This is why I hate the DLSS talk when it comes to new cards. Give me raw performance that will be good, without using tech to downscale and generate frames.
gretnothing
Soon you won’t be able to play a 2d platformer without DLSS balance.
the_abortionat0r
This is what happens when fanboys drink the coolaid.
Instead of going where price and performance is people scream “RT/DLSS” as some sort of requirement for a new card or counter to AMD being a competitive option as if FSR2 doesn’t exist or RT isn’t even usable on AMD.
When publishers see these people claiming “DLSS is better than native” and “tasters less important” then they build their games with that in mind.
And these people are surprised pikachu face. This the tech equivalent of fuck around and find out.
throwaway_uow
“Our game is AAA, because it has requirements like it”
Gremliner00
They’re great ideas on paper, especially if your rig doesn’t have enough power to maintain either a stable 60 or you want better graphics quality, but we all knew devs and publishers would pull the excuse of having to turn them on as a necesary measure to play their unoptimized product.
PirateSecure118
Vote with your wallet until the problem goes away. It really is that simple.
Fragger-3G
DLSS and FSR are great for people who want to juice frames at 4k, but needing it to get playable framerates at 1080p is absolute bullshit.
DLSS, FSR, and TAA are making beautiful games look absolutely awful, and it’s so lame
Elden_Born
We have the same on consoles too, except even worse reconstruction methods 🤣🤣🤣
idontstealgrapes
Haha a tech subreddit so afraid of tech lmao
GloriousStone
The ONLY reason why games release in shitty state is becouse people still buy them.Why optimize if those morons will still buy it, and we can fix out shit later.
Lack of DLSS in Cities skylines 2, didn’t stop it from being one of the worst releases tech wise in history. It also didn’t stop it from achieving 100k peak on steam.Yall just looking for a scapegoat instead of taking a bit of accountability for your actions.
Crying about DLSS is like crying about a fucking shadow slider.
tiramisu_dodol
Heavensward mentioned, death to the Dravanian horde!
DVXC
My game runs at 120fps on Steam Deck AND I’m planning on adding FSR3 anyway. I’m not like other PC game developers uwu
Rubfer
When I say upscaling/FG was a mistake and people reply, “No, it isn’t,” instead of being an extra, it’s becoming essential in every damn game. Today, you may get 60 fps with 1080p, but you can bump the fps and resolution/quality with these tools. Tomorrow, you’ll need upscaling/FG to run at 1080p 60fps, so we’re back to square one, but worse.
One way to fix this is if Steam forces companies to list requirements without Up/FG and always include the targeted resolution, quality and FPS (like some do but should be a rule) and make it more prominent when viewing a game. Maybe there’s even a warning for when a game is unnecessarily heavy relative to the most common hardware in their hardware survey. Fake performance shouldn’t be a part of it.
OfflinePen
On paper DLSS is a great idea, gives older card the opportunity to last a little longer, but all it did was to give another excuse for lazy devs
Illustrious_Bunch_67
As any other business, game pub/dev companies like to save money. If you can run it 360p upscaled and don’t complain, they will do it and save money on optimization
EiffelPower76
Stupid post
Bogatyr1990
I don’t know man, Cyberpunk in overdrive mode with full path tracing running at 100fps with hardly to no discernible visual difference to native res on my 4080 super is pretty damn cool ngl. Starfield does 140-165fps lol. Looks pretty damn sharp to me in dlss quality at 3440×1440. Entirely new experience compared to my old 3070.
tarkinlarson
Yeah it’s a worry as they can be less optimized.
lexsanders
It’s true but people also don’t understand what optimization is and complain when a game uses 100% cpu, 100% gpu and 24gb of VRAM with 48 gb of ram and disk usage is 100% on a gen 4 nvme…
YukariTheAlpaca
AAA devs have gotten lazy now adays. I called ever since they first introduced DLSS and FSR onto the market.
MarkLarrz
Also blaming the Xbox Series S
Oculicious42
There are some memes that are so stupid they shouldn’t be allowed, this is one of them
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This is why I hate the DLSS talk when it comes to new cards. Give me raw performance that will be good, without using tech to downscale and generate frames.
Soon you won’t be able to play a 2d platformer without DLSS balance.
This is what happens when fanboys drink the coolaid.
Instead of going where price and performance is people scream “RT/DLSS” as some sort of requirement for a new card or counter to AMD being a competitive option as if FSR2 doesn’t exist or RT isn’t even usable on AMD.
When publishers see these people claiming “DLSS is better than native” and “tasters less important” then they build their games with that in mind.
And these people are surprised pikachu face. This the tech equivalent of fuck around and find out.
“Our game is AAA, because it has requirements like it”
They’re great ideas on paper, especially if your rig doesn’t have enough power to maintain either a stable 60 or you want better graphics quality, but we all knew devs and publishers would pull the excuse of having to turn them on as a necesary measure to play their unoptimized product.
Vote with your wallet until the problem goes away. It really is that simple.
DLSS and FSR are great for people who want to juice frames at 4k, but needing it to get playable framerates at 1080p is absolute bullshit.
DLSS, FSR, and TAA are making beautiful games look absolutely awful, and it’s so lame
We have the same on consoles too, except even worse reconstruction methods 🤣🤣🤣
Haha a tech subreddit so afraid of tech lmao
The ONLY reason why games release in shitty state is becouse people still buy them.Why optimize if those morons will still buy it, and we can fix out shit later.
Lack of DLSS in Cities skylines 2, didn’t stop it from being one of the worst releases tech wise in history. It also didn’t stop it from achieving 100k peak on steam.Yall just looking for a scapegoat instead of taking a bit of accountability for your actions.
Crying about DLSS is like crying about a fucking shadow slider.
Heavensward mentioned, death to the Dravanian horde!
My game runs at 120fps on Steam Deck AND I’m planning on adding FSR3 anyway. I’m not like other PC game developers uwu
When I say upscaling/FG was a mistake and people reply, “No, it isn’t,” instead of being an extra, it’s becoming essential in every damn game. Today, you may get 60 fps with 1080p, but you can bump the fps and resolution/quality with these tools. Tomorrow, you’ll need upscaling/FG to run at 1080p 60fps, so we’re back to square one, but worse.
One way to fix this is if Steam forces companies to list requirements without Up/FG and always include the targeted resolution, quality and FPS (like some do but should be a rule) and make it more prominent when viewing a game. Maybe there’s even a warning for when a game is unnecessarily heavy relative to the most common hardware in their hardware survey. Fake performance shouldn’t be a part of it.
On paper DLSS is a great idea, gives older card the opportunity to last a little longer, but all it did was to give another excuse for lazy devs
As any other business, game pub/dev companies like to save money. If you can run it 360p upscaled and don’t complain, they will do it and save money on optimization
Stupid post
I don’t know man, Cyberpunk in overdrive mode with full path tracing running at 100fps with hardly to no discernible visual difference to native res on my 4080 super is pretty damn cool ngl. Starfield does 140-165fps lol. Looks pretty damn sharp to me in dlss quality at 3440×1440. Entirely new experience compared to my old 3070.
Yeah it’s a worry as they can be less optimized.
It’s true but people also don’t understand what optimization is and complain when a game uses 100% cpu, 100% gpu and 24gb of VRAM with 48 gb of ram and disk usage is 100% on a gen 4 nvme…
AAA devs have gotten lazy now adays. I called ever since they first introduced DLSS and FSR onto the market.
Also blaming the Xbox Series S
There are some memes that are so stupid they shouldn’t be allowed, this is one of them