The "paid=quality" argument still being a thing shows how stupid people are. No, we got plenty of terrible maps on the paid model. You rather pay for mediocrity

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  1. draconianRegiment

    Mtx and skins are annoying so I get it. However not having to pay for zombies dlc is pretty great especially with modern base game prices if you want to own your stuff.

  2. Gbubby03

    I’d rather be only able to pay for dlc and gun skins as to support the developers and they go back to the way bo2 was where everything wasnt related around skins and battle passes. Can have a game without buying dlcs too like how they do now with releasing maps every season but I liked how things were back then a lot more

  3. sillyestgooberever

    idk bruh its almost like ever since dlcs stopped having to be something they had to sell to people we’ve been getting recycled 0 sovless slop ever since with a few shiny gems in the swath of turds

  4. sIeepai

    paid dlc is usually better quality than free and when there’s no mtx companies actually have to fix the game in order to make profit instead of not giving a shit like with bo6

  5. Complete_Resolve_400

    OK we need more information here

    Are we asking in general or asking from a “what we have seen” perspective

    People here are answering this way because “well, the paid dlc maps were better, therefore that’s the better method”

  6. DanteAlgoreally

    Yes, Reddit can be very delusional and troll-ing.

  7. OopScuseMeOop

    Free DLC is the way to go. Let kids steal dad’s credit card to buy a ton of worthless skins and weapon FX to pay for all our free DLC updates!
    😎

  8. wetmeatlol

    I can honestly understand both perspectives but I feel like a lot of these votes are from people who weren’t even around back when paid dlcs were a thing.

    I think the biggest issue is this, spending an extra $60 (they were $15 a pack iirc?) on the game is completely optional with the bundle shop. While it is still optional with a paid dlc format, the player base gets divided so much between the people who do and don’t have certain map packs which is a PITA for finding lobbies in MP or when playing with parties.

    And the whole argument of better quality for paid dlcs could be true but given how focused these companies are on player retention nowadays, you’d think it’s just as important for them to release quality DLCs now to bring players back onto or keep them on the game.

  9. calidir

    I’d prefer a straight up “this gun for 5 bucks” or “this player card is 99 cents” they could get their money and people could get what they want

  10. Brumbby_TTV

    I don’t know why people were so mad at loot boxes, I actually liked them in bo3 and they just improved in bo4.

    I also feel that when the dlc is paid more effort went into them at least back then, so I was getting a higher quality product. I don’t think anyone would be buy a dlc for any modern cod so they were forced to make it free.

  11. SwatXTeam

    Free maps are nice but, in general, cod has gotten worse since the bundle meta began. Just feels like the game isn’t getting the care that it did in the past. imo

  12. Hangman_17

    I would happily pay 110 dollars for game plus season pass if that means all my cosmetics are unlocked IN GAME. I even prefer black ops 3 where there’s an entire regiment of skins and gold skins just for character mastery. This system of literally everything other than gun camps being paid packs is fucking cancer. Give me a season pass back any day.

  13. ThyBuffTaco

    I’ll 100% buy dlc again if they completely remove the store it’s not delusional we just grew up in a different time and hate seeing what cod has turned into

  14. BIG-GUY-1035

    Games are going to be (or already are) $80-100, and then another $60 for dlc. Yeah, no thanks

  15. spxde137

    Honestly I don’t mind either but if I could buy a camo that I could use on any and all guns like in the bo2 days that’d be nice. I hate how bundles only allow me to use the skin on 1 gun but the free zombie maps are nice

  16. Harun_Hussain

    Paid DLC: Full Game, pay for more

    Free DLC: Half the game, we’ll slowly give you the rest throughout the year

  17. lewdetor917

    I’d personally prefer paid DLC over trash bundles as it feels like once they switched to free.DLC the maps went downhill hard. As for lootboxes I wouldn’t mind them if they are earnable and only cosmetic so you can customize your character more

  18. RobertSmales

    Pretty sure when i look at people top 5 atleast 85% of it is paid maps

    Also i bet you pay for the battlepass so your already doing paid dlc anyway lol

  19. gogus2003

    I grew up playing when it was paid DLC and no loot boxes. Frankly, it was nice. But free DLC is wonderful for making a game last a few more years, free gameplay content keeps games going for as long as its released.

    COSMETIC loot boxes are fine, but I hate the colabs and the cartoony skins. If they have any colabs, it should be with gun manufacturers, not squid games. And skins should be more adult/military themed. It’s rated M, it should market towards adults, not fortnite kids

  20. barrack_osama_0

    A CoD game used to be $110 for all of the playable content, now it’s $80. So it used to be $30 more while the quality of the DLC post Die Rise was guaranteed to be absolutely amazing (excluding BO4 and non-Treyarch). If we could guarantee that the DLC was of similar quality of BO2 and 3, I would absolutely spend $110 every year that Treyarch released a game.

