What is this a acer nitro or something. Optane is just used as cache, At least for consumer platforms.
Illustrious-Sir7555
If it is intel optane (16/32gb), I think you are combine it with 1Tb hdd and using it as a hybrid disk
Remmes-
Optane, meaning it has fast cache (for frequently used stuff) but once that’s full and it needs to use other stuff it’ll be at hdd speed.
Amilo159
There is a reason hybrid shhd never really became popular.
You should buy a proper ssd. Check if your motherboard has a M2 slot (which could be missing on older systems), then buy M2 SSD as they are the fastest.
But even a 1-2Tb sata SSD will be much better option for you. You can keep current drive as a media/backup unit.
Edit: yeah, I didn’t clearly mean 1-2gb.. Days when 2gb of storage was plenty are now a distant memory, even for phones or gadgets.
Hattix
It’s an SSD-cached HDD.
You’re discovering why they didn’t catch on.
Blakewerth
Its shows as HDD cause its HDD 😆
FeepStarr
well i learned something today. Never knew HDD with SSD caches existed. i see why i’ve never heard of them though
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slayez06
So everyone here is just bashing SSHD’s and giving no explanation of why.
When SSD’s first came out they were really small 40-120g and really really expensive.
There was a hybrid drive that came along and promised it was the best of both worlds.
It used a ssd as a Large Cache for the HD and was supposed to keep your most used files on the SSD part of the HD. Because the disk drive wasn’t going to be accessing that information as much it was promoted to make the drive last longer. So you could get 1tb SSHD’s that were supposed to have the performance of a SSD but the capacity of a HD
When they first came out… I fell for this hook line and sinker… It was the latest greatest and point blank I put them in all my builds. After about 2 -3 years they started failing and coming back into my shop. Really really bumbed me out but the good news was by that time the Price of SSD’s had come down.
Now we have m.2’s and the price of m.2 ssd’s is a joke. I paid on avg $100- 200 for 1tb SSHD’s and now you can pick up at 1tb m.2 for 50 bucks.
Everyone is saying it sucks and it does but it is telling you that it is failing and basically you need to plan to replace it as soon as possible. The good news is even with a standard ssd you will see a performance improvement!
TimmmyTurner
thats a hybrid drive basically a “buffed” HDD. go get yourself a gen3 or 4 nvme m.2 it’s easily 10x faster
CarbonPhoenix96
Oh I know all about these horrible things. You have a standard HDD using an Intel optane 16 or 32gb drive as a cache. This was supposed to be a “best of both worlds” solution when real SSDs were prohibitively expensive. It was just the worst of both. You can repurpose the m.2 slot for a real SSD and keep the HDD as a secondary but you have to take it out of RAID mode, losing your data. You can of course clone it first though.
bello_f1go
bro got scammed
GTA6_1
Cause this is just an hdd with an optane drive boosting it. Never really caught on cause as you are experiencing first hand, it doesn’t live up to the promise of normal ssd performance. You’ll probably get better speeds with just a sata ssd but if you have a m.2 slot use that
SoDrunkRightNow2
A lot of times those optane drives cause really weird system behavior. Sometimes they act as cache (sort of like RAM) except they’re too slow to properly function in that way, so the whole system tends to hang.
If it is at all possible either through your bios or through windows drive management, re-designate the drive as a basic storage device.
Expensive-Coffee-126
Because it’s not SSD. Intel Optane is very good but it’s not going to magically turn your old hdd into ssd
Nitazene-King-002
Just get yourself a real ssd, it’s way faster.
Even_Stay5084
Buy a real SSD and ditch that hybrid disc that slow AF.
blazblu82
You have what’s called a hybrid HDD/SDD. Basically, it still has the mechanical side of a typical HDD, but uses an SSD as the cache/memory. It’s an upgrade from a traditional HDD, but still slower than a pure SSD.
promooftheyear
Wow I forgot all about Optane
InsaneAdam
M.2 ‘s are where it’s at. Unless you need 4tb or more per stick.
ElDerpington69
I don’t know man, “slow as duck” might be unfair, I’ve seen some ducks move pretty damn quick.
ToxicEvHater
Lol silly
AmbitiousTruthSeeker
PSA Every machine you make will have a bottleneck.
No such thing as no bottleneck.
Have a Safe Day!!
YuukiHaruto
Optane 16GB (as was common) is a separate nvme SSD in the M.2 slot using Intel Optane technology that was supposed to be much more than just a footnote as it is now but it excelled at random Read/Write operations thus it was an excellent cache… something prebuilds were happy to use because they could try to get away with a HDD. Thankfully they don’t. It’s still awful nevertheless.
Some say it uses SATA but no, I’ve never seen Optane built on the HDD itself, this is just Intel RST combining both drives together, ages ago, Intel also used first gen SSDs to cache HDDs under Intel RST naming
Redrum_Bathtub
Whoa cool! A hybrid disk! Honestly I think they are super neat but they are just as slow as any other hdd. Time for an ssd or an m.2!
_zir_
thats an HDD with an optane cache
OmgThisNameIsFree
This comment section is making me realize there are lot of noobier people on here.
Not saying it’s a bad thing at all – I love seeing people interested in this stuff, it’s great.
It does make some of the advice I’ve seen make a LOT more sense though lol.
PacxDragon
932GB of actual Optane SSD would have set you back about $30k lmao
aliibaneadaa
lol
Retoru45
Well, that’s not an SSD. It’s an HDD with an optane cache.
iamgarffi
It’s called a hybrid disk. Optane is used for cache and often it’s 16G only. Better go these days with an actual SSD.
