Would he have a chance? I know they have a rivalry but I don't remember hearing if they ever fought face to face. In a battle to the death, how would it go?

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  1. janek500

    Pretty balanced duel I’d say, they both have impressive cyberware set and stats, but maybe let’s wait until some classic game freak take their voice

  2. Immediate-Bluejay-84

    Pretty sure smasher killed morgan blackhand, iirc from 2077 lore tidbits…

  3. pichael289

    He would whoop his ass. Blackhand has extremely strong plot armor, but specifically against smasher. That’s smashers whole deal, no matter how strong he becomes he can’t beat blackhand and it pisses him off

  4. Scaalpel

    You kidding? Blackhand is basically the closest thing this setting has to Batman.

  5. Lionheart0622

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but…

    >! Isn’t it actually Blackhand who fights Smasher at the top of Arasaka Tower in 2023? I believe it’s been stated that Johnny’s memories as an engram are unreliable, at best. Johnny was killed during the initial encounter with Smasher and never made it back to the roof. Blackhand and Smasher fought it out, with the outcome never really being known. It’s implied he survived, because I believe there’s a throwaway dialogue in game about a shootout on a random street with the only survivor being “a guy with a black arm” or something like that. !<

  6. I think BH would win most of the time, because he is the good guy and plot armor is a thing, but they are generally more or less even, with BH being smarter and Adam being a more generally powerful character.

    2077 BH VS 2077 Adam now that is a question

  7. DismalMode7

    I think that’s a big confused part of the lore… morgan blackhand faced adam smasher because he had to buy some time to let rogue and the other leave the arasaka towers by helicopter… as smart and powerful morgan was, he was however just a cyber enhanced human against a metal gear like adam smasher in the dai oni power armor… I don’t think morgan could have realistically lasted more than 10 minutes against smaher on a 1:1 duel.

  8. Treyman1115

    They already fought during the Arasaka raid, unless CDPR is deciding to retcon this. The outcome of the fight wasn’t clear but both survived

  9. BonkersTheNexusBeing

    Blackhand would demolish him %100

  10. Reddit_is_not_great

    Balanced battle with Blackhand ending up probably on top.

  11. Night_Inscryption

    I still think the current Smasher could beat Morgan Black Hand he was outstandingly op in the anime

  12. StalinkaEnjoyer

    He already beat him in 2023. *Handily.*

  13. Didn’t Morgan nearly destroy Adam at Arasaka?

  14. Istvan_hun

    While Blackhand was a formidable combatant, his real strength was not this. Allies (sometimes the likes of Militech), contacts, planning, setting traps, multiple favors to call on.

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    I think he would not fight Smasher on the latters terms, but would set a trap for him where he is cut from the Arasaka resources.

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  16. He… he literally fights him at Arasaka lol

  17. **Blackhand was the one who fucked up Smasher in the first place.** If he hasn’t lost his touch, he could likely still beat Smasher in 2077.

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