In 2024 30 fps should not be acceptable. Fuckin games from the 2000s were playing at 60fps. Enough with this games need to look like real life, if a game runs like shit, it could look as real as life, and it’ll still look like shit, because it runs like shit.
A 500 dollar console barely able to get 30fps is insulting.
Raven_of_Blades
Pretty lame that this is turning into the new norm. It was acceptable last gen because the consoles launched so pathetically weak out of the gate. I guess the smart thing to do right now would be to sell our PS5s on facebook marketplace or ebay or something and put that money towards the pro version when it comes out. A lot of people only got their PS5s within the last few years because of the rarity so this is a big kick in the teeth.
Cactart
Only way we’re ever getting consistent 60fps is if games stop evolving entirely. New gens don’t just bring prettier graphics but include better ai and systems that enhance gameplay. That’s why the only locked 60fps games you’re seeing are last gen remasters.
Also this rediculous push for higher resolutions is making the situation much worse.
Shehzman
Not sure why people are getting downvoted. 60fps should very much be the standard, even if it’s just an option. I would much rather have a 60fps option with lower visual fidelity than 30fps being the only option.
Psy_Kikk
Guys, I played Wipeout HD on the ps3 at 1080p 60fps.
It’s all marketting spiel – you need to start thinking like PC gamers, as that is what modern consoles are. **The new PS5 pro is capable of 16k at 240fps…** *(but you’re playing PONG).*
If you are genuinely keen on 60fps becoming the standard for consoles (and not just for fighting/racing games) you are going to have to keep on banging that drum, loudly…and never stop. Because marketting is **always** going to want to push the prettier game for screenshots and trailers.
resist-corporate-88
Anything less than 60fps isn’t worth my time. It’s 2024. 60fps should be the minimum. That’s why I probably won’t go back to consoles.
jntjr2005
Games can’t even hit 60 now and you’re telling me with a pro they might not either? How are we going backwards lmao. I’ll settle for not buying a pro, I just barely got my ps5 2 years ago.
QuinSanguine
It’ll have to be happy to settle because some games like Plague Tale Requiem or require high powered cpus when using rt or other expensive settings.
Cpu bound games will look better on the ps5 pro but they won’t run better.
hullkogan
Judging by the battery life and ergonomics of the dual sense controller, it’s very obvious that they are willing to settle for less on some things.
Fire_Lord_Cinder
Idk why gamers are so overwhelmingly negative in this subreddit. They’re apparently providing up to 40% GPU performance, up to 10% CPU performance, and their own upscaling tech. If you’re getting 1440p with upscaling to 4K at 60fps then it will look great. A lot of games on the PS5 already look good with upscaling at 60 fps, so there will be a definite visual improvement in the performance mode.
aspectralfire
Give me 60fps bloodborne already!
Consistent-Goal-2508
If PS5 pro don’t do 60 fps,they can always make PS5 pro+
Consistent-Goal-2508
30 fps is an insult and not acceptable
chocolateNacho39
Devs will just put out 8K30, they don’t care
TillI_Collapse
This article can be simply summarized by saying “developers that don’t enhance their games for PS5 Pro will not have their games be labeled as such”.
There is no emotion or happiness being conveyed, they provide more power for developers to use as they like.
Pretty much every game for PS5 has an option for 60fps. A PS5 Pro will stabilize those games and have the potential drastically increase resolution and image quality for games.
Meaning it eliminates having to choose between 60fps with lower image quality and 30fps with greater image quality.
It will offer both…
If you do not care about any of that you can simply skip the console and continue using a standard PS5.
Dyyrin
Crazy that 60fps isn’t the standard in 2024 for consoles.
Strategery_0820
Then why does the ps5 pro even need to exist?
ChuggsTheBrewGod
We don’t need a PS5 refresh. The technology just isn’t there to justify it.
DicJacobus
30fps in an age that PC and other capable hardware has attained 75, 90, 144 as a new normal (and it can go even higher) is pathetic.
People aren’t asking for 144, 200 hertz.
They’re asking for 60. even 50.
30fps actually makes me naseous on anything except for top down / RTS style games now.
Im not even going to bother with a PS5 Pro. if GTA6 only runs 30, I will play it on the base system, im not going to try to squeeze performance out of platform thats already anchored itself to obsolesence.
Old_Bank_6430
The standard should always 60 FPS full stop.
skydave1012
What games?
immortality20
60fps is the biggest lie of the generation. Hell this generation feels marginally, the smallest bit, better than last.
mxthodman
I was hoping to upgrade to a pa5 pro later this year but this is just making me think I should buy a higher performance PC
PM_ME_SEXY_PAULDRONS
I’ve seen the two latest final fantasy games, they’ll fuckin settle for anything.
FredFredrickson
I still don’t understand the “pro” label for a game console.
Amazingcamaro
30fps on console is the gold standard. Then they can make the graphics better.
Spideyman20015
WHAT THE FUCK AM I PAYING FOR
Pavis0047
I understand if a console is your only option…. but people that buy consoles expecting a “pro” experience are always going to be let down 100%..
All console games are made for the previous generation because thats a huge cash camel…. your never going to use the power of your console as every current generation will always be held back by the previous gen.
rektMyself
Yup! Came at me in PC with 320htz. Why can’t we play games them?!
🤣
SectsHaver
Man I remember 60fps days… almost like aol nostalgia feel.
Logondo
Am I crazy but I thought the whole point of next-gen consoles was to have 60FPS.
