I think that’s pretty normal. If you are so inclined, you could re-paste with PTM7950 and new Gelid thermal pads.
HelaPuff2020
It’s a gaming laptop pushed to the max. Unless you undervolt that’s what it’s going to do on a game like cyberpunk where the gpu is pulling 100 watts which is a ton for a laptop
TheSexyKamil
That’s normal for a gaming laptop. Hot, loud, heavy and disposable little nuggets.
It’s not ideal but any heat damage would probably occur by the time it’s time to get a new one anyway
Bobsofa
What CPU? What GPU?
Usually a maxed out gaming laptop will have horrible temps, since there’s very limited space for the cooling solution.
AppleLord0
Pushing your hardware to the limit is never good, take care of your PC or laptop, limit FPS, or adjust power plan, and it will serve you better and for the longer time.
These 100c is okay recommendations are insane, there is a difference between technically won’t burn your laptop and actual, normal usage.
IMHO any temp on laptop that are higher than 85c are NOT OK.
DONTBANTHISON3
my 3070 5900hx hit 90s and stayed there whi le gaming intensely and still runs 3 years later with hardcore use
PowerStocker
100C is not good, 95c should be max as per AMD. Is it thermal throttling?
eestionreddit
Since you look to have a bit of headroom, try limiting FPS to 60. It may also help to experiment with undervolting your CPU. 87c should be fine, though.
Thewaltham
Dude that temperature there’s fine. My *desktop* can get that hot occasionally in the summer.
deefop
Your temps are ok in this screenshot, but I would not ever allow my cpu or GPU to run at 100c for any protracted period of time. If that’s happening, something isn’t right. At that point you’d either want to repaste the effected chip, or undervolt to claw some temperature back.
Haiaii
Gamed on a laptop that averaged like 94 C while gaming for 2 years and it still works just fine
horse3000
If you were concerned about PC temps you shouldn’t have a bought a laptop in the first place.
They run hot, because it is a bunch of parts crammed into a small space with crap cooling.
LFlame7
To lower temps on gaming laptop
1. Undervolt CPU and GPU
2. Make FPS lock to 60fps or 120fps
3. Lower some Graphics settings
4. If you want lower temp turn off turbo for CPU
StDream
It’s a gaming laptop, that’s normal.
builder397
Yes and no.
over 80°C is definitely not great, but 90-100°C is where the emergency shutoff lies, though with that turned off Ive heard of GPUs getting cooked up to 110°C and live. But it degrades the silicon faster, leading to components having a shorter lifespan. Think 8 years instead of 10.
That said, Laptops just dont have the space for better cooling solutions due to needing to be reasonably thin and light in order to be portable, so they push temps right up to the limit.
mechanicalboob
what games is this?
fenikz13
Most every modern chip will throttle itself, literally idiot proof
faverodefavero
Laptops have a very limited lifespan, that’s what I hate about them.
shadowmage666
Try not to go over 90c
Mercurionio
Laptop hardware is made with crazy temperatures in mind. 100 degrees for a gaming laptop is fine.
In fact, you can’t really damage your hardware, they will throttle to prevent the damage. Buy a cooling pad and play like that if you are afraid.
Sega-Playstation-64
100c is usually the thermal throttling point. Any higher would be worrisome, but your laptop probably won’t let it get higher than that
BradleyAllan23
As long as your gaming laptop isn’t actually on fire, it’s fine.
rincondelgabo
Real question is, do you really need a laptop? If not, buy a desktop and enjoy 50 degrees.
Legna-snave
Danm….. And to think I was worried about only 90°c on my CPU! 😳
jimmy8x
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You would be better off if you were completely ignorant of the concept of measuring your CPU/GPU temp. IGNORE IT. It’s a laptop. It’s going to run hot. Laptops run their shit at 100+C ALL DAY EVERY DAY FOREVER, and the part still does not fail.
Dizzy-South9352
yes, it is normal, but does not mean that is okay. that is the main reason why laptops suck so much ass
Sharkfacedsnake
It shouldnt hurt the laptop. Though to keep the temps down you might want to do a 60fps limit.
