Yes but how does the 1 MHz Atari do at passing the bar?
Important-Isopod-123
This is not a suprise at all lol
LapsedVerneGagKnee
All that energy and it’s no match for classic wood grain consoles.
Icedvelvet
🤷
Cyniikal
Learning to play chess purely via language parsing vs symbolically playing chess nigh perfectly? Surprise surprise, the one actually playing chess plays better.
CharlieKinbote
It just like me
enp_redd
its a llm. ppl don’t know the differences
gladias9
He’s just like me fr fr
ShaquilleOrKneel
Played Tic Tac Toe against it once, it didn’t even know when the game was finished let alone which square to mark.
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OccasionallyAsleep
When “tech reporters” are tech illiterate
mfyxtplyx
I tried to repair my glasses with a pipe wrench and all I have to show for it is broken glasses.
redditsuckz99
Unk still got it 💪
SparseGhostC2C
Seth Myers gets crushed at chess by Magnus Carlsen
Yeah, that’s what happens when someone who’s job is to talk good plays chess against someone who’s whole job is to PLAY CHESS
GoodOmens182
As it should.
shemhamforash666666
Because generative AI isn’t intelligent, only artificial. You’ll need a fundamentally different model if you want an actually intelligent machine.
strongest_nerd
Now see which writes a better essay.
TheLurkingMenace
I beat my dog at chess all the time too.
Rarewear_fan
AI bros….we lost
Imnimo
This is a news article about a LinkedIn post?
Ok-Walk-8040
Talk the talk vs walk the walk.
merc08
People laughing at the absurd setup are missing the fundamental problem – that there are people for whom this outcome is surprising because they think ChatGPT is true General Artificial Intelligence, not just a glorified next word predictor.
Don’t just throw this article away, keep it in your back pocket for when someone claims “CharGPT said ____ so that must be true.”
Sumsarg
For those who had not seen it yet, I highly recommend grabbing some popcorn:
I asked chat gpt to help me with chess once and it had no idea what it was doing
Oni_K
So what part of an LLM is designed to recognise the board state as it evolves, and react accordingly? Oh… none. right.
You can feed ChatGPT a positional problem and it will fail within two to three moves because it doesn’t remember the board state. Similarly, it’s shit at solving a Sudoku puzzle. These simply aren’t tasks it’s built for.
Might as well write an article about how a Honda Civic can haul more groceries than a Formula 1 car. It’s equally as relevant.
lebenklon
We need more of this to prove to people the “thinking intelligence” aspect of AI tools is a lot of marketing
BillCosbysAltoidTin
I guess I’m naive, but I would think that there are some very common strategies (or even very complex strategies) published all over the internet that ChatGPT could reference.
Is it related to in inability to put every single potential situation into text? If that were to happen, could it become much better?
Benozkleenex
I mean it is useful when you talk to someone who believes ChatGPT can’t be wrong.
Wander715
When will people realize that LLMs have virtually no ability to think or problem solve? It’s not an AGI like a lot of the general public thinks it is.
sopedound
Chatgpt does not actually reason at all it just picks the most probable words. Idk why anyone would’ve thought that would make it good at chess.
throwawaythatpa
This is a weird headline because modern chess engines are AI and built on an LLM.
unpluggedcord
Yes because gpt is not an AI. It’s an llm
KerbolExplorer
The computer specifically made to win at chess looses against a multi purpose LLM.
Would have never known
BubbaYoshi117
ChatGPT isn’t a genius. ChatGPT isn’t a chess master. ChatGPT is a politician. It says things that sound good in a confident voice to make you feel good. That’s what LLMs do.
WhatsMyNameAGlen
Is this just battle bots but for the distinguished?
Imnimo
I just tried this, and ChatGPT played a perfectly reasonable game with no illegal moves and won easily against the Atari:
We should be suspicious of the fact that ChatGPT’s abilities are dependent on the format of the game (it can play from standard notation, but not from screenshots), but it’s a surprisingly capable chess player for a next-token predictor.
Fskn
Stupid article
Chess bot beats non chess bot at chess
ga-co
Now have the Atari write a 500 word essay.
faunalmimicry
‘I beat my fridge at chess’ like yeah that’s not what it’s for
GeorgeMKnowles
This is proof that ai can’t do anything because only a super bad computer software would lose to an Atari. All that other stuff ai does ain’t impressive because no matter what it does, it can’t even do chess. All Ai is dumb and bad and useless forever, proven by science.
CHECKMATE, AI!!!
(See what I did there??)
Pewp-dawg
Is this why ChatGPT crashed!? Did… did it rage quit?
