No and removing it for Dust 2 is an incredibly stupid decision. I have no clue what Valve is doing with this game anymore.
Mirage is old and its stale. Who cares if it has the most play % of any map. Does that mean its just never gonna get reworked?
And Dust 2 is much of the same. The rework did nothing to freshen up the map and now the pool has 2 incredibly stale maps instead of just 1.
yyunb
Most recent reworked map, one of the more structurally unique and complex maps, one of the maps demanding teamwork, not the least played in pro-play nor in casual play — why on earth is it out?
Worst of all it is changed with a map that is figured out to death, it has no rework in terms of aesthetic or gameplay, it is universally known as an aim-map, and we know have three sand-maps in a severely limited pool.
The pool was in a bad and stale state, and they have somehow managed to make it even worse. And it’s not gonna change in at least year, and when they change it it’s obviously not gonna be Dust out, so we’re stuck with this map for years to come. And Mirage is never going anywhere obviously, so there you have the decade-long twins of ”how the fuck are you not bored of these maps already?” continuing to plague the pool.
Next they will probably take out Nuke for Cache.
ValaranteChild
Overpass and Anubis are least played ? What could be the reason? Let me guess.
Fps dropping water in playing areas ?
Full_Cauliflower_393
It’s funny how for all the hate inferno and vertigo get, they are in the top 3 and I am pretty sure dust 2 will also be #2 or #3 in the future. But goddamn I hate dust 2 with a passion. Imagine how much of a snoozefest a BO3 with inferno, vertigo and Dust2 will be.
_Wormyy_
Map pool has sucked ever since Anubis anyways, and considering the decisions Valve has been making since basically the start of CS2 it was only going to get worse.
munchk1ng1
Whats wrong with mirage? One of the more balanced maps that people enjoy no?
ign1zz
What about 9 maps in the mappool?
KaNesDeath
As i said in the other thread. My hypothesis is that Overpass was such a low picked map for it was completely remade from the ground up in Source2 for CS2. This resulted in the average casual CS player having issues running the map at a Pc hardware level.
Like when CSGO was released in 2012. Its going to take a few years for the Pc hardware average to increase among CS2 users. Then we’ll get Overpass and Train back in the Active Duty map pool with Anubis becoming the new Dust2/Mirage.
Do you have data for regular competitive? Whenever I queued all maps I got Overpass a lot, even more than Mirage.
BattleBitGamer
Nice to post data which sort of explains why Valve did it. Anubis is simply too new of a map to remove (compared to overpass). Not sure why they want Dust 2 back in so bad, however I am fine with the change. Overpass was a little slower paced compared to Dust 2 so maybe thats why too
No_Swan_9470
Yes
azalea_k
Premier reflects the pro competition map pool, and like vetos is meant to be psychologically meaningful (random cs players doing as the pros do).
Anubis is widely popular in pro matches as a map pick, but Overpass is somewhere in the middle so still a surprise drop.
Mirage being so much played in Premier only reflects people overdoing it and not learning other maps.
Smok3dSalmon
Did the CT spawn point reductions remove the god spawn to rush lower b tunnels like a dweeb?
Last time I played this map, whoever got that spawn got to push lower B tunnels.
Now that dust2 has been removed for such a long time, I realized how little I missed the map.
Logical-Sprinkles273
Because low elo cant figure it out is a bad reason. Pro games are great on it
itamarvr46
Glad to see Vertigo doing better – such a good map – not as iconic as Nuke but def with the capacity to be there – requires IQ and isn’t traditional I love it
itamarvr46
I think Thera should be placed in – urgently! To keep things fresh and mix things up a bit
nahlgae
While I always see a lot of posts when these things come up saying Vertigo is the worst and it needs to be removed instead, I find it is a relatively popular map in premier at least in NA. Feels like the second most common map to be picked after Mirage in my own selective experience.
But I agree that Vertigo sucks and gets very not fun to play very quickly lol.
Yonebro
Should have taken another map and added train but NOOOOO. We played so much fucking train in go and cs2 Is so boring without it 🙁
UnicornOfDoom123
I never really liked overpass but I certainly dont prefer dust2.
fkiceshower
I hate op and love d2 so I’m OK with this, although d2 hasn’t really been the same since they blocked mid sightline
It feels like you have someone in lower b tunnel every other round and I didn’t really mind smoking cross on CT since b was ez to defend with only 1 smoke
OJinthebronco
no, shoulda been mirage
yowzayeet
Should remove most played not least.
Ed_Vilon
I mean the clear result should be Mirage.
