i’d say that he is right in what he says but not accurate if that makes sense.
I agree that game devs do care about the game, however most the decisions are not taken by them but by people above them that look at data charts and tell you what it’s best for the majority.
Also, I honestly do not believe that they play their own game to the extent that they talk about it.
If you spend a whole day going around the same thing over and over again, do you really want to go home and be looking at the bugs that you couldn’t fix through the day? or the fixtures taht annoy you and want to improve.
I do believe that they might play it on and off with their friends, but not to this romanticised extreme, that was more for the clicks than accurary and truth
keizertamarine
Cap, total bullshit, they don’t give a single fuck.
The game isn’t even tested, same issues every year, more bugs than any other game ever, doesn’t have any sort of anti cheat.
Unless this post isn’t about CoD
TheStonedEdge
Cod devs just give 100% of their time and effort to the micro transactions
BerkayPflanze
I believe they 100% care about the players that keep buying the microtransactions….
automated10
If only they knew how hard it was; showing up to Reddit every day covered in Cheetos dust, having to complain that the water in the game is too watery or the sky is the wrong shade of blue. Or how to properly argue a point when somebody dare to have a different opinion to you.
It’s as if the whole player base seems to contradict each other with so many different views on the same subjects that it’s next to impossible to please everybody because everyone wants something vastly different.
PferdOne
Devs is used as a collective term, because you know 200 devs didnt come together and decided to fuck up the game. If Roze skin is unfair I ask “wtf devs?” not “wtf artists?”, if maps suck I‘m also asking “wtf devs?” not “wtf game director?”
So if you go make a statement that your devs really give a fuck, maybe your oblivious to the fact that you might be part of the problem.
Froth88
They probably do to be fair. But at the end of the day they have bosses and they need to make money for the company. I’m sure they realise the bs in the game
xthecerto4
Hes right that they give their best. But you cant tell me, that they play the game a lot and think the game is in a good state.
Paulie_Dev
Having worked in game dev for 4 years on different games, I can say most game devs care a lot more about their work compared to other tech workers.
People want to feel proud of their work in games, and game devs tend to gravitate towards working on franchises they have been fans of for years.
I would chalk up most issues in AAA games being tied to revenue forecasts and hard production timelines. I don’t think it’s fair to discredit the effort of hundreds/thousands of developers who put a lot of effort on the game, when most problems in large game studios can generally be blamed on a very small handful of Directors/VPs/C Suite pushing for aggressive monetization and production schedules.
24Elsinore
They are all handcuffed by the 20+ year old engine they have to work with… It’s gotta be a draining job for all involved and I’m sure they care, but are literally stretching the engine to the absolute max to get what they can.
Streakflash
devs do care, management staff doesnt
Hexpotatoman
yeah he is right…they care so much about the game that when the server and progress were fucked up nothing was working except the damn shop.
wicktus
Dev =/= managers and bean counters
It is important to make the distinction. I think dev do care but are maybe not given the proper time and resources (especially QC)
Damien23123
I think he’s telling the truth but the thing to remember is that they aren’t putting 100% into the things they want to do for the game. They’re putting 100% into the things some mid level suit at Activision thinks will make the most money
F3N7Y
If this is the truth, they quite simply all need sacked then, as they are completely incompetent. You can not be giving 100%, be good at your job and producing what we have now. Simple.
g13n4
People don’t really understand that there is a big difference between the managers who actually make decisions snd devs who do what they sre told. As a dev you can give 110% every day and still the game will be bad because your managers decided to cut costs and told you to concentrate on the development of the new animations for a bunny costume instead of fixing bugs.
johnnymonster1
Guys remember its not about devs its about the higher ups cutting money from development so they can take bigger paycheck, devs do job they wanted to do
Rizzguru
Sure doesn’t look like it
beedigitaldesign
Devs are always in it 100%, this is true. But they need time and money, and that comes from above. It’s the same if you see a movie with bad VFX. Maybe they had very little time to make that shot, even the best artist can’t do magic with no time.
Zimifrein
I kinda believe them. I don’t believe their management though.
stockzy
I believe him. People need to stop confusing passionate nerd devs with money driven management.
