The internet is toxic, no one is surprised. Guess why most developers do not talk to the community outside of blog posts or community managers.
RaspberryBandito
And the community will wonder why Valve wants absolutely nothing to do with them
Past_Perception8052
people can’t accept not being the smartest always need to add their input that nobody asked for
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sciencepronire
The internet is bad enough but Reddit is its own echo chamber cesspool
imsorryken
The amount of people that actually think they have some insight on how the game works and throwing around the word subtick every 2nd comment is ridiculous.
There are a select few that actually do the work to try and figure it out and the devs themselves. Most people just need to stop acting all smart because they watched a 20 min youtube video on game development.
fogoticus
Forum type website where all the social rejects from twitter and all corners of the internet gather and everyone is an expert and knows better.
PPMD_IS_BACK
Makes sense why cs devs ignore the bullies’ whining here until they provide literal evidence. 👍 I’d do the same tbh.
_Verc1ngetorix_
It seems like nobody is being toxic, just questioning his methodology. Nobody is being a dick to him or giving him shit, just seems like some people want to be sure of the validity of the result even though they don’t understand they’re wrong. Am I in the twilight zone or something why are you saying people ‘scared’ him off and others claiming people are being toxic. Maybe I didn’t read enough of the thread but I don’t see anything which resembles toxicity?
TheN1njTurtl3
Damn why they on his nuts, the spray feels a lot better to me now imo, the game is starting to get closer and closer to go for me (still needs a few things, more consistent performance would be great for one but)
Ejivis
They should try having thicker skin
PlmPestPLaY
In all fairness, his last post was just weird. An image with an arrow labeled “WTF” without an explanation. Writing how he is angry in the comments, lol. Hope he has another way of getting his work to valve then.
1337howling
Same people complaining that valve devs aren’t communicating enough just to flame the shit out of them when they actually do post.
Classic CS community L
Human-Signal4808
That looks like the tamest questions ever. If they don’t want any questions about their methodology, they should work on being better at explaining.
Afraid_Magician_9462
No good deed goes unpunished. FeelsBadMan
vivalatoucan
This subreddit is a constant war between cope and gaslighting with some memes sprinkled in
KaNesDeath
One of the first things you need to do when dealing with large social media platforms. Is learn to not engage and or consume with every detractor.
BobDude65
Reddit as a whole is toxic as anything but this subreddit in particular is really bad. You can’t post anything without at least 5 people finding something to send hate over.
dragozeroone
Honestly, this is just incompetence from his part if you ask me. If you have experience in academia or engineering, having your methodology questioned IS how we do science. For someone like OP who likes to process data, he should know better that bad methodology can collect completely irrelevant data.
People can question all the time, but this kind of attitude won’t get him anywhere if his methodology is downright dodgy on paper. You don’t just deny anyone who questions your method, PROVE yourself why it works. Or in his case reliable enough to represent the actual problem. Refusing to explain and closing himself out from a discussion forum meant for discussing is not a good look at all.
That’s not to say his work was irrelevant, but his hostile responses seem very immature and IMO only damages his reputation in the long run.
Hyperus102
I triggered this, and yes I was a bit absolute in my discussion with him initially, but I would have been willing to listen, if he didn’t just instantly make it personal
As for recoil: “Responsible for the spray fix” is whoever at Valve fixed this. I think it is good that he made a post about it. Valve really does need a nudge right now. But the reason this wasn’t fixed earlier wasn’t any of the numbers or graphs. I guarantee you that a short clip getting 2k+ upvotes at the right time (which was then) would have gotten this fixed. I also think this entire situation might have inflated his ego to an unreasonable degree (as per his bio he “FIXED THE CS2 SPRAY”).
aruss15
Search Reddit for 10 minutes and you’ll see the type of people who regularly post nonsense on here
trizthefren
remember when all those subreddits went on a pitchfork protest against X and said they will no longer link posts from the site? LMAO Reddit is so funny sometimes
llamapanther
Lol I checked the X and his reddit post, what is he even crying about? Nothing toxic even. And even if it were, who tf cares? It’s reddit, just don’t answer to trolls. Is this guy new to the internet or what? And how’s X any better? I guess living on an eco chamber where there’s no opposing thoughts is fun lol.
?? He literally schizo posted his own thread wheb people came with good feedback and went off the deep end instead of saying ” I didnt think off that”.
They clearly need to take a chill pill
needledicklarry
Uh huh. I saw that thread and basically everyone was asking him to explain his findings a bit better than a random graph with something circled, and he seemed super upset and irrational.
