Starfield feels like a game made straight after fallout 4, endless loading screens.
Hawkmoon_
Each game they make is in less of a “unique” setting than the previous one. Morrowind was straight up *strange* the first time I played. Its hard to be a stranger in a strange land when it all perfectly conforms to basic fantasy/scifi tropes we know like the backs of our hands
Blacknite45
Get a good fantasy author and lock him in a room for six months with unlimited cocaine and tequila with an occasional input of sci fi story every now and then and see if we get morrowwind again
Senorspeed
Narrator – “Bethesda never returned to weirder times”
0rganicMach1ne
I love Starfield despite its flaws but saying that it feels too sterile is accurate. I’m not sure if the tech was there yet for what they were really going for. Like I feel like I get what they were going for and I appreciate the ambition, but something just feels off about the exploration. If they could have seamless in system travel and give players compelling reasons to stay on a given planet for an extended period of time, I think it would greatly improve people’s view of the game.
Pen_dragons_pizza
The problem I had with starfield is that it was totally lacking the creativity of the universe.
We needed alien races, which as a result would have created way more fun situations but as well as story’s.
It’s a shame that I have to mod it with Star Wars aliens to make it feel like a better world.
Other than that I felt like it was a solid game, especially after the recent updates
vendettaclause
i hate how just because the games not goofy or wacky all the time, and doesn’t play like an action blockbuster, that people think its “sterile”. And i honestly don’t know what that even means besides wanting a more realistic, levelheaded take on the genre.
KingofGrapes7
Bethesda doesnt want to do weird anymore. Truly ‘weird’ or ‘alien’ like Morrowind anyway. Not only is their writing not up to it anymore, they think it will hurt the mainstream appeal of their game. Obviously in trying to appeal to everyone they have ended up boring everyone, but I’m not confident Bethesda realizes that. Maybe the lukewarm response to Starfield and the positive response to Oblivion Remastered will show them otherwise. But right now Bethesda is committed to playing it as safe and sterile as they can.
smellyourdick
>I just hope they go back to their roots a bit and embrace the personal expression of devs and having things a bit weirder. I think Starfield is a bit too sterile of a game, and that’s why it doesn’t resonate with quite as many people. I’m excited to see how The Elder Scrolls 6 turns out, and I hope it’s what people want.
for reference, the quote is from an interview with Nathan Purkeypile, who worked on Fallout 3, Fallout 4, and The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim as a world artist and on Fallout 76 as a lead artist. He is also credited as the lead lighting artist for Starfield. He left Bethesda in 2021 to form his own indie studio: Just Purkey Games, who released The Axis Unseen and is working on a title called Deedlee Doo! Carkour!
DROOPY1824
Purkeypile. What a dope last name
Lz537
I think a trans-universal beign plotting with Delano Rosevelt to settle a war between Gengis Khan and queen Amanirenas so that Amelia Earhart can join slmy space shit was kinda weird but whatever you think man.
RUNPROGRAMSENTIONAUT
We all do buddy.
TheNameless00
Why is it always a former developer? Never a current one or any other member of staff. This whole month all I’ve read from every news place is “former developer says this”
tangin
Perhaps Bethesda found, and rightfully so due its success, they struck gold with the ideas on creating the world of Skyrim and used that theme, if you will, to create Starfield?
Fuck I wish Starfield was better though.. damnit now I’m pissed and sad
Helplessadvice
I hope the next fallout has some really wacky as weird shit going on. I’m going to lose my mind if I need to find another family member.
For the next Elder scrolls I’m more worried about gameplay than story tbh. I know the story is going to be great, but there’s so many things I hope Bethesda reimplements from past games to this new one
VegetarianZombie74
Some of the quests in Starfield are good. For instance, going to the derelict prison on some icy planet was cool. There’s another bio-lab with some creature hunting you. I actually liked the lore of some world destroying creature that just shows up.
But the engine was a complete mess. Every quest glitched on me. People melted through the floor. In the bio-lab, the monster hunting me glitched into geometry. I just walked up to it and killed it. There was a bank heist that glitched. The main plot was just dumb. There’s no roleplay. It’s all “shoot on sight”.
