All of those accolades and recognition across the industry is great, but where is their Kids Choice Award? /s
JillValentine69X
This shit is sad honestly. Microsoft should have just let Tango go independent instead of shutting the studio down because they aren’t going to do anything with the IP
bored-coder
Really want to know the reasoning behind the decision. Kill the little studio who did well so that the big sloppy studio can continue churning mediocre crap?
Odd-Collection-2575
Arkane Austin devs: “We were supposed to try?”
FenrisCain
This has been the business model for years now. Buy a studio with a strong brand or promising concept, throw money at them while they push out a successful game or two under your label. Then chuck them next time your reports are due to on paper cut costs.
It sucks but i dont get why anyone in-industry would be surprised at this point.
iNfANTcOMA
Truly fucked up and sad. What are they supposed to do? Mess up important games like Halo and still keep their jobs?
S-Markt
really, what is the problem here? find another good salesman, offer him a new gameidea, create another blockbuster and let ms or sony or ea buy you and work for them until they buy you. companies like ms only buy names, but never talent. you know the people you have been working with and what they are capable to create. the only thing you have to find is the money to start. there is so much money out there and the chances to make money are not bad, if you do not work for big company shareholders.
Technical_Prior_2017
What Microsoft actually wanted was more award-winning games from devs who don’t pitch for more staff to make their next one.
If only they had made it clear.
roshanpr
but around here everyone keeps giving Phil a pass, fuck Xbox.
daniu
I mean there really wasn’t a worse studio for them to shut down than Tango. Hifi Rush was pretty much the number one game to bring up in favor of Xbox last year. It was pretty much impossible to be disliked and felt like the refreshing alternative to AAA gaming everyone seemed to be waiting for.
JerbearCuddles
Microsoft fumbling the bag. Disassembling the team is weird. Do they plan on doing something with the IP? I doubt it. So what did they gain by doing this? I guess you can argue they prevented Sony or some other company from taking Tango in. But those devs will just find work for them anyway. They won’t make another Hi-Fi Rush but they’ll make a game just as good for them. So again, what did you achieve here? Lol. Microsoft is stupid.
Aformist
There are so many ways to distribute a game these days, that I’d much rather throw $400 at 8-10 indie games where half of them suck or never materialize, than give any more money to these ghouls.
shadowpeople
Ive worked in a related, but different field, and companies really like to build structured plans. In this case, I’m speculating that there’s a doc somewhere saying they need games that follow certain formulas, utilizing existing IPs, and are similar enough to existing games they can predict their success. Tango probably didn’t fit into the model, the execs couldn’t model how well the game would do. This is a removal of creativity and trying to replace it with data backed decisions. This is tech corporate 101, even though it rarely works.
They want guaranteed successes, and try and come up with these strategies to ensure that, but then it backfires because people like new ideas and novelty, not the same thing over and over. Shareholders don’t want to take the risk needed to try a bunch of things to find one amazing thing.
DragonMSword
They acquired activision strategy when they bought them
Mentat_-_Bashar
1 – Corner the market.
2 – Artificially decrease supply by firing talented developers.
3 – Sell overpriced dog shit.
4 – Claim a tax write off on the company you laid off and all of their projects.
5 – Profit an extra 0.001% this quarter!
ADifferentMachine
If I had to guess:
– This is all Microsoft. Spencer was overruled by Nadella, Bond, and co.
– They forced closures at Zenimax -> Bethesda studios due to Starfield being shit
My conspiracy theory: Zenimax chose to close Tango specifically to spite Xbox / MS over them being forced to lay people off knowing how bad it makes them look.
Kalenthrek
People are going in since the Kendrick/Drake Beef
dade305305
Award winning well selling games are what they are talking about and everybody knows that they just want to be cute. Game didn’t sell, studio got close. No crimes committed here.
Chris_P_Lettuce
Is there any financial evidence of hi-Fi rush performing well? I get it that Reddit liked it, but that usually means the opposite for what real world people liked.
Saiyan_Gods
It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message and control with Microsoft. It’s not about the product. It’s about control.
VLamperouge
Cook those Microsoft Frauds Tango
FallOfTheWicked
Ouch. Hope they find work fast.
