Microsoft decided to use certain studios as scapegoats due to their inability to understand gamers. They failed in recuperating the investment they put into very obviously going to fail games. They knew all the risks, understood how harsh the gaming community is and ignored every warning about multiple games that are going to fail. Now studios are getting shut down and worse of all, people are losing jobs. Microsoft board members need to stop inhaling meth, jacking each other off and actually pay attention to the community.
KyleFnM
Game sucked, nobody bought it, end of story.
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OneLastSpartan
Phill and his team need to be fired. It really is that simple. They are failures.
They don’t help shareholders and they don’t help gamers. Total Failure.
Once the “savior” of Xbox now the villian.
kiptheboss
I mean, they can still make games for Japan without Tango. It’s not like Tango is delivering them crazy success for Japan’s market. You all should have bought Ghostwire Tokyo if you want them to stay open.
oswell_XIV
I’m not surprised. Latest quarterly report states that the vast, vast majority of their (XBOX’s) profit pretty much comes from the newly acquired Act-Blizz studios. Their existing studios practically made no money. You can only burn money for so long until the big bosses at MS upper division begin to breathe down your necks. Phil has also been taking a hand-off approach with their studios and it has not been producing results comparable to their competitors (Sony and Nintendo) and it’s time that heads need to roll. Hi-Fi Rush is a moderate success but the losses from Evil Within 2 and Ghostwire Tokyo had been paramount; Redfall had been a major embarrassment for them; and I haven’t heard of the other studios until announcement today. Even their big-name studios had been producing middling results (Halo Infinite, Starfield) and if their next games are not a big hit, expect more heads to roll.
a_pepper_boy
Gonna be dope when there’s only two companies left and they take turns milking us
Masterchiefx343
Everyone is shitting on phil spencer like he isnt the best thing to happen to xbox.
Id like to point out ghostwire, redfall, and evil within 2 were big losses. Good games dont always make money and the market we, as consumers, have created is one where good games dont always financially succeed and that means that studios will be closed due to the loss of money esp if they only do 1 or 2 games of which both werent financial successes
Useful_Respect3339
Again if they own the IP there’s nothing stopping them from making a sequel or spin off.
They could easily have any in house studio make the game.
FaintDeftone
Phil about to go on his podcast apology tour this week, like he always does. “I’m still cool, guys. I promise!”
ndtp124
This is the story of Xbox since at least the 360. Lots of attempts to pivot to Japan that end up getting cut in a year or two.
Deuce-Wayne
Honest question – does this circle back to Phil Spencer? Aren’t these types of moves decided by Matt booty or Microsoft?
dopedude99
Yeah Microsoft doesn’t give a rat’s ass flying fuck about gaming. That’s why clowns like Spencer are still in charge. Gaming has slowly become a drop in the bucket for Microsoft revenues, especially as the company keeps dickriding artificial intelligence and all that garbage.
smithdog223
Phil Spencer has been failing upwards for a decade plus, god knows how he still has his job.
Cryingtunes
I knew why I sold my Xbox.
They just wont last.
lostalaska
Really hoping with things like steamdeck we’ll see more games working on Linux, the only reason I still put up with Windows as a primary OS is for gaming.
Mukover
Christ this console war crap is insufferable. OP’s a straight up Sony zealot.
azzers214
Peeps – it’s really simple:
Who was buying an Xbox? I did. But then I encountered like 3 years of press telling me no one was buying Xbox and that Xbox was going away and that Playstation and Switch were having record sales all while being told how underwhelming the game selection was on PS5 by Playstation owners.
Like I think this sucks – but this is a market problem. Xbox built what people said they wanted while being pro-consumer in their decision making (operability) and people didn’t bite. If you wanted Arkane or Tango Gameworks to exist – buy the fucking console. Buy the games. You can blame Phil if it makes you happy, but he didn’t make the console buying decisions.
casualmagicman
Tango: hasn’t been able to reproduce The Evil Within 2 numbers in 7 years over 3 games
Arkane Austin: Lost 70% of its main talent, forced to develop a live service game by Bethesda that failed immediately.
