Used to play Warzone 1 for hours til the AM now I haven’t even touched Warzone 2.0 in days and when I do play a game I’m usually bored after 1.
ITheInfamousI
I have a Warzone group chat among a bunch of friends and it has been a ghost town.
BugsyMalone_
Every time me and my friends play a session, we come off liking the game less and less.
Chicken_Fingers777
Devs are actually brain dead, legit took away everything that made WZ1 fun, theyāre so out of touch, only good addition theyāve made is proximity chat
captainsmokey507
This isnt exactly shocking. Just a glance at your own friends list, while obviously a small sample, how many are still playing WZ2?
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Mine went from 23 people to about 5. Of that 5, 4 are about ready to quit, they are hopeful resurgence drops and they can recapture some of that fun…it better hurry up lol.
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This will be very anecdotal, some people may really like this and have lots of people online, so grain of salt.
Douglas1994
My online friends has dropped from ~15-20 regularly online to peaking at 3-4.
leanlikeakickstand
Not surprising at all. At least anecdotally my squad is not having fun. My friendās list is dwindling as well.
The game is just clunky. Everything about it is slow as fuck. Sprinting, reloading, plating, throwing lethals, doing any action at all is painfully slow. The map is huge and takes a long time to get around. There are long periods of dead time where there is nothing happening and seemingly no one around.
Then in stark contrast to that we have a blazing fast ttk. So quick you literally canāt blink before you die. It doesnāt at all fit with the slow ass game play and thereās this weird sense of disconnect.
Like you spend ages looting and moving to a location only to get instantly deleted by some dude adsed in a bathroom, or someone sprinting up behind you that somehow makes absolutely zero noise.
Itās just not fun. If they donāt make some changes soon I think this game is going to slowly die.
PulseFH
I genuinely hope this game bombs so IWs geriatric game design is finally put to bed
tmac416
I mean hop on Caldera for 1 game and you realize just how badly they butchered wz2. Nothing about WZ1 transferred over. It blew my mind how diffrent it felt and itās only been 2 months since I played it. I was like āthis is the game I loved! Holy shit! Why didnāt they take this and transfer it to Al MazrahāLike I realized I didnāt appreciate how good of a state that game was in at the end. Needless to say my squad and I and have played easily way less on WZ2 than WZ1. The group chat is also way quieter now. Iād say once a week someoneās like hey letās do some battling
Fluid_Season_7897
My biggest beef with WZ1 was the slide cancelling and no FOV slicer for console. If they brought back wz1, took away slide canceling and added a FOV slider for the series x/s and got rid of that nasty caldera map and brought back verdansk or shit, just put that on Al mazrah. Or even better have verdansk and Al mazrah and rotate the maps every day or week. Why they cut themselves off at the knees and take away a map like verdansk is beyond me.
Th3FinalKing
What’s the point of Warzone when the ttk matches MP. I’m having fun playing MP. We want thrill and action all the time. Something warzone campfest never gives us
ctamoe89
Been telling people on the this sub this for a little while now and nobody wanted to believe it. One look at SteamCharts and youād see the player base decreasing every single day. Even if itās only one platform, itās a greater representation of what the other platforms are most likely feeling as well.
BayouKev
Itās completely broken, how did it even get released
manhaterxxx
Iām very casual and play DMZ because Iām a big plunder fan. I still have fun but itās not the same.
The one person Iād constantly play WZ1 with now chooses fucking PGA Golf over Warzone.
kingofnothinatall
Good. The changes they made from WZ all are trash. The person who decided to change the gulag to this monstrosity should never be allowed to work in the industry again.
As a someone who loves sniping in CoD, them deciding 0 recoil rifles and LMGs can kill in 150ms but snipers can’t 1 shot… I hope their game burns
awdsrock
I played maybe 2hrs this week, before I used to play 2 a day minimum. At this point I could give 2 Fs if they fix anything. Facts are this game is trash to any real COD connoisseur.
PercySledge
Rebirth rebirth rebirth.
Hoosiers02
They have essentially ignored the game for a month now. I get people take time off over the holidays, but for a company the size of Activision that is incomprehensible and negligent.
Sometimes I wonder if they are trying to lose money.
Phannfan
I can confirm,I had a buddy that I met online on WZ1. We became close friends through wz1,he will be on everyday late at night. Since WZ2 he started playing less and less. The last time he login to battle net was 20 days ago if I look under his username!!
MhrisCac
Literally used to lose sleep over Warzone 1. We would play till 1-2am binging that game. Just everything was so much fun. The vehicles, the little things like the music in them, the ability to fuck around and have fun far more than you can in this game. Man I donāt even know, I know you all know. I just wish they would do right by the community and bring it back. Why leave Caldera open to play and waste servers on WZ1 but not bring back any of the maps people ACTUALLY loved to play?! Such a waste of creativity and content that itās justā¦ goneā¦ like canāt even go in and play with bots or buddies offline.
duk-er-us
haven’t played in almost 3 weeks and not missing it tbh
freeadviceforiw
Here’s what they need to do, and could do without overhauling the whole game:
1. Increase ttk, possibly 300 overall health. This is essential. Close/mid range on caldera feels perfect, long range a bit too slow.
