It’s a good thing they made a completely new game instead of refining the old one like every other modern game. Cod devs know best, after all.
LegionOfGrixis
No idea why IW went and reinvented the wheel, I don’t really care you took slide cancelling out. But so many other changes that raven made for quality of life are just gone.
This is exactly why you release a sequel. You remake things from the ground up that have been problems for years, and you couldn’t change without fundamentally changing the engine. Strictly improving everything you couldn’t before, without changing what makes the game at its core.
Meanwhile we got WZ2 just to have shit audio, shit servers, shit ttk, shit movement, shit snipers, and a lot of bugs. Fucking blows my mind seriously. The amount of QoL we slowly got in WZ1 they removed for WZ2 to make a clunky mess at release is a joke.
Al-mazrah should’ve been a WZ1 map with a weapon reset for MW2 weapons and some balance changes, and then keep working on WZ2 and release it in like 2025 when it’s fucking ready. Jesus christ. I’m pissed.
TechnicalEnergy5858
Crazy. They got to LEARN from Csgo and Fortnite, and I don’t mean from a game design perspective, but learn to stick to a system that works and keep on improving it like they both did in all these years. Instead of fucking create new broken game every 2 years and piss off the entire community. Warzone 1 was GOOD. Just needed some improvements, console FOV and be optimized overall.
AVMADEVS
Look at the “sub tick” techno of cs 2, looks awesome. Meanwhile stuck with clunky movement and trash servers on mw2.
Ill-Imagination-321
Even now after all these changes, wz2 is still a downgrade to wz1
Slow-Concentrate7169
Theyll need a lot of creativity to make the game fun. 😂😂
pewpewlasersandshit
Someone on here put it perfectly into words:
Going from WZ2 to WZ1 feels like what going from WZ1 to WZ2 should’ve felt like
_casualcowboy
It’s all about the AI! Progressive!
WaffleWarrior1979
If I didn’t know any better and played both games without knowing their titles I would assume this is WZ1 and WZ1 was the sequel based on how much more refined it is. I just can’t believe they made all those quality of life changes and then just threw them out the window. Just an absolute waste. So much potential thrown away. I can’t imagine how much more money they would have made if competent people were in charge. Hopefully they clean house of these stupidass decision makers.
LateSpeaker4226
Counter Strike 2 will let you carry on using the cosmetics you already own, but they’ll look even better. That’s how you fucking do it, Activision.
-Richarmander-
I still stand by the notion that Warzone 2 was not created as a game to be played by a playerbase but as a product created to a consumer base to bolster stocks and investment. They don’t care the game is shit. They only care that you’re either buying hats or playing to fill games for the people that do buy hats. They only care about line go up. See also: Every other thing Acti-Blizzard has done in the last 10+ years
Sota77
Everytime I come to this sub to check on the status of this game, it always seems like everyone is in an abusive relationship, but they don’t leave and keep telling themselves things might get better.
SomeLuckBrian
Since Activi$ion, IW, Raven all love blueprints so much, they should just use a blueprint for a fun successful game: Warzone1
blackandgold96
I started playing Fortnite for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I have to say, it is a beautifully smooth running game. I definitely prefer the COD style of game, but if they could get COD to run as smooth as Fortnite we would be in for a real treat.
bigchiefgreez
I think they are scrapping this WZ2 and starting over with the next release later this year. Movement gameplay will feel more like WZ 1 and then they can incorporate the yearly COD release into that WZ similar to how it was before. Atleast if they were smart. This game is toast and there isn’t as much to milk.
tcarnie
Hopefully valve gives Activision a masterclass in how to not fuck their game up.
TheRealRonMexico7
And people acting like im on something saying ill definitely be playing OTHER games in the near future! Fortnites coming for CoD blood too….they already have a Domination game mode! WZ2 gonna end up going down as a turning point for CoD.
Fortnites basically letting people build CoD maps too…im telling you. FPS/BR is entering a new phase and CoD gonna get left behind. Im watching tim play fortnite right now….it looks clean as fuck!!!
