I keep hearing that Johnny conflates his experience at Arasaka tower with that of Morgan Blackhand and that this scene never happened and Smasher one shotted him and didn’t care about him at all. If that’s true then why did smasher go out of his way to get keepsakes of Johnny’s like his car and gun. The gun must’ve needed restoration after the explosion and Johnny’s car wasn’t even AT THE SITE! So smasher had to go on a damn scav hunt just the find it. Then he uses the gun as a reward to his top lieutenant and puts the car (that he’s probably too big to even drive) In a high tech freezer to preserve it for 50+ years as a trophy. Seems like a lot of work for someone he couldn’t care less about. Is there a reason for his behavior in lore? Because if not I see it as a major plot hole.
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From what I remember. Smasher and Morgan had rivaly. Johnny got one-shotted and overall just… died in not very blazy way. His engram, thinks otherwise, because of his huge ego (and cock) And thinks he had rivaly with Smasher. Also Adam didn’t got Morgan, so he took second best thing, the leftovers from Johnny. More like a humiliation.
I’m sure someone will explain it better.
Smasher probably found Johnny to be out of his league but good enough to be on his radar, at least in the way that a fly in your living room might be annoying but not really considered to be a threat.
Johnny was never going to beat Smasher in a fight. Yeah he has military experience but he’s entirely too brash, lacked the tech, got ambushed. Morgan Blackhand is being written into being on par with Smasher despite no enhancements because he IS Mike Pondsmiths character. Morgan borders on being a gag character in the universe and should arguably not be taken seriously.
Nope. Johnny’s flashbacks in 2077 were not accurate so the “Told you I’ll end you someday” like was a nothing burger. In fact, Smasher was obsessed with Johnny Silverhand at one point of time, collecting his belongings. It was an obsession, nothing more. Kinda like a phase.
However, Smasher had a one sided rivalry with Morgan Blackhand because of the “meat vs machine” thing. He holds hatred towards Blackhand but Blackhand doesn’t hold the same regard to Smasher.
In the old lore it was a Morgan Blackhand/Smasher – rivalry…………but ONE-SIDED on Smasher’s part. He was beyond angry there was someone so equally ( and quite possibly better) skilled with him, that had little – to NO cyberware. It debunked Smasher’s creed of ” Metal is better than meat”. On the other hand Morgan didn’t give two fucks about Arasaka’s attack dog….AT ALL. It enraged Smasher to no end (Real Vegeta vibes)
In fact in the old lore it was Blackhand and Smasher fighting on Arasaka HQ rooftop when it was destroyed, not Johnny and Smasher. I think CDPR worked a “rivalry” between the two for CP2077 story, maybe with Mike Pondsmith’s blessing
If you want to connect cyberpunk 2077 to any of its sister products, no. I personally, for the sake of immersion, take the game as an standalone self contained experience and go along with Johnny. It’s too sad setting already, I don’t want to deal with the possibility that ontop of all that Johnny is also a pathetic second class loser
But that’s just my copium for ❤️ Keanu ❤️ and cdpr talking through me
Johnny had a rivalry with Adam. Adam was a fan of Samurai so he collected the things. That’s pretty much the end of their “relationship”.
I’d argue that Johnny had the grudge against Smasher rather than the other way around.
To about the same level as you would hold a grudge against a mildly annoying mosquito you killed a couple decades ago.
He nothing’d Johnny. Johnny likes to romanticize his memories of his death.