If the thing you’re referring to is the same thing I linked, about setting power limits to 4096w (4 killowatts) then I agree.
Hutzzzpa
vendors are known for pushing power limits as a marketing tool.
this is a well documented problem.
SuperbQuiet2509
This is the truth though.
It’s good to be skeptical, but this is a case of motherboard vendors doing the most **idiotic** things. Voltages and power limits that make no sense
GrimReaper-UA
Here we go again. Motherboard manufacturers who hire more salesman and marketing managers more than actually engineers again fall into creating problems with CPU.
Buy our brand new ultrasonic ballistic armour super gamer ARGB motherboard who can deliver 1.21GW into CPU for ultra high FPS and winning games.
AMD x3D CPUs remember ASUS and little bit gigabyte and MSI, now fear comes to Intel CPU.
P.S. I love my AsRock motherboard that have correct SoC voltage from start.
Goffrier
that intel has guidelines about tdp and no motherboard manufacturer respects them
Intelligent_Job_9537
Definitely not blaming, it’s the truth that motherboard manufacturers always configure the default values too high – especially the turbo parameters – which in this case is to blame for heavy applications that utilize AVX-2 to crash.
Weaselot_III
According to a recent video from jayz $0.002, Intel kinda encourages motherboard vendors to over-clock the mobos so heavily in order to compete with AMD
Motherboard manufacturers are at fault as well but that doesn’t take the blame away from Intel. This has been going on for a long time, the motherboard settings being high. The issue is that without pulling a CPU killing amount of power, the new Intel processors are terribly weak.
SourBogBubbleBX3
Considering Gamers Nexus said the same thing…. Um yes duh?
Fit_Candidate69
Intel and AMD need to put stock settings on the box for the consumer to run if motherboard can’t set it up correctly, XMP on the CPU that locks it to the stock profile so to speak.
PC’s are getting more unstable, back a decade ago overclocking was a thing because of how underclocked all the products were, now we’ve got everything clocked to the limits when it’d be better to be downclocked slightly to save heat/power consumption.
Making it clear that we’re getting such high voltages for such a tiny improvement in performance.
I-LOVE-TURTLES666
Intel is in the right here. Unlocked PL1/2 on most monos by default is stupid
Barf_The_Mawg
Next the board makers will just blame the consumer for not configuring it properly!
Astartles
It’s like people already forgot about the X3D cache thing, where motherboard vendors didn’t give a shit about official specs.
Eshuon
Did op only see the headline and not read the article and just decided to post this here as a rage bait?
alezcoed
I think jayztwocent made a video regarding this, motherboard vendors does put everything beyond the cpu recommendation limits
But intel itself used to encourage that earlier and AMD also handles it just fine…
The fact is that most intel users are non enthusiasts and don’t really have the knowledge and they probably wouldn’t even know if cpu is running slower they hate it being overheated but enthusiasts will OC the chip themselves so it won’t matter for intel anyways
SalmonSoup15
Nvidia blames Intel blames mobo manufacturers. What a world
one_jo
As far as I heard (jays2c, I think?) the problem is that relatively often these chips can’t even handle the intel sanctioned specs.
Gh051_hehe
That’s truth tho, Intel has competition in the market, they themselves are constantly trying to make good processors and pushing their limits, if the mobo vendors push those chips which have already been pushed to max by intel itself, there will be issues to the very least
Soccera1
Considering Asus’s bullshit with X3D CPUs, I don’t doubt that it’s the truth.
liebeg
intel should make its own boards if they are so good at it
Andrewx8_88
For once, intel has actually blamed the correct people. If you look at the data, the motherboard is indeed the cause of the poor performance. Someone somewhere didn’t do their job.
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sound familiar, esp. after all the reports of AMD 3d CPUs going up in smoke, literally.
https://wccftech.com/intel-blames-motherboard-system-manufacturers-14th-13th-gen-cpu-stability-issues/
If the thing you’re referring to is the same thing I linked, about setting power limits to 4096w (4 killowatts) then I agree.
vendors are known for pushing power limits as a marketing tool.
this is a well documented problem.
This is the truth though.
It’s good to be skeptical, but this is a case of motherboard vendors doing the most **idiotic** things. Voltages and power limits that make no sense
Here we go again. Motherboard manufacturers who hire more salesman and marketing managers more than actually engineers again fall into creating problems with CPU.
Buy our brand new ultrasonic ballistic armour super gamer ARGB motherboard who can deliver 1.21GW into CPU for ultra high FPS and winning games.
AMD x3D CPUs remember ASUS and little bit gigabyte and MSI, now fear comes to Intel CPU.
P.S. I love my AsRock motherboard that have correct SoC voltage from start.
that intel has guidelines about tdp and no motherboard manufacturer respects them
Definitely not blaming, it’s the truth that motherboard manufacturers always configure the default values too high – especially the turbo parameters – which in this case is to blame for heavy applications that utilize AVX-2 to crash.
According to a recent video from jayz $0.002, Intel kinda encourages motherboard vendors to over-clock the mobos so heavily in order to compete with AMD
Edit: Link to [Jayz video ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIubZYwBfPc)
Motherboard manufacturers are at fault as well but that doesn’t take the blame away from Intel. This has been going on for a long time, the motherboard settings being high. The issue is that without pulling a CPU killing amount of power, the new Intel processors are terribly weak.
Considering Gamers Nexus said the same thing…. Um yes duh?
Intel and AMD need to put stock settings on the box for the consumer to run if motherboard can’t set it up correctly, XMP on the CPU that locks it to the stock profile so to speak.
PC’s are getting more unstable, back a decade ago overclocking was a thing because of how underclocked all the products were, now we’ve got everything clocked to the limits when it’d be better to be downclocked slightly to save heat/power consumption.
Making it clear that we’re getting such high voltages for such a tiny improvement in performance.
Intel is in the right here. Unlocked PL1/2 on most monos by default is stupid
Next the board makers will just blame the consumer for not configuring it properly!
It’s like people already forgot about the X3D cache thing, where motherboard vendors didn’t give a shit about official specs.
Did op only see the headline and not read the article and just decided to post this here as a rage bait?
I think jayztwocent made a video regarding this, motherboard vendors does put everything beyond the cpu recommendation limits
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HIubZYwBfPc
In fairness, it is MB vendors’ issue.
Yes Mobo manufacturers do push intel chips oob
But intel itself used to encourage that earlier and AMD also handles it just fine…
The fact is that most intel users are non enthusiasts and don’t really have the knowledge and they probably wouldn’t even know if cpu is running slower they hate it being overheated but enthusiasts will OC the chip themselves so it won’t matter for intel anyways
Nvidia blames Intel blames mobo manufacturers. What a world
As far as I heard (jays2c, I think?) the problem is that relatively often these chips can’t even handle the intel sanctioned specs.
That’s truth tho, Intel has competition in the market, they themselves are constantly trying to make good processors and pushing their limits, if the mobo vendors push those chips which have already been pushed to max by intel itself, there will be issues to the very least
Considering Asus’s bullshit with X3D CPUs, I don’t doubt that it’s the truth.
intel should make its own boards if they are so good at it
For once, intel has actually blamed the correct people. If you look at the data, the motherboard is indeed the cause of the poor performance. Someone somewhere didn’t do their job.