Imperitur93
“Bring your entire CS:GO inventory with you to Counter-Strike 2. Not only will you keep every item you’ve collected over the years, but they’ll all benefit from Source 2 lighting and materials. In addition to supporting legacy models and finishes, all stock weapons have been upgraded with high-resolution models, and some weapon finishes take advantage of these new models.”
Git Gud Activision,useless clowns
HOLIEST-DREAD
Activision: “We’ve heard you and will now double the bots in DMZ”
EaglesNwO
fuckin sick of the cock sucking cheaters in this game. forget features, do something about your broken anti cheat.
TheEternalGazed
Warzone 2 is down bad right now. All of its competitors are having huge content drops right now. Activision is dripfeeding features that we’ve been asking for months.
Nest0r562
I just hate that they keep doing annual releases in call of duty. I wish they would support their titles for 2-3 years at least. Hoping they don’t release Warzone 3. They should’ve separated WZ2 and multiplayer, gun balancing is an issue that affects both games when the meta in multiplayer is a lot different than in BR
NYFJ
I switched to 120hz on my series x and the game runs fine and is so much smoother but it’s so fucking blurry beyond like 50 meters.
Maybe I’m an idiot and it’s user error but I feel like I’ve tried everything on the console side and the monitor side. HDR and no HDR.
And obviously the audio is atrocious.
BigDaddyKrool
Counter-Strike 2 and Fortnite Chapter 4 are sequels made entirely from the ground up from their previous iterations while retaining the content, quality and cosmetics so *everything* players learned, earned and bought transferred over with no effort
Warzone 2 did none of that and has suffered greatly for it all.
This WILL go down as a massive lesson for any other company that tries to do what Call of Duty did
trippleknot
PUBG so dead it doesn’t even get mentioned 🥲
holyhibachi
I’m just dumbfounded at how awful the gunplay is. How did they make a sequel this much worse? The UI is awful, the gunsmith is terrible, every gun feels exactly the same.
duhbears23
They’re about to make Verdansk in fortnite aren’t they?
CrzyJek
Sub tick rate servers. Hell, they had 60 tick rate servers 20 years ago.
Meanwhile CoD with their 20 tick rate servers in 2023…
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It’s a good thing they made a completely new game instead of refining the old one like every other modern game. Cod devs know best, after all.
No idea why IW went and reinvented the wheel, I don’t really care you took slide cancelling out. But so many other changes that raven made for quality of life are just gone.
This is just what [I was talking about hours ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/11y2d4x/maybe_at_least_a_test_run/jd7m4m8/) in an other thread. And after my little rage there, I see the [csgo2 news](https://www.counter-strike.net/cs2). Other than hyped for CSGO, it’s just an other kick in the nuts.
This is exactly why you release a sequel. You remake things from the ground up that have been problems for years, and you couldn’t change without fundamentally changing the engine. Strictly improving everything you couldn’t before, without changing what makes the game at its core.
Meanwhile we got WZ2 just to have shit audio, shit servers, shit ttk, shit movement, shit snipers, and a lot of bugs. Fucking blows my mind seriously. The amount of QoL we slowly got in WZ1 they removed for WZ2 to make a clunky mess at release is a joke.
Al-mazrah should’ve been a WZ1 map with a weapon reset for MW2 weapons and some balance changes, and then keep working on WZ2 and release it in like 2025 when it’s fucking ready. Jesus christ. I’m pissed.
Crazy. They got to LEARN from Csgo and Fortnite, and I don’t mean from a game design perspective, but learn to stick to a system that works and keep on improving it like they both did in all these years. Instead of fucking create new broken game every 2 years and piss off the entire community. Warzone 1 was GOOD. Just needed some improvements, console FOV and be optimized overall.
Look at the “sub tick” techno of cs 2, looks awesome. Meanwhile stuck with clunky movement and trash servers on mw2.
Even now after all these changes, wz2 is still a downgrade to wz1
Theyll need a lot of creativity to make the game fun. 😂😂
Someone on here put it perfectly into words:
Going from WZ2 to WZ1 feels like what going from WZ1 to WZ2 should’ve felt like
It’s all about the AI! Progressive!