    The unfortunate reality is that the people who guaranteed that quality to make it worth the money are no longer at Treyarch so that isn’t possible

  21. brandothesavage

    I want to pay for it Make me pay for it I don’t want this free thing anymore I’ll pay for a season pass and the whole game just stop giving us all stupid things that all cost $30.

  22. CaelumTheWolf

    I’d rather wait for the damn maps and have them be free and mediocre then wait for them and shell out 20 dollars for them when in all likelihood I’m touching that map once compared to the other maps that we get now that I actually return to

  23. This makes sense for the people who buy a ton of skins because it saves them money anyways but for a cheap bastard like me I’ll keep free dlc’s. U gotta think the dlc’s were like the price of one skin

  24. WanderingMistral

    Half the issue is people think that the developers are only going to be motivated if the DLC they make has to be purchased. They dont seem to realize that most of the time, they paid a salary, not a hourly wage (otherwise, crunch and overtime would make games even more expensive.) So all the money that is gotten from paid DLC is not going towards DLC, the DLC is already being made and basically paid for. Its been planned out since before the game was launched.

    The other half is that people that want paid DLC seem to think that paying for DLC will make the DLC better, not realize also that the developers and staff that made the good maps are already gone, otherwise the quality of the maps wouldnt have “dropped”.

  25. MiniorDebry

    This really does read as a “This group must be stupid because they aren’t following my opinion” post. It’s your opinion that free is better, that’s fine, but other opinions are allowed to exist :v

    The argument over which is better is always going to exist, neither side is right or wrong. 

    I’m probably going to take a break from this sub since it’s becoming an echo chamber of hating on one group or the other for upvotes, instead of actually discussing or even trying to understand why they like certain things about the mode anymore. 

  26. The ratio of paid maps to great maps are a lot better than the ratio of free maps to great maps.

    FWIW too, the money that went toward purchasing a DLC pack was a direct representation of that specific zombies map. There’s close to zero feedback for free maps as less play time is just an indicator of less people playing the game as a whole and sentiment toward a map isn’t indicative of its actual quality.

    It’s quite an objective fact that these free maps have less depth than the paid maps and I would happily move back toward paying for a zombies map if it meant they were better on average.

    The only truly terrible/mid maps I can think of from the paid dlc era are die rise and alpha omega. Conversely, fire base z, forsaken, liberty falls, CDM, and the tomb are either bad or uninteresting in many ways.

  27. jackyboy44444

    I kinda just prefer both, because it shows from both BO3 being paid and BO6 being free that they can both exist and be good. However, I lean more on dlc being paid because yes, paid does equal better quality, and it shows. All of BO3 is paid and everything is paid. Most of BO4 is pretty good and they’re all paid.

  28. INeedYourHelpFrank

    Dlc packs used to give us 5 maps and a zombies experience way more value than today’s skin bs

  29. apersonlol2007

    Ig COD fans want to spend $70 on a rushed piece of shit, and $15 for a semi decent zombies map

  30. Well it’s objectively that paid DLCs maps were MUCH higher quality in almost every aspect.
    Ever heard of Zombie Chronicles? It costed 30$.

  31. Craft-Sea

    The only reason I bought BO6 is because I knew the DLC maps were going to be free, I am not willing to drop extra money on an already full price game just to play the new content. New model is way better.

  32. PointBlank747

    I hated the whole suppy drop shite…

    Ya, the player hub & stuff made it fun in WWII for like a minute seeing what gun someone might get or something like that… And ya, I liked the fact that the season pass gave you all the zombies’ maps & whatever other maps they released…

    However, yes, still having to pay 120 quid for a game that has mini season pass, the 30 quid black cell battle pass along with a daily release of in store in 2days economy is ridiculous, but honestly, I’ll take anything over the RNG loot boxes, because if FIFA has thought me anything random loot boxes do not like & no matter how much money I spend I’ll never get the thing I’m looking for in game… So ya, honestly, either way, I’m probably spending the same amount of money, maybe, because the black, the mini season pass & the store packs are you get what you see, all they need to do is stop with the times operator packs & they’re golden, 😁😁…

  33. AnonyMouse3925

    OP you look silly as hell right now, ngl.

    Many of us completely agree with the 66% of voters on that poll

  34. Nickster2042

    This comment section is mad disappointing

  35. Tyfire02

    Wouldn’t everyone rather have a realy good map that you have to pay for, rather than a sucky map that you get for free.

    I’ve never regretted the money I spent on the DLC maps from BO2/3.

    As far as skins and cosmetics go
    I hate the post-Fortnite era of selling skins rather than having them be unlockable items like older games had.
    The same goes for anything like COD points and liquid divinium from BO3.

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