Th3MJK
The descision makers need to be the ones puting in gaming hrs everyday .This crap is forced by corporate, not by devs. Tie their bonuses to X amount of play time with X amount of kills , achievements and modes played per year .
bugistuta
Ted’s heart is probably in the right place, but it would take an hour or two of playtime from the average person to identify the glaring issues with the game.
thekushskywalker
They do blaming the developers and not the executives and management is silly
LegionOfGrixis
I think he is right, most devs are probably down to earth people who we all could share a drink with and talk about the latest meta. Remember they aren’t responsible for the choices in the game like 90% of the time that usually comes from the suits calling the shots.
maC69
* the controller community
KingfnKK
They only put 100% in the cosmetics store.
yMONSTERMUNCHy
And yet they still make blueprints that suck
Kuhaku-boss
Ted Timmins is delusional as fuck.
Unless the company is not publicly traded / has fucktards shareholders and suits then this is 100% fake.
Mean-Kaleidoscope759
funny how most of the kids on this reddit that complain about the game aren’t old enough to have a job or have never had a full time job before and don’t understand how it’s impossible to satisfy every player and their different preferences. You just CAN’T make a game EVERYONE likes.
endianess
I’m sure he’s right. It’s the leadership that is lacking. They focus the development effort into new things whilst neglecting QOL improvements and fixing bugs.
Something changed with WZ3 and I’ve gone from winning a solo match every night to hardly being able to kill anyone. My bullets don’t seem to register. My AA is all over the place. But every kill cam I watch they are hitting all head shots. Even when I have the jump on someone it’s likely they will still kill me. I don’t think they are cheating.
Someone came up a building cable which used to be a free kill. But even though I’m shooting them as they are getting off it they still killed me in milliseconds. I had barely done any damage despite both having the same gun. AMR.
But here’s the odd part. A few days ago when I played everything clicked and I was the one hitting all shots and was able to easily out gun people. So what changed? I played last night and could barely scrape a two kill game together.
Yesterday when I aimed in it flew to 11 o’clock above the target and was difficult to correct. Tried a few guns but all seemed to do the same. Except the RAM 9.
Something just feels totally off.
Exceptionalynormal
They obviously never see all the hackers then! Must be private company servers!
legoodboi
The end product is what speaks. The devs work hard, no doubt, but what exactly is their work directed towards if audio is wonky, the game is buggy beyond measure and crashes if someone sneezes, has frame drops every time you put on a gas mask or riot shield? They could put in 100% but if it’s not resulting in a concrete product for the end user, it’s useless
f1zo
Tell THEM TO PLAY with mouse please
SDBrown7
Is that why the game breaks with every update? Because you care? With the budget available, there is zero excuse for the constant problems this game has. The decision makers simply don’t care enough to invest the money into fixing them. And idiots will complain and still buy every new skin like a clown, enabling them to keep not fixing anything.
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i’d say that he is right in what he says but not accurate if that makes sense.
I agree that game devs do care about the game, however most the decisions are not taken by them but by people above them that look at data charts and tell you what it’s best for the majority.
Also, I honestly do not believe that they play their own game to the extent that they talk about it.
If you spend a whole day going around the same thing over and over again, do you really want to go home and be looking at the bugs that you couldn’t fix through the day? or the fixtures taht annoy you and want to improve.
I do believe that they might play it on and off with their friends, but not to this romanticised extreme, that was more for the clicks than accurary and truth
Cap, total bullshit, they don’t give a single fuck.
The game isn’t even tested, same issues every year, more bugs than any other game ever, doesn’t have any sort of anti cheat.
Unless this post isn’t about CoD
Cod devs just give 100% of their time and effort to the micro transactions
I believe they 100% care about the players that keep buying the microtransactions….
If only they knew how hard it was; showing up to Reddit every day covered in Cheetos dust, having to complain that the water in the game is too watery or the sky is the wrong shade of blue. Or how to properly argue a point when somebody dare to have a different opinion to you.
It’s as if the whole player base seems to contradict each other with so many different views on the same subjects that it’s next to impossible to please everybody because everyone wants something vastly different.
Devs is used as a collective term, because you know 200 devs didnt come together and decided to fuck up the game. If Roze skin is unfair I ask “wtf devs?” not “wtf artists?”, if maps suck I‘m also asking “wtf devs?” not “wtf game director?”
So if you go make a statement that your devs really give a fuck, maybe your oblivious to the fact that you might be part of the problem.
They probably do to be fair. But at the end of the day they have bosses and they need to make money for the company. I’m sure they realise the bs in the game
Hes right that they give their best. But you cant tell me, that they play the game a lot and think the game is in a good state.
Having worked in game dev for 4 years on different games, I can say most game devs care a lot more about their work compared to other tech workers.