Interloper_Mango
Keep in mind the CPU usage is at 100% in cyberpunk. That’s why it is so hot.
-BladeSlasher-
My Pedator Helios 300 gets to 95°C and then the CPU thermal throttles, triggering PROCHOT and PWR alarms in throttlestop.
What I’ve found is that gaming laptops like these are meant to use an HDMI cable and external USB keyboard and mouse, while being chucked into this non frost wine cooler I have. Only way to game for more than 2 hrs without thermal stuttering.
TempoRolls
At 100C it works but you are going to hurt it in the long run and it won’t last as long. 87C is high but not alarmingly high. You don’t want to go lot higher if you want longevity. The cooler it runs, the less there is thermal expansion and less prone it is for breaking. At some point we also run into temperature measurement problem; you are not measuring temps on every single junction, on every transistor and can have hot spots. That means some parts of the CPU can be hotter than the measurement, some are lower. Giving some safety margins is wise. I don’t like mine to run a lot over 70C, but to be fair, i’m using PC for gaming. Laptops just do not have the same kind of cooling and will run hotter.
edit: Just to clear some comments that are quite awfully wrong. T max, the maximum rated temperature is calculated by looking at failure rates. When they drop to some arbitrary value that the manufacturer feels comfortable with, n amount of failures in x amount of time, that is the maximum temperature. Being some 20C below will ensure your components will last as long as you probably think they will. I do have formal education on the topic, going near maximum always means that the component is at higher risk of failing. Heat/cool cycles are also a factor, and how far hot/cool temps are from each other matters a ton. If you go to max constantly… things are not going to last as long.
It is up to each individual how high of a risk they are prepared to do, and none of us have the actual data, how high the manufacturer is willing to risk it.. So it is not just you, it is also how honest and cautious the manufacturer is. Cheaper parts tend to be rated higher than they should since you will just buy a new one if it burns, whereas really expensive stuff that is for medical, military etc critical stuff are rated much, MUCH lower because they simply can’t fail. If you don’t mind buying stuff again and again, run them at max. Not my business to say what you are going to do but i’m saying how things work so you can make more informed decision.
StardustOfDarkness
87 is ice cold for a laptop.
SealTheApproved
My desktop CPU used to stay at 100c every time I played for almost a year straight. You’re fine.
InstantlyTremendous
Absolutely fine, it will thermal throttle itself before any harm is done and those temps are what it is designed for.
Enjoy the game!
_Judge_Justice
While I don’t own a laptop, I had a similar question regarding CPU temps. I own a i9-10850k, and Intel states that it is guaranteed to run at 100 degrees C non-stop for 1 year.
NV-Nautilus
Perfectly normal, my 2021 Asus G14 runs games at like 94 C.
Russian_Hammer
Yea, thats about right for laptops.
mulmusic
Yes you should. Maybe not paranoid, but be concerned and take care of it.
I bought my tuf dash f15 a few months ago and had the same issue.
2 things i did to lower the temp:
-Disable hyper treading on UEFI/BIOS.
-Use Armory Crate to create a profile that sets the pc on performance and AC /fans to Turbo.
Now i usually play any game, including cyberpunk, at 79/84 °C, both gpu and cpu
ValorantDanishblunt
it’s true indeed, thermals on CPU should be around 90-100c and is a new standard. Thats also why gaming laptops have a shorter lifespan these days, VRM’s tend to blow up a lot more than in before 2018.
doge007
the cpu itself would be fine.
however the parts around it might fail much earlier. problem with thermals is that when you get heat trapped in a small space, something is going to give, and i think CPU is definitely not one of the first ones at 100c
Limp-Ocelot-6548
100 °C is fine. For the gaming laptops industry. After 2-3 years of such stress temps your laptop dies and new one is needed.
Alucardhellss
It’s fine as long as you are getting the performance that you are expecting
Modern cpus will never run hot enough to kill themselves because theu have so much protection built in to then
ieatass805
This is gaming laptops for you. There is not much you can do. This is why gaming laptops generally don’t last as long as towers.
