You make this argument like everyone isn’t already taking your data and selling it.. your ISP, your facebook, Steam, netflix.. your data has already been gathered and sold
wheresmyspacebar2
Steam, Epic, EA App, Microsoft (2 times Including Xbox), Reddit, Facebook, Nintendo.
Literally EVERY single thing you log on to or use on the internet is collecting and selling your data to everyone that gives them a few quid.
Anyone that is posting on Reddit and thinks their data isn’t in a system list somewhere is mad.
strooiersunion
Selling your data and having higher user metrics to show to shareholders will get them way more money than selling their games in those countries.
HeilYourself
User data = money.
Ordinary_Koala_6910
They basically the same
informationadiction
>Give Data to credit card company
>Give Data to ISP
>Give Data to Microsoft
>Give Data to google
>Give Data to gpu company
>Give Data to cpu company
>Give Data to steam
>Sony asks for Data
>Give Data to Reddit to post
“This is disgusting and an invasion of our privacy”
I get it somewhat but the extent of the outrage made me laugh, mostly sucks that this outrage caused Steam and Sony to come to the conclusion of having to ban the sale of games in certain regions.
Hakunamateo
Steam user data. Oh no…
All these privacy people are insane. They won’t have your medical records. They’ll just know you play those weird games you don’t want your friends to see.
QouthTheCorvus
Not many people are going to boycott their games over it. I get the moving of goalposts was annoying for Helldivers, but it’s hard to get upset over a login tbh.
I feel like Redditors are kind of addicted to rage
Legitimate-Skill-112
Synonyms
DarthRiznat
….which in turn IS more money
NickFieldson31
Why cant we even buy the games from here? Why arent we allowed to just make a PSN account?
notKomithEr
don’t worry, the torrent won’t ask for psn login
mamadovah1102
You’re smooth brained if you think your data hasn’t already been bought and sold by all the other entities you share it with.
Homicidal_Pingu
They’ll sell a ton anyway and it’s not that profitable for them on PC anyway.
TomatoVEVO
If they liked sale money then they would have released Bloodborne already
grapejuicecheese
What user data is there to sell though?
All of my PSN accounts are from other countries with fake addresses and not much else.
6IACKK
Well reddit asked for sonys current “controversy” by not wanting a psn account so Sony obliged them by removing that requirement (and the ability to buy those games) in 180 countries
Careful what you ask for I guess 👍
StrictLimitForever
How does a company selling my fake information make them money?
SoGSparta122101
Yeah I believe that all their top selling games are played elsewhere. Minecraft CoD Sea of Thieves grounded Rocket League Fortnite ect. They play their exclusives the least and if they do they are the hardcore diehards that need to 100 percent the game cause they have so little else to play or want to play. Fanboys only want a certain style game 3rd person story driven open world and everything else is trash to them. I have multiple friends who have and only play PS and yet they have none of the exclusives downloaded maybe one and have nothing but 3rd party games lol and I ask why don’t you just play it on Xbox or PC where it’s easier and they don’t have an answer for me just that’s what I’ve always used. I swear brand loyalty for people is crazy ridiculous.
dankyspank
Money loses its value because of inflation sooner or later. User data is always priceless
Firm_Knowledge_5695
Their the exact same thing
xBesto
I said it before during the Helldivers fiasco and I’ll say it again. I’ll never understand the outrage about having to make an account.
(Leave the “people in certain countries…” stuff alone, we all know the majority of people complaining aren’t from those countries. Those who are, have legitimate arguments, to a point.)
dj-nek0
Ghost of Tsushima was their biggest seller on PC and required PSN…
proletariate54
User data is far more valuable than a few extra sales on a given day.
Atourq
When did r/gaming fill up with Sony fanboyism and overall elitism?
While a lot of solid arguments I agree with. The user data does make them more money and that making an account is the norm for gamers these days. You can’t simply argue that “yeah it’s normal to have to sign into an account, what’s the difference?”. There is a point to be made that there’s a difference between making an account for a mostly globally inclusive account system (almost everyone else) and a largely inclusive one that caters to less than half the global countries (Sony).
A lot of the restriction has to do with the services that PSN is meant to provide (thus expanding it is an expensive undertaking). This is largely in part to, what I believe, Sony not fully understanding the PC market. They’re looking at the account system from a console perspective.
Also I’m curious how the game sales numbers people report about even count the amount refunds Steam forcibly issued to pre-orders of GoT.
Viper114
I’m starting to feel that there are those who are trying to continue to perpetuate the console wars, only instead of it being PS vs Xbox since Xbox is currently imploding on itself, it’s now going to be specifically PS vs PC, and they’re going to try and use every excuse they can to make only Sony seem terrible and not any of the other companies.
Remnant_Echo
I still remember the Sonybois(Ponys) saying it was Steam preventing the sales in those regions instead of Sony, and that Sony would never pass up money(game sales) for something as basic as user account data. Then Steam came out and said they only prevent sales when requested by the developers and the list was directly from Sony for all their games.
At this point those comments have aged like spoiled milk. The high seas are already coming back in style with 14 different streaming services, Sony has decided to join Nintendo to help bring it back into the gaming scene.
