No one asked for this, maybe they should focus on getting windows on arm right or the time they wasted on this could have put towards their arm translation layer.
six_six
I just want an OS.
Accomplished_Tip3597
Yeah no surprise. Companies need to understand that people are annoyed with these buggy AIs that they try to shove everybody into the face
Fun_Newt3841
Copiolt can go fuck itself. I don;t see any of the features as useful.
KingFurykiller
There is nothing they can do to improve any of my workflows. I require a high degree of specificity and accuracy. I have decades of optimizing my settings and shortcuts to support this.
When AI can do things like “open my productivity apps” or “grab my last browsing session for topic XYZ”, maybe ‘apply my default theme to this new PowerPoint and set of graphs’ or “import all my custom settings and install necessary apps” and get these right, the maybe. Right now it’s too powerless.
And maybe it should be. Right now it’s all shareholder bait right now
AshuraBaron
It doesn’t help how limited it was when they first started rolling out. Having x86 versions definitely helps. But ARM adoption will take time. It’s been 5 years for Apple and they are still struggling to get everyone to make native ports. They have the major players covered but it’s always edge cases that play the biggest factor and give users pause. Microsoft definitely need to create a way for users to build their own CoPilot+PC’s too. Right now I HAVE to buy a new computer to get it. When it really doesn’t need to be case.
gbroon
Problem is all these AI devices being sold with the “selling point” of AI when most of the people they are trying to sell to aren’t really even sold on AI yet.
Strange-Scarcity
Good.
I hope all of this investment in AI bullshit starts REALLY hurting the corporations and business that went all in on it and we start hearing about Fire Sales of AI “ready” server racks and systems as those data centers start being shutdown.
It’s all an environmental menace.
-Ocelot_79-
It use it on my work PC, it’s alright. Wouldn’t want it on my personal desktop though lol
Location-Actual
Unless you’re a CEO you have not asked for AI slop. A .CEO would think he’s saving lots by using AI. Tech bros like Jensen are loving it.
Cab_anon
What is it?
Pessimistic_Gemini
whichsideisup
My new laptop is “CoPilot+” or whatever but I will never enable Recall and their other spyware garbage.
FewAdvertising9647
the problem with AI is that a majority of it is done over the cloud, so there was no real reason to have the NPU on the processors.
Like if you asked an average pc user which applications actually use the INT8 performance of their new processors, most people couldn’t even name 3, let alone even 1 probably. Thats how underutilized it was. 0 killer app.
TheeFURNAS
Good!
Nowhereman50
Yeah it’s great when it bothers me over and over again to use it.
Jeoshua
It’s literally just a button, isn’t it? Just Ctrl+Alt+Hyper+Meta+F22 or some shit, which calls up a cloud based AI interface. Why would that *not* flop?
GrossBeat420
vGPU_Enjoyer
Overally I don’t know why I would want to AI be integrated like this into OS.
1. Ai interference is faster on Linux because lack of bloat and possibility to disable GUI.
2. If I want I can install ollama on ms Windows or other interference engine not some proprietary garbage to be forced to my throat.
ExistingAd7929
Eventually tech companies will realize, not everyone wants ai or even cares about it. It shouldn’t be a default feature but an option instead.
Desperate-Intern
ThatFabio
Microsoft insists on making random AI stuff instead of making a decent sleep function and ARM implementation. Like at this point I am stuck on a MacBook thanks to Microsoft instead of Apple
Jamie00003
Oh that’s a shame. Microsoft better get to adding more ad tracking, that’ll show them peasant users
flappers87
Good
This was such an obvious rush to market cash grab to try and earn back some of the literal billions they’ve been throwing at AI.
AI is not profitable for big tech at this stage, and I hope it continues like that.
The only people actually making good profit from AI are ironically indie developers selling their AI startups to big tech.
stupefy100
I hate how they try to integrate copilot everywhere. If you fucking right click on edge they added a copilot option
jaykstah
Mind blowing that the thing nobody asked for and immediately clowned on isn’t a success lol
rarodgers
good.
IKindaPlayEVE
This really feels too “inside baseball” for the average consumer. I would bet the real answer here has far less to do with Copilot than the article is trying indicate.
planelander
Good, nobody asked for that crap.