But. Most folks run it that hot for a few years without issue. They are built to handle this somewhat well. It will inevitably shorten its potential life compared to a part running cooker.
cap7ainskull
It’s normal
Yuhavetobmadesjusgam
Is it good for the cpu: no
Can a laptop do better: no
Asleeper135
Did you even try googling this question? It’s more than just common knowledge in the PC world, it’s a common meme.
Relevant_Scallion_38
If possible, get cooling pad for you Laptop or at least raise it up to get better airflow. Though you may be doing that already.
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I think that’s pretty normal. If you are so inclined, you could re-paste with PTM7950 and new Gelid thermal pads.
It’s a gaming laptop pushed to the max. Unless you undervolt that’s what it’s going to do on a game like cyberpunk where the gpu is pulling 100 watts which is a ton for a laptop
That’s normal for a gaming laptop. Hot, loud, heavy and disposable little nuggets.
It’s not ideal but any heat damage would probably occur by the time it’s time to get a new one anyway
What CPU? What GPU?
Usually a maxed out gaming laptop will have horrible temps, since there’s very limited space for the cooling solution.
Pushing your hardware to the limit is never good, take care of your PC or laptop, limit FPS, or adjust power plan, and it will serve you better and for the longer time.
These 100c is okay recommendations are insane, there is a difference between technically won’t burn your laptop and actual, normal usage.
IMHO any temp on laptop that are higher than 85c are NOT OK.
my 3070 5900hx hit 90s and stayed there whi le gaming intensely and still runs 3 years later with hardcore use
100C is not good, 95c should be max as per AMD. Is it thermal throttling?
Since you look to have a bit of headroom, try limiting FPS to 60. It may also help to experiment with undervolting your CPU. 87c should be fine, though.
Dude that temperature there’s fine. My *desktop* can get that hot occasionally in the summer.
Your temps are ok in this screenshot, but I would not ever allow my cpu or GPU to run at 100c for any protracted period of time. If that’s happening, something isn’t right. At that point you’d either want to repaste the effected chip, or undervolt to claw some temperature back.
Gamed on a laptop that averaged like 94 C while gaming for 2 years and it still works just fine
If you were concerned about PC temps you shouldn’t have a bought a laptop in the first place.
They run hot, because it is a bunch of parts crammed into a small space with crap cooling.
To lower temps on gaming laptop
1. Undervolt CPU and GPU
2. Make FPS lock to 60fps or 120fps
3. Lower some Graphics settings
4. If you want lower temp turn off turbo for CPU
It’s a gaming laptop, that’s normal.
Yes and no.
over 80°C is definitely not great, but 90-100°C is where the emergency shutoff lies, though with that turned off Ive heard of GPUs getting cooked up to 110°C and live. But it degrades the silicon faster, leading to components having a shorter lifespan. Think 8 years instead of 10.
That said, Laptops just dont have the space for better cooling solutions due to needing to be reasonably thin and light in order to be portable, so they push temps right up to the limit.
what games is this?
Most every modern chip will throttle itself, literally idiot proof
Laptops have a very limited lifespan, that’s what I hate about them.
Try not to go over 90c
Laptop hardware is made with crazy temperatures in mind. 100 degrees for a gaming laptop is fine.
In fact, you can’t really damage your hardware, they will throttle to prevent the damage. Buy a cooling pad and play like that if you are afraid.
100c is usually the thermal throttling point. Any higher would be worrisome, but your laptop probably won’t let it get higher than that
As long as your gaming laptop isn’t actually on fire, it’s fine.
Real question is, do you really need a laptop? If not, buy a desktop and enjoy 50 degrees.
Danm….. And to think I was worried about only 90°c on my CPU! 😳
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You would be better off if you were completely ignorant of the concept of measuring your CPU/GPU temp. IGNORE IT. It’s a laptop. It’s going to run hot. Laptops run their shit at 100+C ALL DAY EVERY DAY FOREVER, and the part still does not fail.
yes, it is normal, but does not mean that is okay. that is the main reason why laptops suck so much ass
It shouldnt hurt the laptop. Though to keep the temps down you might want to do a 60fps limit.
