Fallout London’s project lead is not taking the surprise drop of Fallout 4’s update well: ‘That has, for a lack of a better term, screwed us over’
Fallout London’s project lead is not taking the surprise drop of Fallout 4’s update well: ‘That has, for a lack of a better term, screwed us over’
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People trying to create drama where there is none smh…
Tough shit? I don’t see how it’s on Bethesda to loop in unofficial modders in their plans. It sucks for the team but Bethesda doesn’t owe them anything.
Why should they expect Bethesda to reach out to every modder just in case?
Likewise, the Fallout 4 next gen upgrade makes sense, given the timing: They want to drop it right when people are finishing up watching the series, and two weeks after release feels like a reasonable time frame.
They didn’t screw you over. Unless I’m missing something, shouldn’t players still be able to mod their current version of Fallout 4? It’s not like you’re going to forced to update.
I’m not a modding expert, but would there be a way for them to roll out the mod, and play it on an older version of F4?
Hopefully they can figure it out though
Next gen update is cool and all, but I wish Bethesda did Fallout 5 instead of Starfield. Or hell, just let Obsidian take the reins again and make a NV2 or west coast based game.
Wasn’t the update rumored to come out this year. People have been predicting it for a few years now.
Headline: Non-employee of game dev owned by company with multi-trillion dollar market cap expects to be cc’d in to major decisions/releases.
“Carter can’t figure out why the team wasn’t just asked to sign an NDA so they could be filled in with everything going on”
Is this guy an actual baby?
I’ve said it before, i’ll say it again. We all knew this update was coming. People should stop having a baby-like tantrum over this shit. But no…
I’m just here to eat popcorn and watch the comments war about how prevalent modding is and whether a billion dollar company owes all their success to modders.
I knew the update was coming, Fallout mod dev should probably know.
I understand the frustration, but come the hell on dude! Who do you think you are? I read the IGN article about this yesterday and he comes off entitled/ whiny. I get that is an ambitious project that you sank a lot of resources into; but I can’t find any info on Team Folon being in contacts with Bethesda initially. Why would a billion-dollar mega corporation rope in a team of modders for a heads up? Their mod is niche, the next-gen update covers the entirety of their playerbases. Do like most mod teams do and just adapt. Expecting anyone from Bethesda to reach out was/ is moronic and completely self-absorbed.
Uh. You’re an unofficial modding team. Your mod isn’t sponsored or paid for by Bethesda. Why does Bethesda need to inform you that they’re updating the game? They literally owe you nothing.
like I could understand if they were working with Bethesda but it’s literally a third party mod. The fact that this team went crying to the BBC News says it all about them, they’re butt hurt children.
Can we stop upvoting this same fucking article every single fucking day?
Manufactured controversy lmao. Updates break mods, fire is hot, water is wet. More news at 6.
An update came for a game that they are passionate about to do an extensive mod for and they are pissy? Lol ok. It’s not like it’s a fucking engine overhaul
Didn’t they announce this update two years ago?
I do think they should’ve been preparing for this. It seemed like a very unsurprising surprise to me.
This feels more like a means of propping up and advertising the mod than anything else. I don’t agree with a lot of what Bethesda has done but this seems like a non-issue.
We don’t know why the daye was chosen. Hell, it could have been around release of the series but they themselves had a delay due to issues. Regardless, easy breakdown is an unofficial mod being worked on. Patch is coming out and because if patch, the mod would need to be delayed.
>”But if you were a big corporation and there was a fantastic [Fallout TV] series that just came out, you think you’d coalign it and have the big update ready on the same day the series comes out,” Carter argues. “I don’t think it’s malicious, but it seems like a very arbitrary date for them to drop.”
Absolutely hilarious that this modder thinks Bethesda thinks about them at all.
I fully support modders… But saying Bethesda “screwed them over” implies that Bethesda had some kind of agreement with these guys and intentionally made a decision that they knew would harm them when I think we all known that probably wasn’t the case
“We chose to release it now because the show just came out… Why did Bethesda choose to release it now? The timing is so arbitrary.”
I’m pretty confident Bethesda didn’t even give Fallout London a second thought. The release date of the FO4 next gen update has nothing to do with a PC mod. Furthermore, Bethesda and Microsoft did not owe any forewarning to the modders.
Why are people so angry? Am I missing something?
It’s unfortunate for sure, I was definitely wanting to try this.
This is stupid
Unpopular Opinion: This isn’t news. It’s great the the community wants to make mods and that Bethesda has even provided tools to help with creating mods. Something that Bethesda has never officially supported are the script extenders. So are we really surprised that when Bethesda pushes out a major update to a game that they created that unofficial tools will likely break?
Sure it would have been nice to for Bethesda to give more of a heads up on the update to the community, but honestly you can’t be offended that they didn’t reach out to everyone doing unofficial projects.
I mean, tough, that’s the risk you run when making mods for a game that you didn’t make. Like, it totally sucks but it’s always a possibility with updates.
Jesus the entitlement of this guy… Insinuating it was malicious, saying Bethesda should have coordinated with them… Why the fuck would or should Bethesda care?
You’re making a mod for someone else’s property my man, this is part of that.
So an independent mod team, with literally zero connections to Bethesda, is upset that they weren’t consulted/notified ahead of time that Bethesda was updating their game?
I mean, it’s neat that they’re making a mod I suppose, but Bethesda doesn’t owe them anything.
Who would’ve thought that they’d release it near the TV show release.
Got really tired of typing *Fallout 4 update* into Google and getting clickbait headlines about this. Soured me on the entire idea.
Bethesda modders are exhausting.
Can someone explain it to me? What happened to F4?
When talking about how some ‘fans’ of this mod were directing their frustration at Bethesda, the developer of this mod says that it’s “inevitable when there’s that lack of communication. So I just wish that they had a conversation with us” LMAO, sorry, what? Bethesda…the multimillion dollar company over in America that was bought out by Microsoft for nearly 8 billion dollars…they should have discussed things with some random nobody in charge of a fan mod which makes them no money?
Deluded. Carry on Bethesda, I’ve got big schadenfreude for this one lol
Am I the only one who feels like this was never going to actually release and that they’re using the next-gen update as an excuse? Cause they’ve known about this update for well over a year. I’m supposed to believe that they were blindsided?
Very…narcisstic. Like…whoa. Alluding to them doing it on purpose… Not being consulted? Who the hell are you to bethesda, guy?
I mean, yeah, it sucks man but get a little perspective. Holy hell. Bethesda doesn’t give half a shit about modders’ plans and timelines. Why would they? They almost certainly have no idea what Fallout London is or who is behind it. Why in the world would anyone think they’d be consulted in this situation?
Not to mention, this isn’t the first time a major update has happened while large-scale mod projects are being worked on. Nor is it the first we’ve heard of this next gen update coming. It’s been on the books for what? Like a year or so now?
Cost of doing business, so to speak. Adapt and move on. Or don’t. In any case, they don’t owe you any special consideration. Get real.
Holy shit the vitriol in these comments.
I get the vibe that they would’ve been delaying release even without this surprise update I’ve seen people talking about for the last couple of years.
>”had zero correspondence with Bethesda,” but even so, Carter can’t figure out why the team wasn’t just asked to sign an NDA so they could be filled in with everything going on instead of “blindsiding us out of nowhere.” Granted, this would have solved Fallout London’s problems, but even still, for a large company to involve an independent modding team like that would be unprecedented.
This is the most arrogant thing I have ever read.