Full ack!
Am4 is still rock solid for gaming. Especially with the x3d-chips!
racerxff
Buying AM4 is fine. Period. No need to ~~go~~ rationalize any further.
Prodigy_of_Bobo
WRONG legally speaking you are required to buy AM5 or AMD will send the police after you
dubar84
Anyone with an AM4 mobo has zero reason to go AM5 yet. The performance gain is not enough in comparison and certainly meager when we factor in the huge price increase for the new mobos. They also run a lot hotter, so the first gen adopter tax is definitely there. With AM5, AMD had one goal, to somehow increase performance at all cost to validate it’s existence. Same with the first Ryzen gen, 1000’s did introduce something, but proper optimization only came with the 2000 series. While AM4 is perfected to the brim at what it can do, and the performance difference between DDR4 and DDR5 is pretty much nothing.
CYKO_11
my brain read AM4 as ‘An M4’. maybe i should go sleep
Burner69359
AM4 is exceptionally good for its price point. I don’t see what the contention is. Shit’s great. One of the best things we’ve gotten out of PC gaming in a while. Up there with ARC in terms of value for hardware.
BoxcarOO62
I just updated from 3700X/2060 to 5800X3D/6800. Plan to ride it out until AM6.
VortexDestroyer99
The 5500 is good, but bottlenecks are definitely there for some games. Even with a 3060, DRG gets suuuuper cpu bound to the point where I get below 60fps when swarms happen in Haz5 where I didn’t for my 11700k. For COD, Assetto, CC2, BeamNG, Fortnite, MC, etc I have absolutely no issues though.
Thechosenjon
AM4 is still great overall and a very viable option for new builds
OkRole1916
I’ve always upgraded every other generation which works out well once you credit the used parts sold.
deefop
I really recommend against buying AM4 brand new at this point, because the price disparity between AM4 and AM5 isn’t big enough to justify going AM4 with a new build.
But there’s still plenty of scenarios where AM4 can make sense, especially on tight budgets and also buying used.
The 5800x3d is still a top tier gaming CPU, and I’m kind of guessing it’s going to continue to be at least “very good” until at least 2026. AMD kind of made it accidentally too good.
Dizzy-South9352
I dont think so, because “the budget” is pretty damn close. unless you are buying something less than 5800x3d, then might as well just buy used. would be much more beneficial and you could get much more for your money.
Suby06
if it’s for gaming then any cpu that doesn’t bottleneck your desired gpu would be just fine I would think
VengeanceBee
Honestly i would have went from my 5600x to a 5800x3d but the prices on bundles at microcenter were so good it was worth it
Needed new ram and a mobo anyways something was up with the last setup lol
TrandaBear
I’m waiting for another sale to slap a 5600x3d into B550
ExtraTNT
I still run a 3900x… is enough to build stuff… also i have 96gb ddr4 ram… would be stupid to go for am5, get new ram etc… maybe i get a 5950x in the next few years…
TrueNoVa
AMEN. such a great take!
darealboot
Over the pandemic I got a 5900x when they were brand new. It’s a 10 year pc so I’ll be good for a good while yet
Active-Quarter-4197
7500f + Hdv m.2 + 32 Hynix a die is around 300. Hard to argue for any am4 cpu other than the 5500 or 5600 at below 100.
TWOFEETUNDER
Still rocking my 3700x and it works great!
Meatslinger
Upgrading AM4 from an older chip in the same socket is fine, but building a new AM5 rig is almost the same cost as building a new AM4 rig. There’s little reason to build a *new* AM4. But yeah, swapping in a 5800x3D to give an older system a huge boost? Totally; go nuts.
Arbszy
I was on AM3+ longer than I needed too. Buying into AM4 is fine. But I also chose to leapfrog to AM5 for the same reason I sat on AM3+ for so long.
Building PCs are expensive and replacing a motherboard and cpu is more annoying than replacing a GPU.
Wh000ey
B-b-but- but Zach’s tech turf!!!! H- he said—-
colesym
5700x3D and 7800XT, 1440p winner.
