year later, at the last minute, it was announced it wouldn’t be coming out that June, but they’d hoped it would be. It is now one year later. Still no release date. No hint at a release window.
That doesn’t happen with development going super smooth.
ilydium
If not dev hell why dev hell shapped ?
FreshPineapple8
Silksong isnt in dev hell, it is just exploring every nook and cranny for secrets
Bog-Star
It’s vaporware at this point.
Black_Mammoth
Studios just shouldn’t announce games until they’re a year away from release. I don’t know WHY studios these days are regularly announcing games that are years away, but it only ever angers fans when they get a little hope dangled in front of their face only to get radio silence for years.
Case in point, Metroid Prime 4. Genuinely surprised to have actually seen an announcement for that game after all these years.
whoevencaresatall_
It’s wild how obsessed people are for a sequel to such a mediocre game like Hollow Knight. I guess all you need to do to earn gamer geek devotion is make your game a directionless Soulslike.
positivedownside
Question: has anyone paid anything for Silksong yet?
If not, then Team Cherry owes no one anything, up to and including basic communication.
The fucking entitlement of this franchise’s fanbase, I’m telling you.
DangerDingoDog
Oh cool this is getting posted again. Who cares what this guy says he isn’t directly involved with the dev team anyone. I don’t care that a discord mod is disheartened.
Sionnak
It’s been 5.5 years since announcement. Probably 6.5+ of development. Unless the game is better than 2 Hollow Knigths in a trenchcoat, the quality they are squeezing out vs time spent at this point must be miniscule.
Shack691
Well of course it isn’t you’ve got 3 people making the game, so it’s pretty hard for the idea to change or have to be rebooted.
DogByte64
Not in dev hell? So it’s in dev limbo?
GalaEuden
It’s likely in dev hell and Team Cherry if they really are perfectionists, might be shook at all the amazing MV’s that have come out since announcing Silksong, and are possibly trying to one up everyone and taking a long ass time in the process. HK is considered the gold standard for Metroidvania’s by a lot of people, so they have a lot of pressure to deliver especially with how long it’s taking.
birdstopher
I think it’s clear that Team Cherry has dropped the ball in a few ways when it comes to the announcement and follow up communication about Silksong. It feels a bit worse here than when it happens with other games for a few reasons. I think this is the biggest one though. The first game was crowdfunded and spread through the community via word of mouth mostly, and in my opinion, that has heightened the attachment fans feel towards these games. I’m sure if they did another Kickstarter for Silksong, it would’ve broken records. For them to make a game so clearly beloved by its fans, pretty much immediately announce a follow up, and then proceed to go radio silent for nearly 6 years? It definitely feels like a lack of, I almost want to say gratitude, towards the fans and community that love HK so much. And to see other developers of similar size easily and happily communicate with their fan base, it tends to make it feel worse when Team Cherry refuses to. With all that being said, I respect the hell out of them for what they created and only wish they cared about their fans as much as their fans care about their games.
98VoteForPedro
You cant rush art.
arom-in-the-home
Those who know graig know that this is 1000% fake news lol. His name has came up in the past before with “news” as well as him just being an ass to people.
Galactus1701
I want Silksong to be good, but it has a problem: it has taken so long that if it isn’t an absolute masterpiece, it’ll feel like a disappointment for those of us that have waited so long for it. If it is just mid, it will destroy Team Cherry’s reputation
coronetgemini
It’s been so long since I was excited about Silksong that I bet I’m no longer any good at HK mechanics.
Anubra_Khan
I honestly don’t even care anymore. I hope the game launches eventually, but the hype for Hollow Knight is gone for me. It’s been so long that the genre has had time to grow. Hollow Knight was unique when it came out, but that won’t be the case with Silksong.
Bosscharacter
Honestly,
Team Cherry has earned every bit of scrutiny with the lack of actual communication.
I know “when it’s ready” is the go to in most situations, but when Silksong started out as a part of the crowdfunding campaign, I don’t blame the backers for being even a little upset.
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The first game was so overrated that I have no faith they will make improvements. Just like before you’re going to get lost with no direction on where to go leading to hours of annoying backtracking and enemies that are way too hard for a metroidvania.
They are perfect communicating. They communicate what they want, not what the players want. No Mans Sky died (and reborn after) due to players asking more to developers.
Team Cherry decided not to join the hype train, they will release the game and show new info when they fucking want. Let them do what they want.
In a not popular game, that move is bad because you want to sell more. Silksong is know enough for them.
LOL surprised at fan cynicism when they announced it half a decade ago with gigantic gaps of crickets.
Is it actually not or is this a coping fan who happens to be a tester.