People want to feel proud of their work in games, and game devs tend to gravitate towards working on franchises they have been fans of for years.
I would chalk up most issues in AAA games being tied to revenue forecasts and hard production timelines. I don’t think it’s fair to discredit the effort of hundreds/thousands of developers who put a lot of effort on the game, when most problems in large game studios can generally be blamed on a very small handful of Directors/VPs/C Suite pushing for aggressive monetization and production schedules.
They are all handcuffed by the 20+ year old engine they have to work with… It’s gotta be a draining job for all involved and I’m sure they care, but are literally stretching the engine to the absolute max to get what they can.
devs do care, management staff doesnt
yeah he is right…they care so much about the game that when the server and progress were fucked up nothing was working except the damn shop.
Dev =/= managers and bean counters
It is important to make the distinction. I think dev do care but are maybe not given the proper time and resources (especially QC)
I think he’s telling the truth but the thing to remember is that they aren’t putting 100% into the things they want to do for the game. They’re putting 100% into the things some mid level suit at Activision thinks will make the most money
If this is the truth, they quite simply all need sacked then, as they are completely incompetent. You can not be giving 100%, be good at your job and producing what we have now. Simple.
People don’t really understand that there is a big difference between the managers who actually make decisions snd devs who do what they sre told. As a dev you can give 110% every day and still the game will be bad because your managers decided to cut costs and told you to concentrate on the development of the new animations for a bunny costume instead of fixing bugs.
Guys remember its not about devs its about the higher ups cutting money from development so they can take bigger paycheck, devs do job they wanted to do
Sure doesn’t look like it
Devs are always in it 100%, this is true. But they need time and money, and that comes from above. It’s the same if you see a movie with bad VFX. Maybe they had very little time to make that shot, even the best artist can’t do magic with no time.
I kinda believe them. I don’t believe their management though.
I believe him. People need to stop confusing passionate nerd devs with money driven management.
The descision makers need to be the ones puting in gaming hrs everyday .This crap is forced by corporate, not by devs. Tie their bonuses to X amount of play time with X amount of kills , achievements and modes played per year .
Ted’s heart is probably in the right place, but it would take an hour or two of playtime from the average person to identify the glaring issues with the game.
They do blaming the developers and not the executives and management is silly
I think he is right, most devs are probably down to earth people who we all could share a drink with and talk about the latest meta. Remember they aren’t responsible for the choices in the game like 90% of the time that usually comes from the suits calling the shots.
* the controller community
They only put 100% in the cosmetics store.
And yet they still make blueprints that suck
Ted Timmins is delusional as fuck.
Unless the company is not publicly traded / has fucktards shareholders and suits then this is 100% fake.
funny how most of the kids on this reddit that complain about the game aren’t old enough to have a job or have never had a full time job before and don’t understand how it’s impossible to satisfy every player and their different preferences. You just CAN’T make a game EVERYONE likes.
I’m sure he’s right. It’s the leadership that is lacking. They focus the development effort into new things whilst neglecting QOL improvements and fixing bugs.
Something changed with WZ3 and I’ve gone from winning a solo match every night to hardly being able to kill anyone. My bullets don’t seem to register. My AA is all over the place. But every kill cam I watch they are hitting all head shots. Even when I have the jump on someone it’s likely they will still kill me. I don’t think they are cheating.
Someone came up a building cable which used to be a free kill. But even though I’m shooting them as they are getting off it they still killed me in milliseconds. I had barely done any damage despite both having the same gun. AMR.
But here’s the odd part. A few days ago when I played everything clicked and I was the one hitting all shots and was able to easily out gun people. So what changed? I played last night and could barely scrape a two kill game together.
Yesterday when I aimed in it flew to 11 o’clock above the target and was difficult to correct. Tried a few guns but all seemed to do the same. Except the RAM 9.
Something just feels totally off.
They obviously never see all the hackers then! Must be private company servers!
The end product is what speaks. The devs work hard, no doubt, but what exactly is their work directed towards if audio is wonky, the game is buggy beyond measure and crashes if someone sneezes, has frame drops every time you put on a gas mask or riot shield? They could put in 100% but if it’s not resulting in a concrete product for the end user, it’s useless
Tell THEM TO PLAY with mouse please
Is that why the game breaks with every update? Because you care? With the budget available, there is zero excuse for the constant problems this game has. The decision makers simply don’t care enough to invest the money into fixing them. And idiots will complain and still buy every new skin like a clown, enabling them to keep not fixing anything.