If I didn’t know any better and played both games without knowing their titles I would assume this is WZ1 and WZ1 was the sequel based on how much more refined it is. I just can’t believe they made all those quality of life changes and then just threw them out the window. Just an absolute waste. So much potential thrown away. I can’t imagine how much more money they would have made if competent people were in charge. Hopefully they clean house of these stupidass decision makers.
Counter Strike 2 will let you carry on using the cosmetics you already own, but they’ll look even better. That’s how you fucking do it, Activision.
I still stand by the notion that Warzone 2 was not created as a game to be played by a playerbase but as a product created to a consumer base to bolster stocks and investment. They don’t care the game is shit. They only care that you’re either buying hats or playing to fill games for the people that do buy hats. They only care about line go up. See also: Every other thing Acti-Blizzard has done in the last 10+ years
Everytime I come to this sub to check on the status of this game, it always seems like everyone is in an abusive relationship, but they don’t leave and keep telling themselves things might get better.
Since Activi$ion, IW, Raven all love blueprints so much, they should just use a blueprint for a fun successful game: Warzone1
I started playing Fortnite for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I have to say, it is a beautifully smooth running game. I definitely prefer the COD style of game, but if they could get COD to run as smooth as Fortnite we would be in for a real treat.
I think they are scrapping this WZ2 and starting over with the next release later this year. Movement gameplay will feel more like WZ 1 and then they can incorporate the yearly COD release into that WZ similar to how it was before. Atleast if they were smart. This game is toast and there isn’t as much to milk.
Hopefully valve gives Activision a masterclass in how to not fuck their game up.
And people acting like im on something saying ill definitely be playing OTHER games in the near future! Fortnites coming for CoD blood too….they already have a Domination game mode! WZ2 gonna end up going down as a turning point for CoD.
Fortnites basically letting people build CoD maps too…im telling you. FPS/BR is entering a new phase and CoD gonna get left behind. Im watching tim play fortnite right now….it looks clean as fuck!!!
“Bring your entire CS:GO inventory with you to Counter-Strike 2. Not only will you keep every item you’ve collected over the years, but they’ll all benefit from Source 2 lighting and materials. In addition to supporting legacy models and finishes, all stock weapons have been upgraded with high-resolution models, and some weapon finishes take advantage of these new models.”
Git Gud Activision,useless clowns
Activision: “We’ve heard you and will now double the bots in DMZ”
fuckin sick of the cock sucking cheaters in this game. forget features, do something about your broken anti cheat.
Warzone 2 is down bad right now. All of its competitors are having huge content drops right now. Activision is dripfeeding features that we’ve been asking for months.
I just hate that they keep doing annual releases in call of duty. I wish they would support their titles for 2-3 years at least. Hoping they don’t release Warzone 3. They should’ve separated WZ2 and multiplayer, gun balancing is an issue that affects both games when the meta in multiplayer is a lot different than in BR
I switched to 120hz on my series x and the game runs fine and is so much smoother but it’s so fucking blurry beyond like 50 meters.
Maybe I’m an idiot and it’s user error but I feel like I’ve tried everything on the console side and the monitor side. HDR and no HDR.
And obviously the audio is atrocious.
Counter-Strike 2 and Fortnite Chapter 4 are sequels made entirely from the ground up from their previous iterations while retaining the content, quality and cosmetics so *everything* players learned, earned and bought transferred over with no effort
Warzone 2 did none of that and has suffered greatly for it all.
This WILL go down as a massive lesson for any other company that tries to do what Call of Duty did
PUBG so dead it doesn’t even get mentioned 🥲
I’m just dumbfounded at how awful the gunplay is. How did they make a sequel this much worse? The UI is awful, the gunsmith is terrible, every gun feels exactly the same.
They’re about to make Verdansk in fortnite aren’t they?
Sub tick rate servers. Hell, they had 60 tick rate servers 20 years ago.
Meanwhile CoD with their 20 tick rate servers in 2023…