Not a hologram, more like a visual hallucination, so the shadow makes sense.
ScotDOS
How can he grab a chair and sit on it? How can he push V over?
No_Tamanegi
He’s not a hologram, he’s a projection that lives entirely in V’s mind. V knows that people should have shadows, V’s mind accepts Johnny’s personhood, therefore Johnny has a shadow.
This leaves a little need for explaining why Johnny “glitches out” when V gets too close to him. I guess that’s the relic coping with V and Johnny occupying the same space.
aegisasaerian
shoot him, he bleeds
Chaosrealm69
No, Johnny is a engram in your mind. So he is basically a visual hallucination that you can see moving around and ‘talking’ to you. It’s all in your mind so he can have shadows and move around rooms and appear to sit or stand in various locations.
ZXareo
I mean, Johnny is there too. He shouldn’t be, and literally isn’t as confirmed by Phantom Liberty. Shadow could just be like how Johnny is there.
dinoooow
He’s not a hologram. A projection I guess? V’s mind fills the gap.
MajorStorm3145
It’s the same reason he shown to move objects and push V down, it’s all in Vs head.
turtleandpleco
more of a hallucination actually
Draedark
Apparently, you have yet to witness V’s shadow…..
wasptube1
He’s not a hologram, he’s a construct inside V’s head, projected as a visual entity through V’s eyes and the brain being a very powerful processor could visualise a shadow for V’s Silverhand construct.
Faceless_Deviant
He’s not. He’s a constructed hallucination
ElHombreSmokin
He is also hallucinating his shadow.
MuddVader
He can even interact with the environment, but only in V’s head. Once he’s done, things pop back to how they actually are.
It’s more than just a hologram.
He’s integrated into V’s perception of reality.
GoodMan_1996
Shadow also isnt real
pablo5426
hallucination actually
SumthinDank
yeh true huh
Maximum-Pause-6914
he also moves a whole chair after you go to clouds looking for Evelyn but no one talks about it
Potato_Octopi
You’re telling me you can imagine a person but a shadow is too much?
Keidek
Your brain makes it real.
gordonv
Guys,
There’s a saying when it comes to films. “Suspend your disbelief.”
From the movie **Inception**, this would be like someone ranting on a dream machine couldn’t fit into a suitcase and not look like a laptop.
That’s not the point of the movie.
Just like how **Inception’s** point is the effect of the machine on the mind, the point of Johnny’s projection is that it’s real enough for V, and the effect of that projection on an otherwise normal thug.
theLOLflashlight
Even if he was a hologram, if you can’t see through him, he’ll cast a shadow
Transitsystem
Video game engine man, don’t think too hard about it
Bumbleet2
By that logic, light wouldn’t be reflecting off of Johnny’s body.
KiN3tiCParaDox
I used to ask questions like this… Then I took an arrow to the knee….
Unlimitles
“Your mind makes it real”
Bright-Union-6157
Well V shouldn’t be seeing him at all. He experiences what he/she does. It’s just for reference and to show some famous person in a video game. I skip all his shit. One of the least compelling game characters in memory.
_Doshi
I was really confused about how Johnny works when *someone* grabs V from behind and Johnny says that he can only see what V sees so he doesn’t know who’s the person behind
Reaper-Leviathan
It’s pretty inconsistent what Johnny actually is. In PL when Reed sits behind you he says he sees through your eyes and can’t see anything you can’t see. But in other jobs it’s as if he can move around and see through the projection that V sees. Some times Johnny physically interacts with V and during gameplay (probably for said gameplay’s convenience) V can more right through Johnny.
T0ta1_n00b
My favorite Johnny detail is the cigarette floating in the air before or after he materializes
Affectionate_Kick705
Is he stupid?
oiluj213
he’s all in your head, including his shadow.
femmechanuwu
Here’s what I think; like other people mentioned I think he’s a projection of V’s mind therefore he can change V’s perception. Like when he punches us in the beginning scene, when we black out after relic malfunction we can see him grab our wrist, and again when he interacts with a stool and we perceive it to have moved.. I think part of it might be that the engram is the parasite, body is the host, therefore the body just yields to whatever the “host” perceives the physical world to be. Like when Johnny says he can only see what we see.