Keep in mind the CPU usage is at 100% in cyberpunk. That’s why it is so hot.
My Pedator Helios 300 gets to 95°C and then the CPU thermal throttles, triggering PROCHOT and PWR alarms in throttlestop.
What I’ve found is that gaming laptops like these are meant to use an HDMI cable and external USB keyboard and mouse, while being chucked into this non frost wine cooler I have. Only way to game for more than 2 hrs without thermal stuttering.
At 100C it works but you are going to hurt it in the long run and it won’t last as long. 87C is high but not alarmingly high. You don’t want to go lot higher if you want longevity. The cooler it runs, the less there is thermal expansion and less prone it is for breaking. At some point we also run into temperature measurement problem; you are not measuring temps on every single junction, on every transistor and can have hot spots. That means some parts of the CPU can be hotter than the measurement, some are lower. Giving some safety margins is wise. I don’t like mine to run a lot over 70C, but to be fair, i’m using PC for gaming. Laptops just do not have the same kind of cooling and will run hotter.
edit: Just to clear some comments that are quite awfully wrong. T max, the maximum rated temperature is calculated by looking at failure rates. When they drop to some arbitrary value that the manufacturer feels comfortable with, n amount of failures in x amount of time, that is the maximum temperature. Being some 20C below will ensure your components will last as long as you probably think they will. I do have formal education on the topic, going near maximum always means that the component is at higher risk of failing. Heat/cool cycles are also a factor, and how far hot/cool temps are from each other matters a ton. If you go to max constantly… things are not going to last as long.
It is up to each individual how high of a risk they are prepared to do, and none of us have the actual data, how high the manufacturer is willing to risk it.. So it is not just you, it is also how honest and cautious the manufacturer is. Cheaper parts tend to be rated higher than they should since you will just buy a new one if it burns, whereas really expensive stuff that is for medical, military etc critical stuff are rated much, MUCH lower because they simply can’t fail. If you don’t mind buying stuff again and again, run them at max. Not my business to say what you are going to do but i’m saying how things work so you can make more informed decision.
87 is ice cold for a laptop.
My desktop CPU used to stay at 100c every time I played for almost a year straight. You’re fine.
Absolutely fine, it will thermal throttle itself before any harm is done and those temps are what it is designed for.
Enjoy the game!
While I don’t own a laptop, I had a similar question regarding CPU temps. I own a i9-10850k, and Intel states that it is guaranteed to run at 100 degrees C non-stop for 1 year.
Perfectly normal, my 2021 Asus G14 runs games at like 94 C.
Yea, thats about right for laptops.
Yes you should. Maybe not paranoid, but be concerned and take care of it.
I bought my tuf dash f15 a few months ago and had the same issue.
2 things i did to lower the temp:
-Disable hyper treading on UEFI/BIOS.
-Use Armory Crate to create a profile that sets the pc on performance and AC /fans to Turbo.
Now i usually play any game, including cyberpunk, at 79/84 °C, both gpu and cpu
it’s true indeed, thermals on CPU should be around 90-100c and is a new standard. Thats also why gaming laptops have a shorter lifespan these days, VRM’s tend to blow up a lot more than in before 2018.
the cpu itself would be fine.
however the parts around it might fail much earlier. problem with thermals is that when you get heat trapped in a small space, something is going to give, and i think CPU is definitely not one of the first ones at 100c
100 °C is fine. For the gaming laptops industry. After 2-3 years of such stress temps your laptop dies and new one is needed.
It’s fine as long as you are getting the performance that you are expecting
Modern cpus will never run hot enough to kill themselves because theu have so much protection built in to then
This is gaming laptops for you. There is not much you can do. This is why gaming laptops generally don’t last as long as towers.
But. Most folks run it that hot for a few years without issue. They are built to handle this somewhat well. It will inevitably shorten its potential life compared to a part running cooker.
It’s normal
Is it good for the cpu: no
Can a laptop do better: no
Did you even try googling this question? It’s more than just common knowledge in the PC world, it’s a common meme.
If possible, get cooling pad for you Laptop or at least raise it up to get better airflow. Though you may be doing that already.