I kind of don’t care lmao. When it’s ready it’ll be ready. And this is coming from someone who spent like 70 hours playing Hollow Knight
The lack of communication by team cherry in recent years has been incredibly infuriating for me as a massive fan of the first game. This secrecy will just keep building expectations that will undoubtably be disappointed when the game comes out, even if it is good
I don’t really care if they find it disheartening. Their fans are doubting because of their insistence on silence. They could speak up any time, with details of why it’s been years since a playable demo was out (usually something that comes near release), or 2 years after being included in a trailer of “things releasing in the next 12 months”.
When it eventually releases, hopefully it’s great. But it seems like they have no idea themselves how close it is to release. Which is probably why they’re silent, but there really isn’t any way to spin that into a positive.
I’m not buying it. Why is the only info about this from an alleged tester?
I just don’t understand what takes this long on a frickin metroidvania lmao. Just slap that shit together and put it out already Jesus it’s not rocket science
First let me say that I want Team Cherry to take their time and make the product that they want to make. But… this comment about ‘dev hell’… for once it’s on point lol.
Dev Hell, as I understand it, is what gamers use to talk about a game that has been stuck in limbo with no end in sight. Considering the game was announced with a big trailer 5? years ago and almost no updates on the game since, I think this term is actually pretty spot on lol.
Is Team Cherry still independent or did they get bought out ?
Two years ago it was showed at the Xbox showcase specifically for games coming out within one year, ie June 2023. One year later, at the last minute, it was announced it wouldn’t be coming out that June, but they’d hoped it would be. It is now one year later. Still no release date. No hint at a release window.
That doesn’t happen with development going super smooth.
If not dev hell why dev hell shapped ?
Silksong isnt in dev hell, it is just exploring every nook and cranny for secrets
It’s vaporware at this point.
Studios just shouldn’t announce games until they’re a year away from release. I don’t know WHY studios these days are regularly announcing games that are years away, but it only ever angers fans when they get a little hope dangled in front of their face only to get radio silence for years.
Case in point, Metroid Prime 4. Genuinely surprised to have actually seen an announcement for that game after all these years.
It’s wild how obsessed people are for a sequel to such a mediocre game like Hollow Knight. I guess all you need to do to earn gamer geek devotion is make your game a directionless Soulslike.
Question: has anyone paid anything for Silksong yet?
If not, then Team Cherry owes no one anything, up to and including basic communication.
The fucking entitlement of this franchise’s fanbase, I’m telling you.
Oh cool this is getting posted again. Who cares what this guy says he isn’t directly involved with the dev team anyone. I don’t care that a discord mod is disheartened.
It’s been 5.5 years since announcement. Probably 6.5+ of development. Unless the game is better than 2 Hollow Knigths in a trenchcoat, the quality they are squeezing out vs time spent at this point must be miniscule.
Well of course it isn’t you’ve got 3 people making the game, so it’s pretty hard for the idea to change or have to be rebooted.
Not in dev hell? So it’s in dev limbo?
It’s likely in dev hell and Team Cherry if they really are perfectionists, might be shook at all the amazing MV’s that have come out since announcing Silksong, and are possibly trying to one up everyone and taking a long ass time in the process. HK is considered the gold standard for Metroidvania’s by a lot of people, so they have a lot of pressure to deliver especially with how long it’s taking.
I think it’s clear that Team Cherry has dropped the ball in a few ways when it comes to the announcement and follow up communication about Silksong. It feels a bit worse here than when it happens with other games for a few reasons. I think this is the biggest one though. The first game was crowdfunded and spread through the community via word of mouth mostly, and in my opinion, that has heightened the attachment fans feel towards these games. I’m sure if they did another Kickstarter for Silksong, it would’ve broken records. For them to make a game so clearly beloved by its fans, pretty much immediately announce a follow up, and then proceed to go radio silent for nearly 6 years? It definitely feels like a lack of, I almost want to say gratitude, towards the fans and community that love HK so much. And to see other developers of similar size easily and happily communicate with their fan base, it tends to make it feel worse when Team Cherry refuses to. With all that being said, I respect the hell out of them for what they created and only wish they cared about their fans as much as their fans care about their games.
You cant rush art.
Those who know graig know that this is 1000% fake news lol. His name has came up in the past before with “news” as well as him just being an ass to people.
I want Silksong to be good, but it has a problem: it has taken so long that if it isn’t an absolute masterpiece, it’ll feel like a disappointment for those of us that have waited so long for it. If it is just mid, it will destroy Team Cherry’s reputation
It’s been so long since I was excited about Silksong that I bet I’m no longer any good at HK mechanics.
I honestly don’t even care anymore. I hope the game launches eventually, but the hype for Hollow Knight is gone for me. It’s been so long that the genre has had time to grow. Hollow Knight was unique when it came out, but that won’t be the case with Silksong.
Honestly,
Team Cherry has earned every bit of scrutiny with the lack of actual communication.
I know “when it’s ready” is the go to in most situations, but when Silksong started out as a part of the crowdfunding campaign, I don’t blame the backers for being even a little upset.