It’s obviously a predatory practice but that is exactly what you get for effectively a monopoly.
Hawtdawgz_4
Man they love poking bears for greed.
New-Year_New-Account
I mean they provide the infrastructure and bandwidth to distribute the games… in my opinion releases on epic only is the real asshole move
Wunderhaus
And I call Tim Sweeney an asshole for making it legally impossible to buy the Unreal series.
Redfeather1975
Well valve is getting it’s dues soon enough.
YuriEffinGarza
Yeah fuck you Tim! All you do is pump out garbage for Fortnite
ararezaee
The fall of Sweeney is going to be Epic
MouthBreatherGaming
The vulgarity! Why I do believe I have the vapors…
LeviathansFatass
Epic sucks
PPMD_IS_BACK
As if epic doesn’t do back room deals themselves. Damn hypocrites
Osprey616
Sweeney seems to have a bit of a bug bear at the moment , I mean if epic actually built a store that was any good and did not hold games hostage with exclusives 🙈
tehjeffman
Someone is mad their attempt to buy their way into a player base failed due to having a terrible app lacking of any modern functionality, and by modern I’m talking 2000+
illmatication
I don’t see how they’re assholes when the 70/30 fee is the common split for businesses
Pancakemanz
The amount they charge for skins on fortnite is outrageous
TheJunkyVirus
The only good thing about Epics store is the free games.
Deynai
Kind of weird to me that this article/story is doing the rounds as some Epic vs Steam name calling when the entire point of the email Tim Sweeney sent was about iOS and Apple monopolising their platform and bending to authoritarian governments against developers.
The larger idea was that Tim was reaching out to Valve as a potential ally in the platform distributor space, against Apple, and taking the side of developers instead of quietly condoning a precedent of corporate red tape and backroom deals.
Whether it was sincere or not is up for debate but reducing the email down to “He called them assholes” is an awful headline, and article.
Stilgar314
“In an internal response to Sweeney’s message, Valve’s chief operating officer, Scott Lynch, questioned: “You mad bro?” “
Yshtoya
isn’t paying devs to put their games as timed exclusives on a shitty inferior platform also being an asshole?
56Bagels
I appreciate what Tim Sweeney stands for but EGS just sucks ass and he seems so desperate to steal relevancy that I don’t want to support him either.
Existing365Chocolate
Lots of people licking Valve’s boots in this comment section
They’re not better than Apple or Google in terms of their shitty platform fees for devs
Dangerous-Mark7266
platform exclusives are an asshole move too timothy
FML_FTL
Epic boss Tim Sweeney is an asshole coz he cant even do the fraction of steam with epic launcher and pretends he is the savior of all developers.
KilllerWhale
u mad bro?
Cerberus-Coco-Mimi
also epic making poor decisions
KilllerWhale
Sweeny must be the biggest karen of the industry.
THSiGMARotMG
2018 email btw, not anytime recent.
AppropriateYouth7683
And yet steam is still king because it has way more features than the other launchers.
Digital_Dinosaurio
Jokes on Tim. Once WW3 wipes out civilization, Gabe will allow Steam Users to live inside his fleet of nuclear submarines.
Bullet1289
Steam supports it employees, isn’t bound by shareholders and actually seem to have somewhat of a heart, while they aren’t perfect they are far far better then Epic will ever be as a company and I want nothing to do with them
tangiblenoah67
I saw a thing that said that this happened a few years ago. Which one is true?
alottagames
ROFL. Sweeney is losing his damn mind. The guy seems so unstable. I mean I applaud LOUDLY his fight, but like…it is what it is and if the money Epic has poured into this fight already hasn’t yielded meaningful results yet – time to cut anchor and sail on.
DonnieDikbut
Hey tim maybe give me back the infinity blade book/games I paid for that you retroactively deleted from my itunes account ya gronk
Virolancer
Cooked Take, steam provides so many features
kamiztheman
Is this a rich man mad at another rich man because one product seems to do better than the other? That’s crazy dog.
Jaceofspades6
He should build a better platform then.
TheStevesie
Tim is also the guy buying monopolistic exclusivity deals while crying to congress about Apple being a monopoly (not even close). Forcing anyone who wants to play certain games to use his shitty platform.
Honestly, I’d be okay if Gabe did exclusivity deals, but he doesn’t have to because his platform doesn’t suck.
Ognius
I’m beginning to think the vendor that fights with every other vendor and calls all of them assholes while predatorily monetizing children’s gambling in video games might actually be the asshole? 🤔
Mr_Rogersbot
They picked the weirdest thing to try and get customers angry about. We’re supposed to be outraged that valve takes a 30% cut.
If I buy a $12 game that’s on sale, am I supposed to be mad that valve gets to keep $4 in exchange for letting me download it as many times as I want forever? Not to mention the automatic updates, and the workshop, tech support forum, in-game chat, etc.
I don’t know the specifics of the game industry, but it just seems like wholesale to retail markup
lonezomewolf
Timmy sure is an expert on assholes, as he’s a gigantic one himself…
lastfreethinker
Cool, I call him an asshole for calling all PC gamers pirates.
TeslaWasACoolDude
Every single person complaining about thud doesn’t know what they are talking about.
Yeah epic can suck all you want, yeah maybe you don’t like Tim Sweeny. But charging 30% of your sales shouldn’t be allowed in any single platform. It is abusive, and the actual cost of the infrastructure is never anywhere close to what they are charging.
