Hello everyone, new to pc gaming and trying to figure everything out.
TL;DR- I have $1200, what would be the biggest upgrade from a 1660TI. Is the envy above good?
I had an MSI laptop with a 1660TI that I decided to upgrade. I play games like farming simulator, the division 2, and some call of duty zombies, nothing super serious.
I ended up buying the pc above, an HP envy with a 3070TI card I figured would be a huge upgrade from my old card after looking around online and looking at some benchmarks. Sadly, I didn’t see that huge of an improvement over my old one. Computer seems to be thermal throttling after 30-45 minutes of play time. Farming simulator seems to be able to be turned up a lot more from what I have it set at. Division 2 running about 80-90fps on just about max.
I was able to get the Envy for $999, but I have a budget of $1200. Is there something better for $1200 that would give me slightly better results? I was looking at an MSI desktop with a 4060, or a NZXT with a 4060TI. Will either of those be better?
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Pre-built, idk.. but as I’m sure most people on reddit would tell you, you can build one for cheaper that’s better. I just built a PC for $800 that has better specs than that. From what I’ve heard though, pre-built pcs are going to not only cost more, but have proprietary parts and do not focus on thermal control. I would consider building one for $1200, it’s a ton of fun!
At the $1200 price point you should be at minimum trying to get an RTX 4070 or RX 7800XT for the graphics card.
Is there a better PC for less than $1200?
Yes, if you build it yourself very easily yes. If you are averse to building you need to wait for some crazy pre-built sales and hawk /r/buildapcsales religously. DO NOT PAY FULL PRICE FOR A PREBUILT.
If you build it yourself something like this that has significantly better specs and is not using propreitary junk for the mobo, PSU and SSD and it costs about $1200.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hb4Wt7)
Type|Item|Price
:—-|:—-|:—-
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box) | $225.99 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/szfxFT/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-plus-wifi) | $179.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [OLOy Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tH4Zxr/oloy-blade-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl32-memory-nd5u1660320brlde) | $83.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DDWBD3/samsung-980-pro-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v8p1t0bam) | $82.00 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [PowerColor Hellhound OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BtkH99/powercolor-hellhound-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-7800-xt-16g-loc) | $519.99 @ Amazon
**Case** | [Phanteks Eclipse G300A (1 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6pBzK8/phanteks-eclipse-g300a-1-fan-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300ga_dbk01) | $34.99 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic FOCUS GX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RzfFf7/seasonic-focus-gx-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-650) | $89.99 @ Newegg
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1226.94
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| **Total** | **$1216.94**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-10-17 11:36 EDT-0400 |
That’s why pre builds suck you never know what you really get. often they cheap out on some parts to make good provit and bait customers with flashy parts like the graphics card or CPU.
Build your PC yourself just watch some YouTube videos or something similar it’s not that hard not like your doing rocket science.
You can get proper power supplys ram and cooling where you know that it is good.
Specs are good but they cut a lot of corners sooo
For $1150 at microcenter you can get the 7700x combo + 7800xt which is better in every way and the components are higher quality
7700x combo – $400
Peerless assassin – $36
7800xt – $500
Psu – $75-$105
1tb ssd – $40 Gen4
Case – $60-$90
There’s is if you’re building it yourself
You should build yourself. Here is a white build that I put together for just over $1200.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4NZTYN)
Type|Item|Price
:—-|:—-|:—-
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box) | $225.99 @ Amazon
**CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7TddnQ/thermalright-assassin-king-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ak120-se-white-argb-d6-2) | $22.90 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi) | $149.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KXV2FT/corsair-vengeance-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-cmh32gx5m2e6000c36w) | $99.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7nXJ7P/crucial-p5-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p5pssd8) | $53.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [ASRock Steel Legend OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bfV2FT/asrock-steel-legend-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx7800xt-sl-16go) | $519.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wvmmP6/montech-air-100-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-air-100-argb-white) | $66.90 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 – TT Premium 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Kh3NnQ/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-tt-premium-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0650fnfagu-l) | $79.99 @ Newegg
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1229.74
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| **Total** | **$1219.74**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-10-17 13:33 EDT-0400 |
A little more if you want a 4070.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ctRPFs)
Type|Item|Price
:—-|:—-|:—-
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box) | $225.99 @ Amazon
**CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7TddnQ/thermalright-assassin-king-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ak120-se-white-argb-d6-2) | $22.90 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi) | $149.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KXV2FT/corsair-vengeance-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-cmh32gx5m2e6000c36w) | $99.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7nXJ7P/crucial-p5-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p5pssd8) | $53.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rdMMnQ/msi-ventus-2x-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-rtx-4070-ventus-2x-white-12g-oc) | $559.99 @ B&H
**Case** | [Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wvmmP6/montech-air-100-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-air-100-argb-white) | $66.90 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 – TT Premium 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Kh3NnQ/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-tt-premium-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0650fnfagu-l) | $79.99 @ Newegg
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1269.74
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| **Total** | **$1259.74**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-10-17 13:34 EDT-0400 |
Thanks for the feedback everyone, I’m looking into building one myself, it’s all just so confusing for a non-tech person haha. I’m slowly working through it all though