BlackLandon
Money vs even more money
disper
You don’t need a Reddit account to use Reddit but it helps a lot. It’s still their private property
bsousa717
You cannot be serious with this post. Like any other part of the Internet doesn’t already have your data lmao
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You make this argument like everyone isn’t already taking your data and selling it.. your ISP, your facebook, Steam, netflix.. your data has already been gathered and sold
Steam, Epic, EA App, Microsoft (2 times Including Xbox), Reddit, Facebook, Nintendo.
Literally EVERY single thing you log on to or use on the internet is collecting and selling your data to everyone that gives them a few quid.
Anyone that is posting on Reddit and thinks their data isn’t in a system list somewhere is mad.
Selling your data and having higher user metrics to show to shareholders will get them way more money than selling their games in those countries.
User data = money.
They basically the same
>Give Data to credit card company
>Give Data to ISP
>Give Data to Microsoft
>Give Data to google
>Give Data to gpu company
>Give Data to cpu company
>Give Data to steam
>Sony asks for Data
>Give Data to Reddit to post
“This is disgusting and an invasion of our privacy”
I get it somewhat but the extent of the outrage made me laugh, mostly sucks that this outrage caused Steam and Sony to come to the conclusion of having to ban the sale of games in certain regions.
Steam user data. Oh no…
All these privacy people are insane. They won’t have your medical records. They’ll just know you play those weird games you don’t want your friends to see.
Not many people are going to boycott their games over it. I get the moving of goalposts was annoying for Helldivers, but it’s hard to get upset over a login tbh.
I feel like Redditors are kind of addicted to rage
Synonyms
….which in turn IS more money
Why cant we even buy the games from here? Why arent we allowed to just make a PSN account?
don’t worry, the torrent won’t ask for psn login
You’re smooth brained if you think your data hasn’t already been bought and sold by all the other entities you share it with.
They’ll sell a ton anyway and it’s not that profitable for them on PC anyway.
If they liked sale money then they would have released Bloodborne already
What user data is there to sell though?
All of my PSN accounts are from other countries with fake addresses and not much else.
Well reddit asked for sonys current “controversy” by not wanting a psn account so Sony obliged them by removing that requirement (and the ability to buy those games) in 180 countries
Careful what you ask for I guess 👍
How does a company selling my fake information make them money?
Yeah I believe that all their top selling games are played elsewhere. Minecraft CoD Sea of Thieves grounded Rocket League Fortnite ect. They play their exclusives the least and if they do they are the hardcore diehards that need to 100 percent the game cause they have so little else to play or want to play. Fanboys only want a certain style game 3rd person story driven open world and everything else is trash to them. I have multiple friends who have and only play PS and yet they have none of the exclusives downloaded maybe one and have nothing but 3rd party games lol and I ask why don’t you just play it on Xbox or PC where it’s easier and they don’t have an answer for me just that’s what I’ve always used. I swear brand loyalty for people is crazy ridiculous.
Money loses its value because of inflation sooner or later. User data is always priceless
Their the exact same thing
I said it before during the Helldivers fiasco and I’ll say it again. I’ll never understand the outrage about having to make an account.
(Leave the “people in certain countries…” stuff alone, we all know the majority of people complaining aren’t from those countries. Those who are, have legitimate arguments, to a point.)
Ghost of Tsushima was their biggest seller on PC and required PSN…
User data is far more valuable than a few extra sales on a given day.
When did r/gaming fill up with Sony fanboyism and overall elitism?
While a lot of solid arguments I agree with. The user data does make them more money and that making an account is the norm for gamers these days. You can’t simply argue that “yeah it’s normal to have to sign into an account, what’s the difference?”. There is a point to be made that there’s a difference between making an account for a mostly globally inclusive account system (almost everyone else) and a largely inclusive one that caters to less than half the global countries (Sony).
A lot of the restriction has to do with the services that PSN is meant to provide (thus expanding it is an expensive undertaking). This is largely in part to, what I believe, Sony not fully understanding the PC market. They’re looking at the account system from a console perspective.
Also I’m curious how the game sales numbers people report about even count the amount refunds Steam forcibly issued to pre-orders of GoT.
I’m starting to feel that there are those who are trying to continue to perpetuate the console wars, only instead of it being PS vs Xbox since Xbox is currently imploding on itself, it’s now going to be specifically PS vs PC, and they’re going to try and use every excuse they can to make only Sony seem terrible and not any of the other companies.
I still remember the Sonybois(Ponys) saying it was Steam preventing the sales in those regions instead of Sony, and that Sony would never pass up money(game sales) for something as basic as user account data. Then Steam came out and said they only prevent sales when requested by the developers and the list was directly from Sony for all their games.
At this point those comments have aged like spoiled milk. The high seas are already coming back in style with 14 different streaming services, Sony has decided to join Nintendo to help bring it back into the gaming scene.
Money vs even more money
You don’t need a Reddit account to use Reddit but it helps a lot. It’s still their private property
You cannot be serious with this post. Like any other part of the Internet doesn’t already have your data lmao