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Yes but how does the 1 MHz Atari do at passing the bar?
This is not a suprise at all lol
All that energy and it’s no match for classic wood grain consoles.
🤷
Learning to play chess purely via language parsing vs symbolically playing chess nigh perfectly? Surprise surprise, the one actually playing chess plays better.
It just like me
its a llm. ppl don’t know the differences
He’s just like me fr fr
Played Tic Tac Toe against it once, it didn’t even know when the game was finished let alone which square to mark.
[deleted]
When “tech reporters” are tech illiterate
I tried to repair my glasses with a pipe wrench and all I have to show for it is broken glasses.
Unk still got it 💪
Seth Myers gets crushed at chess by Magnus Carlsen
Yeah, that’s what happens when someone who’s job is to talk good plays chess against someone who’s whole job is to PLAY CHESS
As it should.
Because generative AI isn’t intelligent, only artificial. You’ll need a fundamentally different model if you want an actually intelligent machine.
Now see which writes a better essay.
I beat my dog at chess all the time too.
AI bros….we lost
This is a news article about a LinkedIn post?
Talk the talk vs walk the walk.
People laughing at the absurd setup are missing the fundamental problem – that there are people for whom this outcome is surprising because they think ChatGPT is true General Artificial Intelligence, not just a glorified next word predictor.
Don’t just throw this article away, keep it in your back pocket for when someone claims “CharGPT said ____ so that must be true.”
For those who had not seen it yet, I highly recommend grabbing some popcorn:
https://youtu.be/rSCNW1OCk_M?si=hm6xpb7YSqvrcI0T
Just like me 😢
I asked chat gpt to help me with chess once and it had no idea what it was doing
So what part of an LLM is designed to recognise the board state as it evolves, and react accordingly? Oh… none. right.
You can feed ChatGPT a positional problem and it will fail within two to three moves because it doesn’t remember the board state. Similarly, it’s shit at solving a Sudoku puzzle. These simply aren’t tasks it’s built for.
Might as well write an article about how a Honda Civic can haul more groceries than a Formula 1 car. It’s equally as relevant.
We need more of this to prove to people the “thinking intelligence” aspect of AI tools is a lot of marketing
I guess I’m naive, but I would think that there are some very common strategies (or even very complex strategies) published all over the internet that ChatGPT could reference.
Is it related to in inability to put every single potential situation into text? If that were to happen, could it become much better?
I mean it is useful when you talk to someone who believes ChatGPT can’t be wrong.
When will people realize that LLMs have virtually no ability to think or problem solve? It’s not an AGI like a lot of the general public thinks it is.
Chatgpt does not actually reason at all it just picks the most probable words. Idk why anyone would’ve thought that would make it good at chess.
This is a weird headline because modern chess engines are AI and built on an LLM.
Yes because gpt is not an AI. It’s an llm
The computer specifically made to win at chess looses against a multi purpose LLM.
Would have never known
ChatGPT isn’t a genius. ChatGPT isn’t a chess master. ChatGPT is a politician. It says things that sound good in a confident voice to make you feel good. That’s what LLMs do.
Is this just battle bots but for the distinguished?
I just tried this, and ChatGPT played a perfectly reasonable game with no illegal moves and won easily against the Atari:
https://chatgpt.com/share/6848a027-6dc8-800f-bce3-b1fcd21187fb
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 d5 4. exd5 Qxd5 5. Nc3 Qe6 6. O-O Nf6 7. d4 Bd6 8. Re1 Ng4 9. h3 Nf6 10. d5 Nxd5 11. Nxd5 O-O 12. Bc4 Rd8 13. Ng5 Qf5 14. Bd3 Qd7 15. Bxh7+ Kh8 16. Qh5 f6 17. Bg6+ Kg8 18. Qh7+ Kf8 19. Qh8#
https://imgur.com/iosdnlF
We should be suspicious of the fact that ChatGPT’s abilities are dependent on the format of the game (it can play from standard notation, but not from screenshots), but it’s a surprisingly capable chess player for a next-token predictor.
Stupid article
Chess bot beats non chess bot at chess
Now have the Atari write a 500 word essay.
‘I beat my fridge at chess’ like yeah that’s not what it’s for
This is proof that ai can’t do anything because only a super bad computer software would lose to an Atari. All that other stuff ai does ain’t impressive because no matter what it does, it can’t even do chess. All Ai is dumb and bad and useless forever, proven by science.
CHECKMATE, AI!!!
(See what I did there??)
Is this why ChatGPT crashed!? Did… did it rage quit?