Helpful-Work-3090
welcome to the optane, this is the reason no one has them
Lothar93
Fun fact, my sister figures in the optane patent, we talk about her work from time to time, and I give her crap for it, she call my old PC “the traitor” cuz she offered me an state of the art optane HDD and I gracefully declined in favor of my pretty normal SDD.
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What is this a acer nitro or something. Optane is just used as cache, At least for consumer platforms.
If it is intel optane (16/32gb), I think you are combine it with 1Tb hdd and using it as a hybrid disk
Optane, meaning it has fast cache (for frequently used stuff) but once that’s full and it needs to use other stuff it’ll be at hdd speed.
There is a reason hybrid shhd never really became popular.
You should buy a proper ssd. Check if your motherboard has a M2 slot (which could be missing on older systems), then buy M2 SSD as they are the fastest.
But even a 1-2Tb sata SSD will be much better option for you. You can keep current drive as a media/backup unit.
Edit: yeah, I didn’t clearly mean 1-2gb.. Days when 2gb of storage was plenty are now a distant memory, even for phones or gadgets.
It’s an SSD-cached HDD.
You’re discovering why they didn’t catch on.
Its shows as HDD cause its HDD 😆
well i learned something today. Never knew HDD with SSD caches existed. i see why i’ve never heard of them though
[deleted]
So everyone here is just bashing SSHD’s and giving no explanation of why.
When SSD’s first came out they were really small 40-120g and really really expensive.
There was a hybrid drive that came along and promised it was the best of both worlds.
It used a ssd as a Large Cache for the HD and was supposed to keep your most used files on the SSD part of the HD. Because the disk drive wasn’t going to be accessing that information as much it was promoted to make the drive last longer. So you could get 1tb SSHD’s that were supposed to have the performance of a SSD but the capacity of a HD
When they first came out… I fell for this hook line and sinker… It was the latest greatest and point blank I put them in all my builds. After about 2 -3 years they started failing and coming back into my shop. Really really bumbed me out but the good news was by that time the Price of SSD’s had come down.
Now we have m.2’s and the price of m.2 ssd’s is a joke. I paid on avg $100- 200 for 1tb SSHD’s and now you can pick up at 1tb m.2 for 50 bucks.
Everyone is saying it sucks and it does but it is telling you that it is failing and basically you need to plan to replace it as soon as possible. The good news is even with a standard ssd you will see a performance improvement!
thats a hybrid drive basically a “buffed” HDD. go get yourself a gen3 or 4 nvme m.2 it’s easily 10x faster
Oh I know all about these horrible things. You have a standard HDD using an Intel optane 16 or 32gb drive as a cache. This was supposed to be a “best of both worlds” solution when real SSDs were prohibitively expensive. It was just the worst of both. You can repurpose the m.2 slot for a real SSD and keep the HDD as a secondary but you have to take it out of RAID mode, losing your data. You can of course clone it first though.
bro got scammed
Cause this is just an hdd with an optane drive boosting it. Never really caught on cause as you are experiencing first hand, it doesn’t live up to the promise of normal ssd performance. You’ll probably get better speeds with just a sata ssd but if you have a m.2 slot use that
A lot of times those optane drives cause really weird system behavior. Sometimes they act as cache (sort of like RAM) except they’re too slow to properly function in that way, so the whole system tends to hang.
If it is at all possible either through your bios or through windows drive management, re-designate the drive as a basic storage device.
Because it’s not SSD. Intel Optane is very good but it’s not going to magically turn your old hdd into ssd
Just get yourself a real ssd, it’s way faster.
Buy a real SSD and ditch that hybrid disc that slow AF.
You have what’s called a hybrid HDD/SDD. Basically, it still has the mechanical side of a typical HDD, but uses an SSD as the cache/memory. It’s an upgrade from a traditional HDD, but still slower than a pure SSD.
Wow I forgot all about Optane
M.2 ‘s are where it’s at. Unless you need 4tb or more per stick.
I don’t know man, “slow as duck” might be unfair, I’ve seen some ducks move pretty damn quick.
Lol silly
PSA Every machine you make will have a bottleneck.
No such thing as no bottleneck.
Have a Safe Day!!
Optane 16GB (as was common) is a separate nvme SSD in the M.2 slot using Intel Optane technology that was supposed to be much more than just a footnote as it is now but it excelled at random Read/Write operations thus it was an excellent cache… something prebuilds were happy to use because they could try to get away with a HDD. Thankfully they don’t. It’s still awful nevertheless.
Some say it uses SATA but no, I’ve never seen Optane built on the HDD itself, this is just Intel RST combining both drives together, ages ago, Intel also used first gen SSDs to cache HDDs under Intel RST naming
Whoa cool! A hybrid disk! Honestly I think they are super neat but they are just as slow as any other hdd. Time for an ssd or an m.2!
thats an HDD with an optane cache
This comment section is making me realize there are lot of noobier people on here.
Not saying it’s a bad thing at all – I love seeing people interested in this stuff, it’s great.
It does make some of the advice I’ve seen make a LOT more sense though lol.
932GB of actual Optane SSD would have set you back about $30k lmao
lol
Well, that’s not an SSD. It’s an HDD with an optane cache.
It’s called a hybrid disk. Optane is used for cache and often it’s 16G only. Better go these days with an actual SSD.
welcome to the optane, this is the reason no one has them
Fun fact, my sister figures in the optane patent, we talk about her work from time to time, and I give her crap for it, she call my old PC “the traitor” cuz she offered me an state of the art optane HDD and I gracefully declined in favor of my pretty normal SDD.