The game had some wonderful bits that were buried under the sheer weight of all the dreck. I see the good work made by talented folks, but Bethesda leadership has lost it. They haven’t made a released a compelling game since 2011.
unpluggedcord
Should I play Starfield?
No-Gas-8478
just be the publisher and let machine games make games for you guys!!
USDXBS
They won’t.
It’s going to be big budget AAA games created by studio execs obsessed with AI and monetization.
TheCowboyIsAnIndian
we should be pushing for weirder times in all things. aside from the psychedelic subculture that is now mainstream… there just isnt enough out there that is weird for the sake of being weird. and weird doesnt mean wacky or colorful or whatever, it means taking people with weird ideas and giving them the tools and teams to achieve those things without compromise. i understand the risk of cost, but the value to breeding new and interesting art is more important than ever. especially when AI is doing a lot of the writing coming up
MisterB78
Nothingburger of a story.
> I just hope they go back to their roots a bit and embrace the personal expression of devs and having things a bit weirder. I think Starfield is a bit too sterile of a game, and that’s why it doesn’t resonate with quite as many people. I’m excited to see how The Elder Scrolls 6 turns out, and I hope it’s what people want.
That’s it; that’s the entire quote from him.
phobox91
This Is gold. While i can under stand some people licking the game, as its not horrible, It feels exactly sterile, without a soul, dated and not worth playing It like It was for other Bethesda games
Shikamarana
is polish weird? is releasing a game in a finished state weird? if so yeah get weird but really starfield just needed to not be dogshit
Indorilionn
I don’t see why we cannot have or want both. I do not mind Fallout and TES being weird. But I really also want a hard-ish SciFi game.
Snowleopard1469
The morrowind hate in this thread stinks of outlanders. Speak quickly.
MyStationIsAbandoned
I’ll never understand why they opted for the most boring and bland way to make a space game ever…No humanoid intelligent aliens like Mass Effect. no otherworldly tech made by those aliens. everything is just Nasa punk when it should have just been one of the styles developed. a ton of boring empty planets.
Like…dude…you have an original IP you can do anything with and you make the most boring universe possible. We want alien people, not just animals. we want to explore alien ruins and stuff. come on.
I honestly hope they drop Starfield and stick to Fallout and Elder Scrolls. I’d like to be alive with Elder Scrolls 7 comes out…
Impressive-Box-2911
The OG Daggerfall devs were the best to ever do it…
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Starfield feels like a game made straight after fallout 4, endless loading screens.
Each game they make is in less of a “unique” setting than the previous one. Morrowind was straight up *strange* the first time I played. Its hard to be a stranger in a strange land when it all perfectly conforms to basic fantasy/scifi tropes we know like the backs of our hands
Get a good fantasy author and lock him in a room for six months with unlimited cocaine and tequila with an occasional input of sci fi story every now and then and see if we get morrowwind again
Narrator – “Bethesda never returned to weirder times”
I love Starfield despite its flaws but saying that it feels too sterile is accurate. I’m not sure if the tech was there yet for what they were really going for. Like I feel like I get what they were going for and I appreciate the ambition, but something just feels off about the exploration. If they could have seamless in system travel and give players compelling reasons to stay on a given planet for an extended period of time, I think it would greatly improve people’s view of the game.
The problem I had with starfield is that it was totally lacking the creativity of the universe.
We needed alien races, which as a result would have created way more fun situations but as well as story’s.
It’s a shame that I have to mod it with Star Wars aliens to make it feel like a better world.
Other than that I felt like it was a solid game, especially after the recent updates
i hate how just because the games not goofy or wacky all the time, and doesn’t play like an action blockbuster, that people think its “sterile”. And i honestly don’t know what that even means besides wanting a more realistic, levelheaded take on the genre.
Bethesda doesnt want to do weird anymore. Truly ‘weird’ or ‘alien’ like Morrowind anyway. Not only is their writing not up to it anymore, they think it will hurt the mainstream appeal of their game. Obviously in trying to appeal to everyone they have ended up boring everyone, but I’m not confident Bethesda realizes that. Maybe the lukewarm response to Starfield and the positive response to Oblivion Remastered will show them otherwise. But right now Bethesda is committed to playing it as safe and sterile as they can.