Tdogshow
“Not enough?” Money? No it will NEVER be enough to satiate their greed.
cokhardt
what are the legalities behind these trophies? are they officially the legal property of whoever takes them home on award night or could microsoft be an asshole and decide to take them?
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All of those accolades and recognition across the industry is great, but where is their Kids Choice Award? /s
This shit is sad honestly. Microsoft should have just let Tango go independent instead of shutting the studio down because they aren’t going to do anything with the IP
Really want to know the reasoning behind the decision. Kill the little studio who did well so that the big sloppy studio can continue churning mediocre crap?
Arkane Austin devs: “We were supposed to try?”
This has been the business model for years now. Buy a studio with a strong brand or promising concept, throw money at them while they push out a successful game or two under your label. Then chuck them next time your reports are due to on paper cut costs.
It sucks but i dont get why anyone in-industry would be surprised at this point.
Truly fucked up and sad. What are they supposed to do? Mess up important games like Halo and still keep their jobs?
really, what is the problem here? find another good salesman, offer him a new gameidea, create another blockbuster and let ms or sony or ea buy you and work for them until they buy you. companies like ms only buy names, but never talent. you know the people you have been working with and what they are capable to create. the only thing you have to find is the money to start. there is so much money out there and the chances to make money are not bad, if you do not work for big company shareholders.
What Microsoft actually wanted was more award-winning games from devs who don’t pitch for more staff to make their next one.
If only they had made it clear.
but around here everyone keeps giving Phil a pass, fuck Xbox.
I mean there really wasn’t a worse studio for them to shut down than Tango. Hifi Rush was pretty much the number one game to bring up in favor of Xbox last year. It was pretty much impossible to be disliked and felt like the refreshing alternative to AAA gaming everyone seemed to be waiting for.
Microsoft fumbling the bag. Disassembling the team is weird. Do they plan on doing something with the IP? I doubt it. So what did they gain by doing this? I guess you can argue they prevented Sony or some other company from taking Tango in. But those devs will just find work for them anyway. They won’t make another Hi-Fi Rush but they’ll make a game just as good for them. So again, what did you achieve here? Lol. Microsoft is stupid.
There are so many ways to distribute a game these days, that I’d much rather throw $400 at 8-10 indie games where half of them suck or never materialize, than give any more money to these ghouls.
Ive worked in a related, but different field, and companies really like to build structured plans. In this case, I’m speculating that there’s a doc somewhere saying they need games that follow certain formulas, utilizing existing IPs, and are similar enough to existing games they can predict their success. Tango probably didn’t fit into the model, the execs couldn’t model how well the game would do. This is a removal of creativity and trying to replace it with data backed decisions. This is tech corporate 101, even though it rarely works.
They want guaranteed successes, and try and come up with these strategies to ensure that, but then it backfires because people like new ideas and novelty, not the same thing over and over. Shareholders don’t want to take the risk needed to try a bunch of things to find one amazing thing.
They acquired activision strategy when they bought them
1 – Corner the market.
2 – Artificially decrease supply by firing talented developers.
3 – Sell overpriced dog shit.
4 – Claim a tax write off on the company you laid off and all of their projects.
5 – Profit an extra 0.001% this quarter!
If I had to guess:
– This is all Microsoft. Spencer was overruled by Nadella, Bond, and co.
– They forced closures at Zenimax -> Bethesda studios due to Starfield being shit
My conspiracy theory: Zenimax chose to close Tango specifically to spite Xbox / MS over them being forced to lay people off knowing how bad it makes them look.
People are going in since the Kendrick/Drake Beef
Award winning well selling games are what they are talking about and everybody knows that they just want to be cute. Game didn’t sell, studio got close. No crimes committed here.
Is there any financial evidence of hi-Fi rush performing well? I get it that Reddit liked it, but that usually means the opposite for what real world people liked.
It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message and control with Microsoft. It’s not about the product. It’s about control.
Cook those Microsoft Frauds Tango
Ouch. Hope they find work fast.
“Not enough?” Money? No it will NEVER be enough to satiate their greed.
what are the legalities behind these trophies? are they officially the legal property of whoever takes them home on award night or could microsoft be an asshole and decide to take them?