This is why I think he has a shadow, we perceive him to take up matter in space just as well as seeing him alter the position of objects, so, maybe just brain supplementing what it thinks should be there.
AdPuzzleheaded8634
How do you have a shadow? Isn’t this a simulation?
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Not a hologram, more like a visual hallucination, so the shadow makes sense.
How can he grab a chair and sit on it? How can he push V over?
He’s not a hologram, he’s a projection that lives entirely in V’s mind. V knows that people should have shadows, V’s mind accepts Johnny’s personhood, therefore Johnny has a shadow.
This leaves a little need for explaining why Johnny “glitches out” when V gets too close to him. I guess that’s the relic coping with V and Johnny occupying the same space.
shoot him, he bleeds
No, Johnny is a engram in your mind. So he is basically a visual hallucination that you can see moving around and ‘talking’ to you. It’s all in your mind so he can have shadows and move around rooms and appear to sit or stand in various locations.
I mean, Johnny is there too. He shouldn’t be, and literally isn’t as confirmed by Phantom Liberty. Shadow could just be like how Johnny is there.
He’s not a hologram. A projection I guess? V’s mind fills the gap.
It’s the same reason he shown to move objects and push V down, it’s all in Vs head.
more of a hallucination actually
Apparently, you have yet to witness V’s shadow…..
He’s not a hologram, he’s a construct inside V’s head, projected as a visual entity through V’s eyes and the brain being a very powerful processor could visualise a shadow for V’s Silverhand construct.
He’s not. He’s a constructed hallucination
He is also hallucinating his shadow.
He can even interact with the environment, but only in V’s head. Once he’s done, things pop back to how they actually are.
It’s more than just a hologram.
He’s integrated into V’s perception of reality.
Shadow also isnt real
hallucination actually
yeh true huh
he also moves a whole chair after you go to clouds looking for Evelyn but no one talks about it
You’re telling me you can imagine a person but a shadow is too much?
Your brain makes it real.
Guys,
There’s a saying when it comes to films. “Suspend your disbelief.”
From the movie **Inception**, this would be like someone ranting on a dream machine couldn’t fit into a suitcase and not look like a laptop.
That’s not the point of the movie.
Just like how **Inception’s** point is the effect of the machine on the mind, the point of Johnny’s projection is that it’s real enough for V, and the effect of that projection on an otherwise normal thug.
Even if he was a hologram, if you can’t see through him, he’ll cast a shadow
Video game engine man, don’t think too hard about it
By that logic, light wouldn’t be reflecting off of Johnny’s body.
I used to ask questions like this… Then I took an arrow to the knee….
“Your mind makes it real”
Well V shouldn’t be seeing him at all. He experiences what he/she does. It’s just for reference and to show some famous person in a video game. I skip all his shit. One of the least compelling game characters in memory.
I was really confused about how Johnny works when *someone* grabs V from behind and Johnny says that he can only see what V sees so he doesn’t know who’s the person behind
It’s pretty inconsistent what Johnny actually is. In PL when Reed sits behind you he says he sees through your eyes and can’t see anything you can’t see. But in other jobs it’s as if he can move around and see through the projection that V sees. Some times Johnny physically interacts with V and during gameplay (probably for said gameplay’s convenience) V can more right through Johnny.
My favorite Johnny detail is the cigarette floating in the air before or after he materializes
Is he stupid?
he’s all in your head, including his shadow.
Here’s what I think; like other people mentioned I think he’s a projection of V’s mind therefore he can change V’s perception. Like when he punches us in the beginning scene, when we black out after relic malfunction we can see him grab our wrist, and again when he interacts with a stool and we perceive it to have moved.. I think part of it might be that the engram is the parasite, body is the host, therefore the body just yields to whatever the “host” perceives the physical world to be. Like when Johnny says he can only see what we see.
This is why I think he has a shadow, we perceive him to take up matter in space just as well as seeing him alter the position of objects, so, maybe just brain supplementing what it thinks should be there.
How do you have a shadow? Isn’t this a simulation?
Its sort of shizophrenia
“The bun is in your mind.”