Isn’t what the PS5 and XSX advertised as having?
funnerfunerals
I stopped getting consoles a long time ago simply because I couldn’t trust games to be 60 fps. I literally can’t play any game otherwise.
Seatown_Spartan
This was made for the sole reason/will sell like hotcakes riding off the GTA6 hype.
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In 2024 30 fps should not be acceptable. Fuckin games from the 2000s were playing at 60fps. Enough with this games need to look like real life, if a game runs like shit, it could look as real as life, and it’ll still look like shit, because it runs like shit.
A 500 dollar console barely able to get 30fps is insulting.
Pretty lame that this is turning into the new norm. It was acceptable last gen because the consoles launched so pathetically weak out of the gate. I guess the smart thing to do right now would be to sell our PS5s on facebook marketplace or ebay or something and put that money towards the pro version when it comes out. A lot of people only got their PS5s within the last few years because of the rarity so this is a big kick in the teeth.
Only way we’re ever getting consistent 60fps is if games stop evolving entirely. New gens don’t just bring prettier graphics but include better ai and systems that enhance gameplay. That’s why the only locked 60fps games you’re seeing are last gen remasters.
Also this rediculous push for higher resolutions is making the situation much worse.
Not sure why people are getting downvoted. 60fps should very much be the standard, even if it’s just an option. I would much rather have a 60fps option with lower visual fidelity than 30fps being the only option.
Guys, I played Wipeout HD on the ps3 at 1080p 60fps.
It’s all marketting spiel – you need to start thinking like PC gamers, as that is what modern consoles are. **The new PS5 pro is capable of 16k at 240fps…** *(but you’re playing PONG).*
If you are genuinely keen on 60fps becoming the standard for consoles (and not just for fighting/racing games) you are going to have to keep on banging that drum, loudly…and never stop. Because marketting is **always** going to want to push the prettier game for screenshots and trailers.
Anything less than 60fps isn’t worth my time. It’s 2024. 60fps should be the minimum. That’s why I probably won’t go back to consoles.
Games can’t even hit 60 now and you’re telling me with a pro they might not either? How are we going backwards lmao. I’ll settle for not buying a pro, I just barely got my ps5 2 years ago.
It’ll have to be happy to settle because some games like Plague Tale Requiem or require high powered cpus when using rt or other expensive settings.
Cpu bound games will look better on the ps5 pro but they won’t run better.
Judging by the battery life and ergonomics of the dual sense controller, it’s very obvious that they are willing to settle for less on some things.
Idk why gamers are so overwhelmingly negative in this subreddit. They’re apparently providing up to 40% GPU performance, up to 10% CPU performance, and their own upscaling tech. If you’re getting 1440p with upscaling to 4K at 60fps then it will look great. A lot of games on the PS5 already look good with upscaling at 60 fps, so there will be a definite visual improvement in the performance mode.
Give me 60fps bloodborne already!
If PS5 pro don’t do 60 fps,they can always make PS5 pro+
30 fps is an insult and not acceptable
Devs will just put out 8K30, they don’t care
This article can be simply summarized by saying “developers that don’t enhance their games for PS5 Pro will not have their games be labeled as such”.
There is no emotion or happiness being conveyed, they provide more power for developers to use as they like.
Pretty much every game for PS5 has an option for 60fps. A PS5 Pro will stabilize those games and have the potential drastically increase resolution and image quality for games.
Meaning it eliminates having to choose between 60fps with lower image quality and 30fps with greater image quality.
It will offer both…
If you do not care about any of that you can simply skip the console and continue using a standard PS5.
Crazy that 60fps isn’t the standard in 2024 for consoles.
Then why does the ps5 pro even need to exist?
We don’t need a PS5 refresh. The technology just isn’t there to justify it.
30fps in an age that PC and other capable hardware has attained 75, 90, 144 as a new normal (and it can go even higher) is pathetic.
People aren’t asking for 144, 200 hertz.
They’re asking for 60. even 50.
30fps actually makes me naseous on anything except for top down / RTS style games now.
Im not even going to bother with a PS5 Pro. if GTA6 only runs 30, I will play it on the base system, im not going to try to squeeze performance out of platform thats already anchored itself to obsolesence.
The standard should always 60 FPS full stop.
What games?
60fps is the biggest lie of the generation. Hell this generation feels marginally, the smallest bit, better than last.
I was hoping to upgrade to a pa5 pro later this year but this is just making me think I should buy a higher performance PC
I’ve seen the two latest final fantasy games, they’ll fuckin settle for anything.
I still don’t understand the “pro” label for a game console.
30fps on console is the gold standard. Then they can make the graphics better.
WHAT THE FUCK AM I PAYING FOR
I understand if a console is your only option…. but people that buy consoles expecting a “pro” experience are always going to be let down 100%..
All console games are made for the previous generation because thats a huge cash camel…. your never going to use the power of your console as every current generation will always be held back by the previous gen.
Yup! Came at me in PC with 320htz. Why can’t we play games them?!
🤣
Man I remember 60fps days… almost like aol nostalgia feel.
Am I crazy but I thought the whole point of next-gen consoles was to have 60FPS.
Isn’t what the PS5 and XSX advertised as having?
I stopped getting consoles a long time ago simply because I couldn’t trust games to be 60 fps. I literally can’t play any game otherwise.
This was made for the sole reason/will sell like hotcakes riding off the GTA6 hype.