That’s gotta be a kick in the balls wasting eight years for somebody to go no we are canceling it
Smart-Pay1715
Steam has always been the good guy at the end of the day, so I hope this is all just some enthusiastic young lawyers doing and Lord Gaben will step in and fix this if there’s enough attention on this.
Granhier
G….Gaben bad?!
TomTomXD1234
I have a feeling this is just some lawyers not realising what they are actually doing and that this will be resolved in a few days, especially when it picks up steam online (pun intended)
Slothcom_eMemes
Rare Valve L.
cyb3rmuffin
What even is it?
NatomicBombs
Something something piracy is a service problem quote.
Something happened with TF2 classic.
sIeepai
No surprise there valve are not good guys
BebopBlues9
I heard the reason they sent the cease and desist is it had some of the original code which was contained some pretty bad vulnerabilities for valve. This is just a rumor though.
Swyteh
Got kicked hard in the balls by Riot when they C&D Chronoshift long ago, aka a classic league version. And now this.
Everything really is about money huh
LowGeeMan
What’s Valve’s official stance?
Bydlak_Bootsy
So to paint you a better picture, it’s the same company that greenlit Hunt Down the Freeman, which is complete dumpster fire that does nothing than hurt the brand. And now decides to take down some mod they greenlit years ago.
I don’t know, to me it’s weird.
Beginning-Wing-333
That sucks, was hoping to see it released.
BaxxyNut
Rare valve L, Gaben fix this
Alpr101
8 years dev and never herd of the game until it got cancelled.
tetshi
This is such a garbage excuse. They’ve allowed TONS and TONS of Half-Life 2 mods, fan mods that continue to story, etc. Never was an issue. Whack.
Creepernom
I somehow can’t imagine it’s as simple as that.
TomTomXD1234
Someone is saying that this team was using source engine hacks that valve asked them repeatedly not to use. Is this true?
Feel like there is a valve side to this story.
DarkWingedEagle
The problem apparently is they used a hacky workaround to steam apis/source to make it work were told that the workaround wasn’t allowed and then found an even hackier one. Valve hasn’t publicly commented but what appears to have happened is Valve informed them the first solution wouldn’t work then something happened to make Valve stop talking to them, four years ago for one reason or another, personally given the fact they have had multiple public meltdowns over it probably something to do with them being a bit of a pain. They then implemented the second hackier work around then earlier this year Valve revoked the app id, they had a twitter meltdown then tried to release without it thus getting the c&d.
EdzyFPS
Are people really surprised that steam rides the “good guy” train, but underneath they are just like any other corporate entity?
Their whole service is one big DRM package.
Pinapplespace
to be honest i really can’t see a bad reason for valve to just cancel the project because it would just not make any sense, after 8 years of development they just cancel it like that? These guys must have done something that valve said they aren’t allowed to do or something idk
Doppelkammertoaster
People have to see that Valve is a company. Much of the consumer friendly stuff was forced on them by lawmakers. Just look at how absolutely horrible the monetisation of CS is. It’s no wonder they want to limit mods.
Klutzy-Feature-3484
TLDR: They submitted the build on Steam, but it was [rejected](https://classic-offensive.net/assets/events/steam_refusal.jpg). They announced release on ModDB and Valve informed them saying it’s against the Steam Subscriber Agreement. They tried contacting people at Valve but got no response.
PermissionSoggy891
I wouldn’t be as mad as I am if counter strike 2 didn’t suck complete dick (would be the only thing “complete” about that fuckass early access game)
OB_Chris
Gaben just wants y’all so he can farm super yachts. Reminder: people selling you products have never been your friends
NothingTooSeriousM8
Abrupt actions by Valve… does this mean Halflife 3?
ProbablyBanksy
Counterstrike only exists because of the modding community. They’ve forgotten where they came from
HoordSS
Isn’t these guys that were hacking the shit out of the source engine, exposing several security flaws & was told by Valve to stop it? & instead of doing that had an public meltdown on twitter?
evangael
Someone mail gabe. This must have been a mistake.
Sleepaiz
Oh no
CrystalPlasma
Real bitches play critical ops
ScarletSilver
As always, there are two sides to every story. Given Valve’s good track record with the community, I’m inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and wait for them to respond.
