r/pcmasterrace – where tech illiterate idiots gather to pretend they’re smarter and know more than developers who spent their entire professional careers making video games
Dtcomat
Unironically true and based
Genuinely-No-Idea
I would agree with this meme if the GPU industry wasn’t basically the smartphone industry’s cousin at this point. It’s all about making your GPU obsolete as quickly as possible so you have to buy a new one every year
CyberRaver39
Forced ray tracing isn’t the way we should be going honestly
That’s with 3 rigs all capable of doing it in the house, it’s a tech demo and adds very little for the consumer
Whilst wrecking overall performance across the board
There is a reason why doom dark ages is selling poorly
Surfingbird4321
I don’t care what people say, I won’t buy a new gpu to play wow and hearthstone
herbalblend
This sub was once about cutting edge hardware and braggy graphic settings.
Now it seems like a competition for who’s most proud their 1060 “still plays everything fine”
Petition to rename r/frugaltechenthusiasts
In9e
Damn right skinner
bedwars_player
Don’t like forced RT but i get it. makes doing lighting a lot simpler in games and most non RT supporting gpus are getting to the point where they struggle in new games even without ray tracing.
theweedfather_
Make ray tracing actually run well first.
Relevant-Bonus-2735
Don’t forget the “they have to optimize the games better my 1080 ti struggles to run the game at max “
Guts-390
Both things are true at the same time. This sub is delusional. Ray tracing is objectively dumb if you’re concerned about optimization. But we need to keep peddling Nvidia marketing, then cry about Nvidia pricing all at the same time. Literally the whole point behind faking these effects to begin with was to improve performance. It’s no coincidence that modern games run like ass on anything less than a $750 gpu.
Yes, ray tracing is the future. But we dont live in the future. We live in the present. And as it stands, ray tracing sucks on anything other than high end gpus, despite being 7 years into the era of ray tracing. And the gpus are still only pulling it off through ai trickery. Yet, you somehow believe ray tracing isnt a huge cintributor to this problem? This isnt going to change anytime soon either.
namelesswhiteguy
Me but it’s my AM4 processor.
Abram367
My 3080 will be 5 years old this year. It’s still a tank.
Takeasmoke
just look at that comparison from the other day, they put up 5060 against 3060 and 2060 super, 5060 is winning only because of frame gen…
my 5 year GPU is still very useful
MtnNerd
Most of the time it feels like one half thinks their 10 year old PC should run things just fine and the other half thinks anything short of a 4090 means you’re a peasant.
Aztaloth
Most of the people complaining are way to young to remember the gnashing of teeth when Raster replaced Vector. It’s too expensive. It’s a niece product. It’s unneeded.. Blah Blah Blah.
But the reality is that it happens with every single piece of tech. Just look at the people who refuse to move on to USB type C.
Superzayian9
This wouldn’t even be a problem if ray tracing GPU’s were actually readily available and the price to performance wasn’t so god awful
Manzoli
Well actually yes. I’m sorry RT lovers but i still dig a good ol’ baked lightning (when done right).
Cuzzbaby
As someone with a GTX 1080 I wholeheartedly agree.
bustonias
New low to midrange cards still struggle with raytracing. Brand new cards are not obsolete. Raytracing is still not worth it at all IMO
Arbszy
Spend the money on a good CPU and more RAM that will help elevate the old GPU.
rus_ruris
Me when my 5 years old GPU is 20% slower than the one launched TODAY and I don’t get playable framerates in last year’s top games when everything is maxed with RTX (another 20% FPS will not either, you’re literally buying obsolete hardware) but when not using RTX everything runs smooth as a a dream
piplenz
I remember how disappointed I felt when I bought my 3070ti and every game I’d try with RT on would run like sh*t.
Then I made peace with the fact that RT is not ready yet and I’ve been happily gaming at 4k 60fps (most games with mid graphic settings) ever since.
Abusive_Truth
But we are generating 1 pixel and AI is making the other 9 🙃
DaStompa
Ive been enjoying people telling me my 3080 cant run doom at like 90fps when i’m right here, doing it
Banyanya007
Me with my 1650 happy playing indie games on Steam
No-Television-7862
I’m not getting a new gpu for ffxiv either.
AtvnSBisnotHT
What’s ray tracing?
I don’t use it
bigdig-_-
well new games look worse and perform worse, sure it makes it easier for devs, but i dont really care about that
Efficient_Care8279
NO new games run like shit even on new hardware pls stop acting like everyone is using gt710 ffs
Ragnaroknight
I bought a Radeon HD7770 for $129 the same year it came out.
I’ll stop bitching when a mid-range GPU isn’t $500-700
You can mock all you want, but if people stop prioritizing GPU upgrades to the point where new game sales suffer due to lack of hardware access by the consumer base, the industry has to adapt and make less intensive games.
Obviously that hasn’t happened yet, but it’s feasible that it could.
I honestly think we lost something when console primacy went away. There’s a kind of dying artistry that came from developers having to make games compatible with the Xbox 360 for 10 straight years.
Apprehensive-Read989
Even as an owner of a modern GPU (4070 and 9070 XT), I still think that ray tracing sucks in almost every game that has it. It is almost never graphically transformative, yet takes tons of processing power. The juice is truly not worth the squeeze in 99% of the games I have played.