>I just hope they go back to their roots a bit and embrace the personal expression of devs and having things a bit weirder. I think Starfield is a bit too sterile of a game, and that’s why it doesn’t resonate with quite as many people. I’m excited to see how The Elder Scrolls 6 turns out, and I hope it’s what people want.
for reference, the quote is from an interview with Nathan Purkeypile, who worked on Fallout 3, Fallout 4, and The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim as a world artist and on Fallout 76 as a lead artist. He is also credited as the lead lighting artist for Starfield. He left Bethesda in 2021 to form his own indie studio: Just Purkey Games, who released The Axis Unseen and is working on a title called Deedlee Doo! Carkour!
Purkeypile. What a dope last name
I think a trans-universal beign plotting with Delano Rosevelt to settle a war between Gengis Khan and queen Amanirenas so that Amelia Earhart can join slmy space shit was kinda weird but whatever you think man.
We all do buddy.
Why is it always a former developer? Never a current one or any other member of staff. This whole month all I’ve read from every news place is “former developer says this”
Perhaps Bethesda found, and rightfully so due its success, they struck gold with the ideas on creating the world of Skyrim and used that theme, if you will, to create Starfield?
Fuck I wish Starfield was better though.. damnit now I’m pissed and sad
I hope the next fallout has some really wacky as weird shit going on. I’m going to lose my mind if I need to find another family member.
For the next Elder scrolls I’m more worried about gameplay than story tbh. I know the story is going to be great, but there’s so many things I hope Bethesda reimplements from past games to this new one
Some of the quests in Starfield are good. For instance, going to the derelict prison on some icy planet was cool. There’s another bio-lab with some creature hunting you. I actually liked the lore of some world destroying creature that just shows up.
But the engine was a complete mess. Every quest glitched on me. People melted through the floor. In the bio-lab, the monster hunting me glitched into geometry. I just walked up to it and killed it. There was a bank heist that glitched. The main plot was just dumb. There’s no roleplay. It’s all “shoot on sight”.
The game had some wonderful bits that were buried under the sheer weight of all the dreck. I see the good work made by talented folks, but Bethesda leadership has lost it. They haven’t made a released a compelling game since 2011.
Should I play Starfield?
just be the publisher and let machine games make games for you guys!!
They won’t.
It’s going to be big budget AAA games created by studio execs obsessed with AI and monetization.
we should be pushing for weirder times in all things. aside from the psychedelic subculture that is now mainstream… there just isnt enough out there that is weird for the sake of being weird. and weird doesnt mean wacky or colorful or whatever, it means taking people with weird ideas and giving them the tools and teams to achieve those things without compromise. i understand the risk of cost, but the value to breeding new and interesting art is more important than ever. especially when AI is doing a lot of the writing coming up
Nothingburger of a story.
> I just hope they go back to their roots a bit and embrace the personal expression of devs and having things a bit weirder. I think Starfield is a bit too sterile of a game, and that’s why it doesn’t resonate with quite as many people. I’m excited to see how The Elder Scrolls 6 turns out, and I hope it’s what people want.
That’s it; that’s the entire quote from him.
This Is gold. While i can under stand some people licking the game, as its not horrible, It feels exactly sterile, without a soul, dated and not worth playing It like It was for other Bethesda games
is polish weird? is releasing a game in a finished state weird? if so yeah get weird but really starfield just needed to not be dogshit
I don’t see why we cannot have or want both. I do not mind Fallout and TES being weird. But I really also want a hard-ish SciFi game.
The morrowind hate in this thread stinks of outlanders. Speak quickly.
I’ll never understand why they opted for the most boring and bland way to make a space game ever…No humanoid intelligent aliens like Mass Effect. no otherworldly tech made by those aliens. everything is just Nasa punk when it should have just been one of the styles developed. a ton of boring empty planets.
Like…dude…you have an original IP you can do anything with and you make the most boring universe possible. We want alien people, not just animals. we want to explore alien ruins and stuff. come on.
I honestly hope they drop Starfield and stick to Fallout and Elder Scrolls. I’d like to be alive with Elder Scrolls 7 comes out…
The OG Daggerfall devs were the best to ever do it…