It’s overplayed, hasn’t been updated in eons, and has been at every Major from CSGO to now.
derekburn
Overpass was absolute dog shit to play on in pugs, but d2 was never much better and a skeptical replacement.
thejeejee
Yes. Fuck Overpass
Impossible-Raisin-15
how is anubis so far down i swear it’s the easiest map to learn after mirage and ancient
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No and removing it for Dust 2 is an incredibly stupid decision. I have no clue what Valve is doing with this game anymore.
Mirage is old and its stale. Who cares if it has the most play % of any map. Does that mean its just never gonna get reworked?
And Dust 2 is much of the same. The rework did nothing to freshen up the map and now the pool has 2 incredibly stale maps instead of just 1.
Most recent reworked map, one of the more structurally unique and complex maps, one of the maps demanding teamwork, not the least played in pro-play nor in casual play — why on earth is it out?
Worst of all it is changed with a map that is figured out to death, it has no rework in terms of aesthetic or gameplay, it is universally known as an aim-map, and we know have three sand-maps in a severely limited pool.
The pool was in a bad and stale state, and they have somehow managed to make it even worse. And it’s not gonna change in at least year, and when they change it it’s obviously not gonna be Dust out, so we’re stuck with this map for years to come. And Mirage is never going anywhere obviously, so there you have the decade-long twins of ”how the fuck are you not bored of these maps already?” continuing to plague the pool.
Next they will probably take out Nuke for Cache.
Overpass and Anubis are least played ?
What could be the reason? Let me guess.
Fps dropping water in playing areas ?
It’s funny how for all the hate inferno and vertigo get, they are in the top 3 and I am pretty sure dust 2 will also be #2 or #3 in the future. But goddamn I hate dust 2 with a passion. Imagine how much of a snoozefest a BO3 with inferno, vertigo and Dust2 will be.
Map pool has sucked ever since Anubis anyways, and considering the decisions Valve has been making since basically the start of CS2 it was only going to get worse.
Whats wrong with mirage? One of the more balanced maps that people enjoy no?
What about 9 maps in the mappool?
As i said in the other thread. My hypothesis is that Overpass was such a low picked map for it was completely remade from the ground up in Source2 for CS2. This resulted in the average casual CS player having issues running the map at a Pc hardware level.
Like when CSGO was released in 2012. Its going to take a few years for the Pc hardware average to increase among CS2 users. Then we’ll get Overpass and Train back in the Active Duty map pool with Anubis becoming the new Dust2/Mirage.
[https://twitter.com/tabseNcs/status/1783651544539226407](https://twitter.com/tabseNcs/status/1783651544539226407)
Yes and it’s to late
Do you have data for regular competitive? Whenever I queued all maps I got Overpass a lot, even more than Mirage.
Nice to post data which sort of explains why Valve did it. Anubis is simply too new of a map to remove (compared to overpass). Not sure why they want Dust 2 back in so bad, however I am fine with the change. Overpass was a little slower paced compared to Dust 2 so maybe thats why too
Yes
Premier reflects the pro competition map pool, and like vetos is meant to be psychologically meaningful (random cs players doing as the pros do).
Anubis is widely popular in pro matches as a map pick, but Overpass is somewhere in the middle so still a surprise drop.
Mirage being so much played in Premier only reflects people overdoing it and not learning other maps.
Did the CT spawn point reductions remove the god spawn to rush lower b tunnels like a dweeb?
Last time I played this map, whoever got that spawn got to push lower B tunnels.
Now that dust2 has been removed for such a long time, I realized how little I missed the map.
Because low elo cant figure it out is a bad reason. Pro games are great on it
Glad to see Vertigo doing better – such a good map – not as iconic as Nuke but def with the capacity to be there – requires IQ and isn’t traditional
I love it
I think Thera should be placed in – urgently!
To keep things fresh and mix things up a bit
While I always see a lot of posts when these things come up saying Vertigo is the worst and it needs to be removed instead, I find it is a relatively popular map in premier at least in NA. Feels like the second most common map to be picked after Mirage in my own selective experience.
But I agree that Vertigo sucks and gets very not fun to play very quickly lol.
Should have taken another map and added train but NOOOOO. We played so much fucking train in go and cs2 Is so boring without it 🙁
I never really liked overpass but I certainly dont prefer dust2.
I hate op and love d2 so I’m OK with this, although d2 hasn’t really been the same since they blocked mid sightline
It feels like you have someone in lower b tunnel every other round and I didn’t really mind smoking cross on CT since b was ez to defend with only 1 smoke
no, shoulda been mirage
Should remove most played not least.
I mean the clear result should be Mirage.
It’s overplayed, hasn’t been updated in eons, and has been at every Major from CSGO to now.
Overpass was absolute dog shit to play on in pugs, but d2 was never much better and a skeptical replacement.
Yes. Fuck Overpass
how is anubis so far down i swear it’s the easiest map to learn after mirage and ancient