Wander715
These companies are gonna go into full panic mode realizing the vast majority of people don’t give a fuck about the AI tools they paid billions for.
thecrius
the problem is not AI, it’s that the average Joe has no use for it.
Velkaryian
I have never seen a technology forced upon a population that clearly does not want it like AI has been.
Seriously, nobody wants this shit. It’s bloated, it’s a resource hog, violates your own privacy, scrapes your data, etc.
Clip Studio tried to implement it and the community overwhelmingly and vocally told them “no.” And guess what, they didn’t.
Anytime I hear the phrase “I asked ChatGPT” it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. AI speech patterns are so easy to detect it’s fairly obvious when a Reddit post was just made with GPT, and even in the art world, AI still can’t understand basic things like proportion or shading/lighting.
kristmace
They need to focus on making Windows 12 fantastic. 11 is garbage.
Moquai82
tiny-starship
Hi there, I see your downloading an illegal movie, just like I did, but it’s against the law for you. I’m contacting the fbi. Is there anything else I can help you with?
OMG_NoReally
Microsoft has done a remarkably shitty job promoting and explaining just how Copilot+ benefits. As a tech enthusiast, I am still not clear. All I really know is that Copilot+ comes forcefully installed on Windows 11 and you can use it to ask questions, but it’s quarter as effective as ChatGPT, the UI sucks, and doesn’t have any features. There are smattering of Copilot+ features scattered over other apps but there is no cohesiveness in messaging. People simply don’t know and now, can’t be bothered.
Compare this to how well Apple marketed Apple Intelligence and how much attention and hype it got. It was easy to understand what it was offering, even though they have failed to make anything meaningful out of it so far.
Also, man, if people already have a decent laptop, you don’t need a “Copilot+ PC” do use the AI features. it will still work and just as well.
tiramisucks
I am not sure what copilot + pc was supposed to achieve. More sales? You don’t need a new pc to access llms. What am I missing?
TheSpottedBuffy
Still blows my mind people think Apple blew it on Apple Intelligence
Microsoft went too hard too fast
Per usual with Microsoft
NA_0_10_never_forget
Turns out corpos deluded themselves into thinking average people goon over AI as much as those corpos/investors do. Surprised Pikachu face.
Deses
Pretends to be shocked.
I hope Microsoft realizes that most people just want an usable OS with the minimal amount of bullshit pre-installed.
45 Comments
no shit
Keep your spyware, Microsoft
Good
Windows Debloat by Chris Titus. That is all.
good
I’m shocked to the bone.
No one asked for this, maybe they should focus on getting windows on arm right or the time they wasted on this could have put towards their arm translation layer.
I just want an OS.
Yeah no surprise. Companies need to understand that people are annoyed with these buggy AIs that they try to shove everybody into the face
Copiolt can go fuck itself. I don;t see any of the features as useful.
There is nothing they can do to improve any of my workflows. I require a high degree of specificity and accuracy. I have decades of optimizing my settings and shortcuts to support this.
When AI can do things like “open my productivity apps” or “grab my last browsing session for topic XYZ”, maybe ‘apply my default theme to this new PowerPoint and set of graphs’ or “import all my custom settings and install necessary apps” and get these right, the maybe. Right now it’s too powerless.
And maybe it should be. Right now it’s all shareholder bait right now
It doesn’t help how limited it was when they first started rolling out. Having x86 versions definitely helps. But ARM adoption will take time. It’s been 5 years for Apple and they are still struggling to get everyone to make native ports. They have the major players covered but it’s always edge cases that play the biggest factor and give users pause. Microsoft definitely need to create a way for users to build their own CoPilot+PC’s too. Right now I HAVE to buy a new computer to get it. When it really doesn’t need to be case.
Problem is all these AI devices being sold with the “selling point” of AI when most of the people they are trying to sell to aren’t really even sold on AI yet.
Good.
I hope all of this investment in AI bullshit starts REALLY hurting the corporations and business that went all in on it and we start hearing about Fire Sales of AI “ready” server racks and systems as those data centers start being shutdown.
It’s all an environmental menace.