They also do it because they hold a huge user base and it’s basically the only way to get to them. Apple , Microsoft, Sony and Google are all guilty of doing this.
Having exclusives on their platform is completely unrelated to this and even if you don’t like it (I for sure don’t defend it), well it doesn’t invalidate his statement. As it is not related to it.
Andras89
Valve make good games. And Steam is the best on the market. Other platforms tried it and sucked being exclusive this or that.
They take a cut, I hope to see this reduced for indie devs.
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It’s obviously a predatory practice but that is exactly what you get for effectively a monopoly.
Man they love poking bears for greed.
I mean they provide the infrastructure and bandwidth to distribute the games… in my opinion releases on epic only is the real asshole move
And I call Tim Sweeney an asshole for making it legally impossible to buy the Unreal series.
Well valve is getting it’s dues soon enough.
Yeah fuck you Tim! All you do is pump out garbage for Fortnite
The fall of Sweeney is going to be Epic
The vulgarity! Why I do believe I have the vapors…
Epic sucks
As if epic doesn’t do back room deals themselves. Damn hypocrites
Sweeney seems to have a bit of a bug bear at the moment , I mean if epic actually built a store that was any good and did not hold games hostage with exclusives 🙈
Someone is mad their attempt to buy their way into a player base failed due to having a terrible app lacking of any modern functionality, and by modern I’m talking 2000+
I don’t see how they’re assholes when the 70/30 fee is the common split for businesses
The amount they charge for skins on fortnite is outrageous
The only good thing about Epics store is the free games.
Kind of weird to me that this article/story is doing the rounds as some Epic vs Steam name calling when the entire point of the email Tim Sweeney sent was about iOS and Apple monopolising their platform and bending to authoritarian governments against developers.
The larger idea was that Tim was reaching out to Valve as a potential ally in the platform distributor space, against Apple, and taking the side of developers instead of quietly condoning a precedent of corporate red tape and backroom deals.
Whether it was sincere or not is up for debate but reducing the email down to “He called them assholes” is an awful headline, and article.
“In an internal response to Sweeney’s message, Valve’s chief operating officer, Scott Lynch, questioned: “You mad bro?” “
isn’t paying devs to put their games as timed exclusives on a shitty inferior platform also being an asshole?
I appreciate what Tim Sweeney stands for but EGS just sucks ass and he seems so desperate to steal relevancy that I don’t want to support him either.
Lots of people licking Valve’s boots in this comment section
They’re not better than Apple or Google in terms of their shitty platform fees for devs
platform exclusives are an asshole move too timothy
Epic boss Tim Sweeney is an asshole coz he cant even do the fraction of steam with epic launcher and pretends he is the savior of all developers.
u mad bro?
also epic making poor decisions
Sweeny must be the biggest karen of the industry.
2018 email btw, not anytime recent.
And yet steam is still king because it has way more features than the other launchers.
Jokes on Tim. Once WW3 wipes out civilization, Gabe will allow Steam Users to live inside his fleet of nuclear submarines.
Steam supports it employees, isn’t bound by shareholders and actually seem to have somewhat of a heart, while they aren’t perfect they are far far better then Epic will ever be as a company and I want nothing to do with them
I saw a thing that said that this happened a few years ago. Which one is true?
ROFL. Sweeney is losing his damn mind. The guy seems so unstable. I mean I applaud LOUDLY his fight, but like…it is what it is and if the money Epic has poured into this fight already hasn’t yielded meaningful results yet – time to cut anchor and sail on.
Hey tim maybe give me back the infinity blade book/games I paid for that you retroactively deleted from my itunes account ya gronk
Cooked Take, steam provides so many features
Is this a rich man mad at another rich man because one product seems to do better than the other? That’s crazy dog.
He should build a better platform then.
Tim is also the guy buying monopolistic exclusivity deals while crying to congress about Apple being a monopoly (not even close). Forcing anyone who wants to play certain games to use his shitty platform.
Honestly, I’d be okay if Gabe did exclusivity deals, but he doesn’t have to because his platform doesn’t suck.
I’m beginning to think the vendor that fights with every other vendor and calls all of them assholes while predatorily monetizing children’s gambling in video games might actually be the asshole? 🤔
They picked the weirdest thing to try and get customers angry about. We’re supposed to be outraged that valve takes a 30% cut.
If I buy a $12 game that’s on sale, am I supposed to be mad that valve gets to keep $4 in exchange for letting me download it as many times as I want forever? Not to mention the automatic updates, and the workshop, tech support forum, in-game chat, etc.
I don’t know the specifics of the game industry, but it just seems like wholesale to retail markup
Timmy sure is an expert on assholes, as he’s a gigantic one himself…
Cool, I call him an asshole for calling all PC gamers pirates.
Every single person complaining about thud doesn’t know what they are talking about.
Yeah epic can suck all you want, yeah maybe you don’t like Tim Sweeny. But charging 30% of your sales shouldn’t be allowed in any single platform. It is abusive, and the actual cost of the infrastructure is never anywhere close to what they are charging.
They also do it because they hold a huge user base and it’s basically the only way to get to them. Apple , Microsoft, Sony and Google are all guilty of doing this.
Having exclusives on their platform is completely unrelated to this and even if you don’t like it (I for sure don’t defend it), well it doesn’t invalidate his statement. As it is not related to it.
Valve make good games. And Steam is the best on the market. Other platforms tried it and sucked being exclusive this or that.
They take a cut, I hope to see this reduced for indie devs.