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The internet is toxic, no one is surprised. Guess why most developers do not talk to the community outside of blog posts or community managers.
And the community will wonder why Valve wants absolutely nothing to do with them
people can’t accept not being the smartest always need to add their input that nobody asked for
[deleted]
The internet is bad enough but Reddit is its own echo chamber cesspool
The amount of people that actually think they have some insight on how the game works and throwing around the word subtick every 2nd comment is ridiculous.
There are a select few that actually do the work to try and figure it out and the devs themselves. Most people just need to stop acting all smart because they watched a 20 min youtube video on game development.
Forum type website where all the social rejects from twitter and all corners of the internet gather and everyone is an expert and knows better.
Makes sense why cs devs ignore the bullies’ whining here until they provide literal evidence. 👍 I’d do the same tbh.
It seems like nobody is being toxic, just questioning his methodology. Nobody is being a dick to him or giving him shit, just seems like some people want to be sure of the validity of the result even though they don’t understand they’re wrong. Am I in the twilight zone or something why are you saying people ‘scared’ him off and others claiming people are being toxic. Maybe I didn’t read enough of the thread but I don’t see anything which resembles toxicity?
Damn why they on his nuts, the spray feels a lot better to me now imo, the game is starting to get closer and closer to go for me (still needs a few things, more consistent performance would be great for one but)
They should try having thicker skin
In all fairness, his last post was just weird. An image with an arrow labeled “WTF” without an explanation. Writing how he is angry in the comments, lol. Hope he has another way of getting his work to valve then.
Same people complaining that valve devs aren’t communicating enough just to flame the shit out of them when they actually do post.
Classic CS community L
That looks like the tamest questions ever. If they don’t want any questions about their methodology, they should work on being better at explaining.
No good deed goes unpunished. FeelsBadMan
This subreddit is a constant war between cope and gaslighting with some memes sprinkled in
One of the first things you need to do when dealing with large social media platforms. Is learn to not engage and or consume with every detractor.
Reddit as a whole is toxic as anything but this subreddit in particular is really bad. You can’t post anything without at least 5 people finding something to send hate over.
Honestly, this is just incompetence from his part if you ask me. If you have experience in academia or engineering, having your methodology questioned IS how we do science. For someone like OP who likes to process data, he should know better that bad methodology can collect completely irrelevant data.
People can question all the time, but this kind of attitude won’t get him anywhere if his methodology is downright dodgy on paper. You don’t just deny anyone who questions your method, PROVE yourself why it works. Or in his case reliable enough to represent the actual problem. Refusing to explain and closing himself out from a discussion forum meant for discussing is not a good look at all.
That’s not to say his work was irrelevant, but his hostile responses seem very immature and IMO only damages his reputation in the long run.
I triggered this, and yes I was a bit absolute in my discussion with him initially, but I would have been willing to listen, if he didn’t just instantly make it personal
Basically every encounter I had with this guy, it ended up with him getting personal for no reason, even when I just kept trying to explain my viewpoint to him.
He blocked me [after this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1kxtf7j/comment/muwrzr2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), where I first admitted I was being a little too absolute, presented the very cause to the “problem” he was showing and then telling him that I found him hostile. If that is enough to bring him over the edge, that’s on him frankly.
As for recoil: “Responsible for the spray fix” is whoever at Valve fixed this. I think it is good that he made a post about it. Valve really does need a nudge right now. But the reason this wasn’t fixed earlier wasn’t any of the numbers or graphs. I guarantee you that a short clip getting 2k+ upvotes at the right time (which was then) would have gotten this fixed. I also think this entire situation might have inflated his ego to an unreasonable degree (as per his bio he “FIXED THE CS2 SPRAY”).
Search Reddit for 10 minutes and you’ll see the type of people who regularly post nonsense on here
remember when all those subreddits went on a pitchfork protest against X and said they will no longer link posts from the site? LMAO Reddit is so funny sometimes
Lol I checked the X and his reddit post, what is he even crying about? Nothing toxic even. And even if it were, who tf cares? It’s reddit, just don’t answer to trolls. Is this guy new to the internet or what? And how’s X any better? I guess living on an eco chamber where there’s no opposing thoughts is fun lol.
The fellow seems a bit short-fused tbh: https://x.com/eugenio8a8/status/1928168874710610295
?? He literally schizo posted his own thread wheb people came with good feedback and went off the deep end instead of saying ” I didnt think off that”.
They clearly need to take a chill pill
Uh huh. I saw that thread and basically everyone was asking him to explain his findings a bit better than a random graph with something circled, and he seemed super upset and irrational.