steel: “Any tier 1 team from 5 years ago would laugh at how these games are playing out”
steel: “Any tier 1 team from 5 years ago would laugh at how these games are playing out”
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Engagement farming. Maybe back it up with data instead
thats what you call “delusion”
bro needs to hop on the server with donk so we can see what a pro from 5 years ago can really do
bros still mad he got caught
Damn we got oldheads vs newgens debate in CS too now
This is the best abd the worst times for cs esports at the same time
A ton of teams with poor fundamentals are now getting clapped by teams who did their homework.
I don’t think this should be controversial, the skill level across the top 10 took a noticeable dip after the pandemic and has been slowly recovering ever since. The top S tier teams are still at a very high level.
People think that the scene just constantly improves at some linear level, but it jumps and drops all the time. Very few of our top teams are beating Astralis from five years ago. They were literally the best team of all time.
I say a noticeable dip in quality, but many people didn’t notice, just see donk hitting headshots and think that’s all there is to CS.
Watch the matches, watch the spacing and trading, the team flashes, the smokes that pop in strange places, retakes petering out, teams losing track of time.
Proper, good, high level CS won’t start until day two of the playoffs.
give this man another 10 years ban.
tier 1 teams 5 years ago were busy being fed info by their coach
please bring back mr15
mr12 is not for awper
Who’s gonna tell Steel that he’s skill-issued since he was born ?
mr12 is awful for pro scene
Gameplay still better than iBuyPower tho
is steel becoming hltv baiter? nice b8 m8 8/8
Everyone seen Donk and started thinking they need more firepower and that might be what you need to beat spirit or vitality but a well organised smaller team will exploit you.
Yeah gross like match fixing. Bro could not win anything big so he had to resolve to this.
I think this is bullshit and steel may be mad his pickems flopped.
This was such an obvious advent of reducing the total number of rounds… The better team has less chances to stop snowballs.
When they announced these, under the justification that “we need to make games faster” I suggested a better way to do it:
1. Reduce freezetime by 2-4 seconds
2. Reduce post roundtime by 0.5 to 1.5 seconds
3. Reduce round-time by 5 seconds
4. Reduce smoke, molotv and flashbang durations by the equivalent % of round time has been reduced.
This would have zero effect on the economy, games would be faster-paced and thus more enjoyable to watch, and the total number of rounds would remain unchanged at MR15 with 16 to win as it has been since CS 1.3
Cope
yeah and teams ten years ago were throwing games for money/skins…. wait a second….
I agree, they need to try to knife more
MR12 + cs2’s jank = haha! gameplay
Not disagreeing with him, but the CS schedule throughout a calendar year feels like it’s changed quite a lot in the last 5 years. It’s pretty insane to think Aurora flew from Astana to Dallas in the time that they did. Top teams have a lot less time to practice and develop new ideas in between tournaments. Tier 2 teams have endless demos and probably more time to study the Tier 1 teams. It should be significantly easier to anti-strat and develop plays that have a high rate of success. Combine this with top teams potentially trying to ego their way through the ‘lesser’ teams alongside MR13 and you have a recipe for disaster. Win pistol round, but lose the conversion in the following round and you can be in economic hell for an entire map.
I don’t know. I feel like there are more variables to consider outside of top teams not failing the fundamentals.
Also, man, some these ‘lesser’ teams have got some real diamonds in terms of players. It’s super exciting to be a counter-strike fan right now.
you may hate me but bring back mr15. the eco is based for 30 rounds not 24. and trying to speed up gameplay by making the maps smaller and less rounds is ruining the game.
also fix the ct molly.
5 years ago, fucking BIG were ranked #1 in the world, heroic too.
Both of the cores are washed and age isn’t even that big of a factor. Hell, the BIG core was washed by 2022. Only XANTARES is playing at a high level and he was at his mechanical peak in 2024.
OR, just, maybe, some teams are coming in hot from playing and winning games in the last week and some teams are cold and need to warm into the tournament.
steel getting hard when EU elite fails. I’m surprised. /s
bo1 make the random factor of the speedy / run&gun game that cs2 is compared to csgo more obvious. It makes little sense to compare bo1 in mr15 csgo to mr12 cs2, but here we are 🤡
„Lets get rid of proper IGL‘s for more Firepower“
„Oh no they had counter strats, nothing we could have done there“
It’s probably more than 5 years ago but I think his point is quite simple, organised structured tactics-based CS has taken a backseat for the flashier “donk go kill” playstyle because of the sheer firepower talent that has risen in the last few years.
He’s probably still romanticizing the Astralis era which was heavy on incredible calling and innovative executes (for the time).
Steel is so confident in that statement that he’s willing to bet skins on it