2. Allow sprinting while plating, and make the sliding faster and more instantaneous (to evade and get to cover, you still can’t fire or cancel the slide). At the moment it’s like the devs saw the movement issues in wz1 and threw the baby out with the bathwater.
3. Decrease sprint to fire time, decrease ads time, and increase strafe speed.
4. Decrease aim assist slightly, but also decrease visual recoil. At the moment the gunfights do not feel satisfying, youre just kind of locked onto a player model you can’t really see due to visual noise.
All the points above would avoid the manic stim slide cancel movement of wz1, but allow for some movement outplayability, while still rewarding gunskill and positioning.
5. Fix audio.
6. Revert to wz1 looting and inventory. This is a prime example of devs ignoring what made wz1 so popular with this change, especially among casuals – the accessibility and smoothness of the gameplay.
7. Revert to wz1 armour system. Currently rng nonsense.
8. Limit bots, limit the importance of strongholds. Loadout accessibility is important to casual players.
9. Simplify the gulag.
10. Ensure greater potential for regain. More money, better buy station distribution.
11. Improve UI/UX/HUD, both for clarity and aesthetics – armour hitmarkers, for example, or the downed notification, or pings. Nothing visually pops in this game, everything’s just bland and small.
Honourable mention to weapon levelling/attachment unlocks and how it relates to mp has to be looked at – I can’t see it working for casual players.
This game is currently not fun. Hardly any players, of any skill level, want to feel like there is limited potential to do anything cool or notable. It is so obvious to the majority of the playerbase what made wz1 so popular – again, *particularly* to casual players, but apparently the devs are clueless.
Ben_Sivens
This sub will tell you everything is fine and that streamers and people with legitimate complaints are just whiny and that the majority of people like the game.
This game has multiple major flaws that make it unplayable and not enticing to play.
– The UI is legitimately shit. Itās so hard to navigate, everything is so big only 3 items fit on the screen at a time. The store is awful to look at. Go open WZ1 and see how much cleaner the UI and store are. Itās a sin they released this UI.
– I donāt know what you want to call it but the gameplay loop is boring. Thereās so much dead time mid game, regains are near impossible, and how fast loot despawns makes any comeback near impossible.
– The game mechanics are trash. No Iām not talking about slide canceling Iām taking about every other mechanics. STF, ADS, strafing, the visual recoil on the guns and all the smoke from the muzzle. TTK is pooched and even made worse with this 3 plate vest bullshit.
– performance is terrible. Between crashes and general optimization. I was getting 160 FPS on WZ1 and that was considered unoptimized. Iām lucky to get 120 on WZ2.
– This goes back to game mechanics but everything is so clunky. The way you run, reload, jump thru windows. Donāt even get me going on how bad the mantle system is in the game. WZ1 felt so fluid with how responsive everything was. This game feels like youāre playing on a delay.
– They removed all the QOL changes they implemented in WZ1 and itās noticeable. Before people say āoh it took 2 years for WZ1 to get where it was give it timeā no thatās a BS excuse. This is supposed to be a sequel. They should be bringing those changes and then some, Not starting over.
– The looting is trash. WZ1 had this perfect except the loot piling on top of itself but they could just make the drop area bigger instead of this Tetris backpack shit.
This game just isnāt fun to play. My group of friends played WZ religiously every day and did the same with rebirth because we didnāt like Caldera but the game play was fun. Weāve actually been playing Caldera recently even tho the map sucks because the game itself is way more enjoyable.
I hope they can fix it but thereās so many things they need to change that I donāt think they will.
NewToReddit4331
Used to play 3-4 hours a night with the squad, now we play 1-2 hours every few days. This game doesnāt have the same fun to it.
Ttk is way too fast.
No resurgence mode
Bad netcode/ping/servers
Slow clunky movement
This game needs some changes quick
apathynext
Wait. Everyone here told me that…with literally ALL evidence pointing to a disaster launch and interest declining…all of us saying that are full of crap and we don’t play tactical enough. Amazing.
U_Arent_Special
The game fails in nearly every way: movement, ping system, blinding smoke when shooting, gulag, map building density, overpowered aim assist, nearly all qol missing from Warzone 1, expensive loadouts, lack of money on the ground, terrible vehicle physics, horrible positional audio, crashing, presence of AI, weapon progression system, looting system,terrible netcode etc etc. It is a fucking trainwreck.