WhiteRaven42
…. Isn’t the point of this meme usually that SKinner is wrong and out of touch?
That’s just truth. RTX off, I can game on my 2060 Super and everyhting runs great.
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Hate to agree, but I do.
r/pcmasterrace – where tech illiterate idiots gather to pretend they’re smarter and know more than developers who spent their entire professional careers making video games
Unironically true and based
I would agree with this meme if the GPU industry wasn’t basically the smartphone industry’s cousin at this point. It’s all about making your GPU obsolete as quickly as possible so you have to buy a new one every year
Forced ray tracing isn’t the way we should be going honestly
That’s with 3 rigs all capable of doing it in the house, it’s a tech demo and adds very little for the consumer
Whilst wrecking overall performance across the board
There is a reason why doom dark ages is selling poorly
I don’t care what people say, I won’t buy a new gpu to play wow and hearthstone
This sub was once about cutting edge hardware and braggy graphic settings.
Now it seems like a competition for who’s most proud their 1060 “still plays everything fine”
Petition to rename r/frugaltechenthusiasts
Damn right skinner
Don’t like forced RT but i get it. makes doing lighting a lot simpler in games and most non RT supporting gpus are getting to the point where they struggle in new games even without ray tracing.
Make ray tracing actually run well first.
Don’t forget the “they have to optimize the games better my 1080 ti struggles to run the game at max “
Both things are true at the same time. This sub is delusional. Ray tracing is objectively dumb if you’re concerned about optimization. But we need to keep peddling Nvidia marketing, then cry about Nvidia pricing all at the same time. Literally the whole point behind faking these effects to begin with was to improve performance. It’s no coincidence that modern games run like ass on anything less than a $750 gpu.
Yes, ray tracing is the future. But we dont live in the future. We live in the present. And as it stands, ray tracing sucks on anything other than high end gpus, despite being 7 years into the era of ray tracing. And the gpus are still only pulling it off through ai trickery. Yet, you somehow believe ray tracing isnt a huge cintributor to this problem? This isnt going to change anytime soon either.
Me but it’s my AM4 processor.
My 3080 will be 5 years old this year. It’s still a tank.
just look at that comparison from the other day, they put up 5060 against 3060 and 2060 super, 5060 is winning only because of frame gen…
my 5 year GPU is still very useful
Most of the time it feels like one half thinks their 10 year old PC should run things just fine and the other half thinks anything short of a 4090 means you’re a peasant.
Most of the people complaining are way to young to remember the gnashing of teeth when Raster replaced Vector. It’s too expensive. It’s a niece product. It’s unneeded.. Blah Blah Blah.
But the reality is that it happens with every single piece of tech. Just look at the people who refuse to move on to USB type C.
This wouldn’t even be a problem if ray tracing GPU’s were actually readily available and the price to performance wasn’t so god awful
Well actually yes. I’m sorry RT lovers but i still dig a good ol’ baked lightning (when done right).
As someone with a GTX 1080 I wholeheartedly agree.
New low to midrange cards still struggle with raytracing. Brand new cards are not obsolete. Raytracing is still not worth it at all IMO
Spend the money on a good CPU and more RAM that will help elevate the old GPU.
Me when my 5 years old GPU is 20% slower than the one launched TODAY and I don’t get playable framerates in last year’s top games when everything is maxed with RTX (another 20% FPS will not either, you’re literally buying obsolete hardware) but when not using RTX everything runs smooth as a a dream
I remember how disappointed I felt when I bought my 3070ti and every game I’d try with RT on would run like sh*t.
Then I made peace with the fact that RT is not ready yet and I’ve been happily gaming at 4k 60fps (most games with mid graphic settings) ever since.
But we are generating 1 pixel and AI is making the other 9 🙃
Ive been enjoying people telling me my 3080 cant run doom at like 90fps when i’m right here, doing it
Me with my 1650 happy playing indie games on Steam
I’m not getting a new gpu for ffxiv either.
What’s ray tracing?
I don’t use it
well new games look worse and perform worse, sure it makes it easier for devs, but i dont really care about that
NO new games run like shit even on new hardware pls stop acting like everyone is using gt710 ffs
I bought a Radeon HD7770 for $129 the same year it came out.
I’ll stop bitching when a mid-range GPU isn’t $500-700
https://preview.redd.it/ckxmpn2nc62f1.png?width=1605&format=png&auto=webp&s=f7132707a3ea32bbb8e39a8c3721bbae0914bef7
You can mock all you want, but if people stop prioritizing GPU upgrades to the point where new game sales suffer due to lack of hardware access by the consumer base, the industry has to adapt and make less intensive games.
Obviously that hasn’t happened yet, but it’s feasible that it could.
I honestly think we lost something when console primacy went away. There’s a kind of dying artistry that came from developers having to make games compatible with the Xbox 360 for 10 straight years.
Even as an owner of a modern GPU (4070 and 9070 XT), I still think that ray tracing sucks in almost every game that has it. It is almost never graphically transformative, yet takes tons of processing power. The juice is truly not worth the squeeze in 99% of the games I have played.
…. Isn’t the point of this meme usually that SKinner is wrong and out of touch?
That’s just truth. RTX off, I can game on my 2060 Super and everyhting runs great.
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