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Microsoft decided to use certain studios as scapegoats due to their inability to understand gamers. They failed in recuperating the investment they put into very obviously going to fail games. They knew all the risks, understood how harsh the gaming community is and ignored every warning about multiple games that are going to fail. Now studios are getting shut down and worse of all, people are losing jobs. Microsoft board members need to stop inhaling meth, jacking each other off and actually pay attention to the community.
Game sucked, nobody bought it, end of story.
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Phill and his team need to be fired. It really is that simple. They are failures.
They don’t help shareholders and they don’t help gamers. Total Failure.
Once the “savior” of Xbox now the villian.
I mean, they can still make games for Japan without Tango. It’s not like Tango is delivering them crazy success for Japan’s market. You all should have bought Ghostwire Tokyo if you want them to stay open.
I’m not surprised. Latest quarterly report states that the vast, vast majority of their (XBOX’s) profit pretty much comes from the newly acquired Act-Blizz studios. Their existing studios practically made no money. You can only burn money for so long until the big bosses at MS upper division begin to breathe down your necks. Phil has also been taking a hand-off approach with their studios and it has not been producing results comparable to their competitors (Sony and Nintendo) and it’s time that heads need to roll. Hi-Fi Rush is a moderate success but the losses from Evil Within 2 and Ghostwire Tokyo had been paramount; Redfall had been a major embarrassment for them; and I haven’t heard of the other studios until announcement today. Even their big-name studios had been producing middling results (Halo Infinite, Starfield) and if their next games are not a big hit, expect more heads to roll.
Gonna be dope when there’s only two companies left and they take turns milking us
Everyone is shitting on phil spencer like he isnt the best thing to happen to xbox.
Id like to point out ghostwire, redfall, and evil within 2 were big losses. Good games dont always make money and the market we, as consumers, have created is one where good games dont always financially succeed and that means that studios will be closed due to the loss of money esp if they only do 1 or 2 games of which both werent financial successes
Again if they own the IP there’s nothing stopping them from making a sequel or spin off.
They could easily have any in house studio make the game.
Phil about to go on his podcast apology tour this week, like he always does. “I’m still cool, guys. I promise!”
This is the story of Xbox since at least the 360. Lots of attempts to pivot to Japan that end up getting cut in a year or two.
Honest question – does this circle back to Phil Spencer? Aren’t these types of moves decided by Matt booty or Microsoft?
Yeah Microsoft doesn’t give a rat’s ass flying fuck about gaming. That’s why clowns like Spencer are still in charge. Gaming has slowly become a drop in the bucket for Microsoft revenues, especially as the company keeps dickriding artificial intelligence and all that garbage.
Phil Spencer has been failing upwards for a decade plus, god knows how he still has his job.
I knew why I sold my Xbox.
They just wont last.
Really hoping with things like steamdeck we’ll see more games working on Linux, the only reason I still put up with Windows as a primary OS is for gaming.
Christ this console war crap is insufferable. OP’s a straight up Sony zealot.
Peeps – it’s really simple:
Who was buying an Xbox? I did. But then I encountered like 3 years of press telling me no one was buying Xbox and that Xbox was going away and that Playstation and Switch were having record sales all while being told how underwhelming the game selection was on PS5 by Playstation owners.
Like I think this sucks – but this is a market problem. Xbox built what people said they wanted while being pro-consumer in their decision making (operability) and people didn’t bite. If you wanted Arkane or Tango Gameworks to exist – buy the fucking console. Buy the games. You can blame Phil if it makes you happy, but he didn’t make the console buying decisions.
Tango: hasn’t been able to reproduce The Evil Within 2 numbers in 7 years over 3 games
Arkane Austin: Lost 70% of its main talent, forced to develop a live service game by Bethesda that failed immediately.
Roundhouse: Hasn’t developed a game in 4 years.
Alpha Dog: Was a mobile games studio.