It use it on my work PC, it’s alright. Wouldn’t want it on my personal desktop though lol
Unless you’re a CEO you have not asked for AI slop. A .CEO would think he’s saving lots by using AI. Tech bros like Jensen are loving it.
What is it?
My new laptop is “CoPilot+” or whatever but I will never enable Recall and their other spyware garbage.
the problem with AI is that a majority of it is done over the cloud, so there was no real reason to have the NPU on the processors.
Like if you asked an average pc user which applications actually use the INT8 performance of their new processors, most people couldn’t even name 3, let alone even 1 probably. Thats how underutilized it was. 0 killer app.
Good!
Yeah it’s great when it bothers me over and over again to use it.
It’s literally just a button, isn’t it? Just Ctrl+Alt+Hyper+Meta+F22 or some shit, which calls up a cloud based AI interface. Why would that *not* flop?
Overally I don’t know why I would want to AI be integrated like this into OS.
1. Ai interference is faster on Linux because lack of bloat and possibility to disable GUI.
2. If I want I can install ollama on ms Windows or other interference engine not some proprietary garbage to be forced to my throat.
Eventually tech companies will realize, not everyone wants ai or even cares about it. It shouldn’t be a default feature but an option instead.
Microsoft insists on making random AI stuff instead of making a decent sleep function and ARM implementation. Like at this point I am stuck on a MacBook thanks to Microsoft instead of Apple
Oh that’s a shame. Microsoft better get to adding more ad tracking, that’ll show them peasant users
Good
This was such an obvious rush to market cash grab to try and earn back some of the literal billions they’ve been throwing at AI.
AI is not profitable for big tech at this stage, and I hope it continues like that.
The only people actually making good profit from AI are ironically indie developers selling their AI startups to big tech.
I hate how they try to integrate copilot everywhere. If you fucking right click on edge they added a copilot option
Mind blowing that the thing nobody asked for and immediately clowned on isn’t a success lol
good.
This really feels too “inside baseball” for the average consumer. I would bet the real answer here has far less to do with Copilot than the article is trying indicate.
Good, nobody asked for that crap.
These companies are gonna go into full panic mode realizing the vast majority of people don’t give a fuck about the AI tools they paid billions for.
the problem is not AI, it’s that the average Joe has no use for it.
I have never seen a technology forced upon a population that clearly does not want it like AI has been.
Seriously, nobody wants this shit. It’s bloated, it’s a resource hog, violates your own privacy, scrapes your data, etc.
Clip Studio tried to implement it and the community overwhelmingly and vocally told them “no.” And guess what, they didn’t.
Anytime I hear the phrase “I asked ChatGPT” it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. AI speech patterns are so easy to detect it’s fairly obvious when a Reddit post was just made with GPT, and even in the art world, AI still can’t understand basic things like proportion or shading/lighting.
They need to focus on making Windows 12 fantastic. 11 is garbage.
Hi there, I see your downloading an illegal movie, just like I did, but it’s against the law for you. I’m contacting the fbi. Is there anything else I can help you with?
Microsoft has done a remarkably shitty job promoting and explaining just how Copilot+ benefits. As a tech enthusiast, I am still not clear. All I really know is that Copilot+ comes forcefully installed on Windows 11 and you can use it to ask questions, but it’s quarter as effective as ChatGPT, the UI sucks, and doesn’t have any features. There are smattering of Copilot+ features scattered over other apps but there is no cohesiveness in messaging. People simply don’t know and now, can’t be bothered.
Compare this to how well Apple marketed Apple Intelligence and how much attention and hype it got. It was easy to understand what it was offering, even though they have failed to make anything meaningful out of it so far.
Also, man, if people already have a decent laptop, you don’t need a “Copilot+ PC” do use the AI features. it will still work and just as well.
I am not sure what copilot + pc was supposed to achieve. More sales? You don’t need a new pc to access llms. What am I missing?
Still blows my mind people think Apple blew it on Apple Intelligence
Microsoft went too hard too fast
Per usual with Microsoft
Turns out corpos deluded themselves into thinking average people goon over AI as much as those corpos/investors do. Surprised Pikachu face.
Pretends to be shocked.
I hope Microsoft realizes that most people just want an usable OS with the minimal amount of bullshit pre-installed.