Activision figured they could dumb Warzone 2 down completely and the casuals would fork out $$ but the opposite happened. The casuals moved on to other games because thats what they do. The core gamers never accepted Warzone 2 and quit early on. It basically has the few delusional players left that are inhaling massive copium thinking Activision will turn things around when they clearly wont.
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Big changes coming
Used to play Warzone 1 for hours til the AM now I haven’t even touched Warzone 2.0 in days and when I do play a game I’m usually bored after 1.
I have a Warzone group chat among a bunch of friends and it has been a ghost town.
Every time me and my friends play a session, we come off liking the game less and less.
Devs are actually brain dead, legit took away everything that made WZ1 fun, theyāre so out of touch, only good addition theyāve made is proximity chat
This isnt exactly shocking. Just a glance at your own friends list, while obviously a small sample, how many are still playing WZ2?
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Mine went from 23 people to about 5. Of that 5, 4 are about ready to quit, they are hopeful resurgence drops and they can recapture some of that fun…it better hurry up lol.
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This will be very anecdotal, some people may really like this and have lots of people online, so grain of salt.
My online friends has dropped from ~15-20 regularly online to peaking at 3-4.
Not surprising at all. At least anecdotally my squad is not having fun. My friendās list is dwindling as well.
The game is just clunky. Everything about it is slow as fuck. Sprinting, reloading, plating, throwing lethals, doing any action at all is painfully slow. The map is huge and takes a long time to get around. There are long periods of dead time where there is nothing happening and seemingly no one around.
Then in stark contrast to that we have a blazing fast ttk. So quick you literally canāt blink before you die. It doesnāt at all fit with the slow ass game play and thereās this weird sense of disconnect.
Like you spend ages looting and moving to a location only to get instantly deleted by some dude adsed in a bathroom, or someone sprinting up behind you that somehow makes absolutely zero noise.
Itās just not fun. If they donāt make some changes soon I think this game is going to slowly die.
I genuinely hope this game bombs so IWs geriatric game design is finally put to bed
I mean hop on Caldera for 1 game and you realize just how badly they butchered wz2. Nothing about WZ1 transferred over. It blew my mind how diffrent it felt and itās only been 2 months since I played it. I was like āthis is the game I loved! Holy shit! Why didnāt they take this and transfer it to Al MazrahāLike I realized I didnāt appreciate how good of a state that game was in at the end. Needless to say my squad and I and have played easily way less on WZ2 than WZ1. The group chat is also way quieter now. Iād say once a week someoneās like hey letās do some battling
My biggest beef with WZ1 was the slide cancelling and no FOV slicer for console. If they brought back wz1, took away slide canceling and added a FOV slider for the series x/s and got rid of that nasty caldera map and brought back verdansk or shit, just put that on Al mazrah. Or even better have verdansk and Al mazrah and rotate the maps every day or week. Why they cut themselves off at the knees and take away a map like verdansk is beyond me.
What’s the point of Warzone when the ttk matches MP. I’m having fun playing MP. We want thrill and action all the time. Something warzone campfest never gives us
Been telling people on the this sub this for a little while now and nobody wanted to believe it. One look at SteamCharts and youād see the player base decreasing every single day. Even if itās only one platform, itās a greater representation of what the other platforms are most likely feeling as well.
Itās completely broken, how did it even get released
Iām very casual and play DMZ because Iām a big plunder fan. I still have fun but itās not the same.
The one person Iād constantly play WZ1 with now chooses fucking PGA Golf over Warzone.
Good. The changes they made from WZ all are trash. The person who decided to change the gulag to this monstrosity should never be allowed to work in the industry again.
As a someone who loves sniping in CoD, them deciding 0 recoil rifles and LMGs can kill in 150ms but snipers can’t 1 shot… I hope their game burns
I played maybe 2hrs this week, before I used to play 2 a day minimum. At this point I could give 2 Fs if they fix anything. Facts are this game is trash to any real COD connoisseur.
Rebirth rebirth rebirth.
They have essentially ignored the game for a month now. I get people take time off over the holidays, but for a company the size of Activision that is incomprehensible and negligent.
Sometimes I wonder if they are trying to lose money.
I can confirm,I had a buddy that I met online on WZ1. We became close friends through wz1,he will be on everyday late at night. Since WZ2 he started playing less and less. The last time he login to battle net was 20 days ago if I look under his username!!
Literally used to lose sleep over Warzone 1. We would play till 1-2am binging that game. Just everything was so much fun. The vehicles, the little things like the music in them, the ability to fuck around and have fun far more than you can in this game. Man I donāt even know, I know you all know. I just wish they would do right by the community and bring it back. Why leave Caldera open to play and waste servers on WZ1 but not bring back any of the maps people ACTUALLY loved to play?! Such a waste of creativity and content that itās justā¦ goneā¦ like canāt even go in and play with bots or buddies offline.
haven’t played in almost 3 weeks and not missing it tbh
Here’s what they need to do, and could do without overhauling the whole game:
1. Increase ttk, possibly 300 overall health. This is essential. Close/mid range on caldera feels perfect, long range a bit too slow.
