Motherboard makers apparently to blame for high-end Intel Core i9 CPU failures
Motherboard makers apparently to blame for high-end Intel Core i9 CPU failures
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No personal experience with this but I thought it appropriate to post here just in case someone might be affected.
It’s a bit more complicated than the title lets on. Intel allowed mobo makers to set ridiculous limits and they in turn ran with it. Both sides are technically at fault here, but in the end the motherboard manufacturers should have known better
It’s kind of a parallel to how they increased voltages on AM5 board BIOS outside of spec and caused issues there not very long ago.
It’s so frustrating, I’ve seen this cause different i9 chips thermal throttle while being cooled with a 360 AIO, turn the “feature” off and the temps go down to an expected range.
This is like the adult version of he said, she said.
Intel told motherboard partners to run without limits. Whoever did this article only tried to make the catchiest headline. Intel is at fault for not binning the CPUs correctly to handle no power limits
It’s really Intel’s fault though. While Intel gave “recommended” specs, they were not required to adhere to those (and let’s be real, Intel wants to see the highest numbers they could on benchmarks). Now that it’s a problem, they want to blame the motherboard vendors for doing what Intel allowed them to do. It’s on Intel to set baseline requirements for its CPUs and define what default behavior should and should not be.
I’m not saying the board vendors were smart in doing what they did, but the fact they could is on Intel.
HUB did a video on it, and in it they show an email from Intel on the record stating ultra high power targets are “in spec” (this was not for this socket to be fair, but it shows their general attitude about it. Well, maybe until now lol). [https://youtu.be/OdF5erDRO-c?si=lCHFJx_OPGajAW0b](https://youtu.be/OdF5erDRO-c?si=lCHFJx_OPGajAW0b)
My god, the inconsistency I’m experiencing with my i9-13900K + NZXT n7 z790 + 360MM AIO is maddening. I need help.
Going above the power limit should have to be enabled by the user not enabled by default.
Not jusy i9 ones. My i7 14700k had the same issue. Hitting 100° under load. Turned the option off in the bios and it gets to a max of 85° now.
This is incorrect, the recent hardware unboxed video shows evidence that the high power limits are IN SPEC with quotes from Intel representative saying exactly as much, very clearly saying it.
Except Intel not condoned this and said it was within spec to Dr. Ian Cutress in an interview. And now, as it’s blowing up their face, they’re blaming the board partners like they had no idea it was going on or had any level of control over the situation. It’s laughable to blame this on the board partners… this is 100% Intel’s fault.
I updated my BIOS and set my PC to run with Intel’s limits but honestly I hadn’t had thermal issues or stability problems with it using ASUS’s defaults. I may set it back. Or not – it runs all my stuff plenty fast for me.
This happens when people blindly follow some YouTuber’s guide “how to overclock your CPU, MaX peRFoRmAncE +50%!!!” without any clue they actually disable all safety features for unnoticeable performance gain. I would say, well deserved.