Diekjung
In my opinion AM5 only makes sense when you start from scratch and want to be future proof. But also there isn’t a guarantee that AM5 will be around as long as AM4. I wouldn’t be surprised if it only lasts half as long as AM4.
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Full ack!
Am4 is still rock solid for gaming. Especially with the x3d-chips!
Buying AM4 is fine. Period. No need to ~~go~~ rationalize any further.
WRONG legally speaking you are required to buy AM5 or AMD will send the police after you
Anyone with an AM4 mobo has zero reason to go AM5 yet. The performance gain is not enough in comparison and certainly meager when we factor in the huge price increase for the new mobos. They also run a lot hotter, so the first gen adopter tax is definitely there. With AM5, AMD had one goal, to somehow increase performance at all cost to validate it’s existence. Same with the first Ryzen gen, 1000’s did introduce something, but proper optimization only came with the 2000 series. While AM4 is perfected to the brim at what it can do, and the performance difference between DDR4 and DDR5 is pretty much nothing.
my brain read AM4 as ‘An M4’. maybe i should go sleep
AM4 is exceptionally good for its price point. I don’t see what the contention is. Shit’s great. One of the best things we’ve gotten out of PC gaming in a while. Up there with ARC in terms of value for hardware.
I just updated from 3700X/2060 to 5800X3D/6800. Plan to ride it out until AM6.
The 5500 is good, but bottlenecks are definitely there for some games. Even with a 3060, DRG gets suuuuper cpu bound to the point where I get below 60fps when swarms happen in Haz5 where I didn’t for my 11700k. For COD, Assetto, CC2, BeamNG, Fortnite, MC, etc I have absolutely no issues though.
AM4 is still great overall and a very viable option for new builds
I’ve always upgraded every other generation which works out well once you credit the used parts sold.
I really recommend against buying AM4 brand new at this point, because the price disparity between AM4 and AM5 isn’t big enough to justify going AM4 with a new build.
But there’s still plenty of scenarios where AM4 can make sense, especially on tight budgets and also buying used.
The 5800x3d is still a top tier gaming CPU, and I’m kind of guessing it’s going to continue to be at least “very good” until at least 2026. AMD kind of made it accidentally too good.
I dont think so, because “the budget” is pretty damn close. unless you are buying something less than 5800x3d, then might as well just buy used. would be much more beneficial and you could get much more for your money.
if it’s for gaming then any cpu that doesn’t bottleneck your desired gpu would be just fine I would think
Honestly i would have went from my 5600x to a 5800x3d but the prices on bundles at microcenter were so good it was worth it
Needed new ram and a mobo anyways something was up with the last setup lol
I’m waiting for another sale to slap a 5600x3d into B550
I still run a 3900x… is enough to build stuff… also i have 96gb ddr4 ram… would be stupid to go for am5, get new ram etc… maybe i get a 5950x in the next few years…
AMEN. such a great take!
Over the pandemic I got a 5900x when they were brand new. It’s a 10 year pc so I’ll be good for a good while yet
7500f + Hdv m.2 + 32 Hynix a die is around 300. Hard to argue for any am4 cpu other than the 5500 or 5600 at below 100.
Still rocking my 3700x and it works great!
Upgrading AM4 from an older chip in the same socket is fine, but building a new AM5 rig is almost the same cost as building a new AM4 rig. There’s little reason to build a *new* AM4. But yeah, swapping in a 5800x3D to give an older system a huge boost? Totally; go nuts.
I was on AM3+ longer than I needed too. Buying into AM4 is fine. But I also chose to leapfrog to AM5 for the same reason I sat on AM3+ for so long.
Building PCs are expensive and replacing a motherboard and cpu is more annoying than replacing a GPU.
B-b-but- but Zach’s tech turf!!!! H- he said—-
5700x3D and 7800XT, 1440p winner.
In my opinion AM5 only makes sense when you start from scratch and want to be future proof. But also there isn’t a guarantee that AM5 will be around as long as AM4. I wouldn’t be surprised if it only lasts half as long as AM4.