2. Allow sprinting while plating, and make the sliding faster and more instantaneous (to evade and get to cover, you still can’t fire or cancel the slide). At the moment it’s like the devs saw the movement issues in wz1 and threw the baby out with the bathwater.
3. Decrease sprint to fire time, decrease ads time, and increase strafe speed.
4. Decrease aim assist slightly, but also decrease visual recoil. At the moment the gunfights do not feel satisfying, youre just kind of locked onto a player model you can’t really see due to visual noise.
All the points above would avoid the manic stim slide cancel movement of wz1, but allow for some movement outplayability, while still rewarding gunskill and positioning.
5. Fix audio.
6. Revert to wz1 looting and inventory. This is a prime example of devs ignoring what made wz1 so popular with this change, especially among casuals – the accessibility and smoothness of the gameplay.
7. Revert to wz1 armour system. Currently rng nonsense.
8. Limit bots, limit the importance of strongholds. Loadout accessibility is important to casual players.
9. Simplify the gulag.
10. Ensure greater potential for regain. More money, better buy station distribution.
11. Improve UI/UX/HUD, both for clarity and aesthetics – armour hitmarkers, for example, or the downed notification, or pings. Nothing visually pops in this game, everything’s just bland and small.
Honourable mention to weapon levelling/attachment unlocks and how it relates to mp has to be looked at – I can’t see it working for casual players.
This game is currently not fun. Hardly any players, of any skill level, want to feel like there is limited potential to do anything cool or notable. It is so obvious to the majority of the playerbase what made wz1 so popular – again, *particularly* to casual players, but apparently the devs are clueless.
This sub will tell you everything is fine and that streamers and people with legitimate complaints are just whiny and that the majority of people like the game.
This game has multiple major flaws that make it unplayable and not enticing to play.
– The UI is legitimately shit. Itās so hard to navigate, everything is so big only 3 items fit on the screen at a time. The store is awful to look at. Go open WZ1 and see how much cleaner the UI and store are. Itās a sin they released this UI.
– I donāt know what you want to call it but the gameplay loop is boring. Thereās so much dead time mid game, regains are near impossible, and how fast loot despawns makes any comeback near impossible.
– The game mechanics are trash. No Iām not talking about slide canceling Iām taking about every other mechanics. STF, ADS, strafing, the visual recoil on the guns and all the smoke from the muzzle. TTK is pooched and even made worse with this 3 plate vest bullshit.
– performance is terrible. Between crashes and general optimization. I was getting 160 FPS on WZ1 and that was considered unoptimized. Iām lucky to get 120 on WZ2.
– This goes back to game mechanics but everything is so clunky. The way you run, reload, jump thru windows. Donāt even get me going on how bad the mantle system is in the game. WZ1 felt so fluid with how responsive everything was. This game feels like youāre playing on a delay.
– They removed all the QOL changes they implemented in WZ1 and itās noticeable. Before people say āoh it took 2 years for WZ1 to get where it was give it timeā no thatās a BS excuse. This is supposed to be a sequel. They should be bringing those changes and then some, Not starting over.
– The looting is trash. WZ1 had this perfect except the loot piling on top of itself but they could just make the drop area bigger instead of this Tetris backpack shit.
This game just isnāt fun to play. My group of friends played WZ religiously every day and did the same with rebirth because we didnāt like Caldera but the game play was fun. Weāve actually been playing Caldera recently even tho the map sucks because the game itself is way more enjoyable.
I hope they can fix it but thereās so many things they need to change that I donāt think they will.
Used to play 3-4 hours a night with the squad, now we play 1-2 hours every few days. This game doesnāt have the same fun to it.
Ttk is way too fast.
No resurgence mode
Bad netcode/ping/servers
Slow clunky movement
This game needs some changes quick
Wait. Everyone here told me that…with literally ALL evidence pointing to a disaster launch and interest declining…all of us saying that are full of crap and we don’t play tactical enough. Amazing.
The game fails in nearly every way: movement, ping system, blinding smoke when shooting, gulag, map building density, overpowered aim assist, nearly all qol missing from Warzone 1, expensive loadouts, lack of money on the ground, terrible vehicle physics, horrible positional audio, crashing, presence of AI, weapon progression system, looting system,terrible netcode etc etc. It is a fucking trainwreck.
Activision figured they could dumb Warzone 2 down completely and the casuals would fork out $$ but the opposite happened. The casuals moved on to other games because thats what they do. The core gamers never accepted Warzone 2 and quit early on. It basically has the few delusional players left that are inhaling massive copium thinking Activision will turn things around when they clearly wont.