Also, several comments here have been mentioning that this team allegedly went against Valve’s suggestions / guidelines and hacked their way around the Source engine, including parts that aren’t open source. If that’s the case, it would really make sense for Valve to have done what they did.
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That’s gotta be a kick in the balls wasting eight years for somebody to go no we are canceling it
Steam has always been the good guy at the end of the day, so I hope this is all just some enthusiastic young lawyers doing and Lord Gaben will step in and fix this if there’s enough attention on this.
G….Gaben bad?!
I have a feeling this is just some lawyers not realising what they are actually doing and that this will be resolved in a few days, especially when it picks up steam online (pun intended)
Rare Valve L.
What even is it?
Something something piracy is a service problem quote.
Something happened with TF2 classic.
No surprise there valve are not good guys
I heard the reason they sent the cease and desist is it had some of the original code which was contained some pretty bad vulnerabilities for valve. This is just a rumor though.
Got kicked hard in the balls by Riot when they C&D Chronoshift long ago, aka a classic league version. And now this.
Everything really is about money huh
What’s Valve’s official stance?
So to paint you a better picture, it’s the same company that greenlit Hunt Down the Freeman, which is complete dumpster fire that does nothing than hurt the brand. And now decides to take down some mod they greenlit years ago.
I don’t know, to me it’s weird.
That sucks, was hoping to see it released.
Rare valve L, Gaben fix this
8 years dev and never herd of the game until it got cancelled.
This is such a garbage excuse. They’ve allowed TONS and TONS of Half-Life 2 mods, fan mods that continue to story, etc. Never was an issue. Whack.
I somehow can’t imagine it’s as simple as that.
Someone is saying that this team was using source engine hacks that valve asked them repeatedly not to use. Is this true?
Feel like there is a valve side to this story.
The problem apparently is they used a hacky workaround to steam apis/source to make it work were told that the workaround wasn’t allowed and then found an even hackier one. Valve hasn’t publicly commented but what appears to have happened is Valve informed them the first solution wouldn’t work then something happened to make Valve stop talking to them, four years ago for one reason or another, personally given the fact they have had multiple public meltdowns over it probably something to do with them being a bit of a pain. They then implemented the second hackier work around then earlier this year Valve revoked the app id, they had a twitter meltdown then tried to release without it thus getting the c&d.
Are people really surprised that steam rides the “good guy” train, but underneath they are just like any other corporate entity?
Their whole service is one big DRM package.
to be honest i really can’t see a bad reason for valve to just cancel the project because it would just not make any sense, after 8 years of development they just cancel it like that? These guys must have done something that valve said they aren’t allowed to do or something idk
People have to see that Valve is a company. Much of the consumer friendly stuff was forced on them by lawmakers. Just look at how absolutely horrible the monetisation of CS is. It’s no wonder they want to limit mods.
TLDR: They submitted the build on Steam, but it was [rejected](https://classic-offensive.net/assets/events/steam_refusal.jpg). They announced release on ModDB and Valve informed them saying it’s against the Steam Subscriber Agreement. They tried contacting people at Valve but got no response.
I wouldn’t be as mad as I am if counter strike 2 didn’t suck complete dick (would be the only thing “complete” about that fuckass early access game)
Gaben just wants y’all so he can farm super yachts. Reminder: people selling you products have never been your friends
Abrupt actions by Valve… does this mean Halflife 3?
Counterstrike only exists because of the modding community. They’ve forgotten where they came from
Isn’t these guys that were hacking the shit out of the source engine, exposing several security flaws & was told by Valve to stop it? & instead of doing that had an public meltdown on twitter?
Someone mail gabe. This must have been a mistake.
Oh no
Real bitches play critical ops
As always, there are two sides to every story. Given Valve’s good track record with the community, I’m inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and wait for them to respond.
Also, several comments here have been mentioning that this team allegedly went against Valve’s suggestions / guidelines and hacked their way around the Source engine, including parts that aren’t open source. If that’s the case, it would really make sense for Valve to have done what they did.
Valve going the Shitendo/Actishition route! Nice!