Hopefully, HOPEFULLY, this puts that gun into the ground. I’m tired of the “We want all the guns to be usable, not nerfed into the ground.” defence force.
Some guns, like the MTZ Interceptor, shouldn’t be useable. They’ve had their time in the spotlight but it’s time for Jimmy with his ranked skin to get slammed like he was supposed to instead of 6 tapping my car then 4 tapping me.
The swarms biggest problem was it’s mag capacity. Stop bringing in smgs with mags over 50 rounds. Even the new SMG is capped at 50. Like c’mon man. Hopefully this also kicks it out of meta because I’m tired of seeing people who can’t aim fire 100 rounds for free and end up getting a kill they shouldn’t have.
tr6se
Swarm still rips too 🥲
xthecerto4
About time.
Really needs nerfs to the big mags tho. 100 should allways make you a tank, im fine with 40 and 50 round mags to maintain some movement.
FIELDSLAVE
RIP king. Time for a new smg.
Eagledilla
So it eventually still got nerfed ? That’s always nice
Daimyogara
Is this update out already
EntrepreneurOk6166
I personally can’t see a difference between MTZ and KVD Enforcer handling, and Enforcer is now the pre-patch MTZ – 3 shots with 2 headshots. Just switch to that, problem solved.
Nibor0113
So what’s meta now?
Previous_Estimate_22
The MTZ should be nerfed into the damn ground. The swarm’s biggest problem was the 100-round mag, but I guess on resurgence we have a chance to use something else.
prostynick
Best swarm alternatives?
Carson_Frost
I like how the esports players won’t play The Finals since they can’t cheese with super op guns or flashy movement. The Finals is an actual competitive game where you need to use teamwork and focus, not sitting in a exp farm for two hours and uploading a tiktok about a new gun 💀
PaversPaving
So the ISO 9mm is the SMG right now?
Asleep-Permission848
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Asleep-Permission848
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wicktus
One thing changed compared to before: They are much more reactive to feedbacks.
It’s a shame S1 Reloaded released in this state tho but at the very least very frustrating points like WSP/MTZ are being adressed relatively fast compared to 1-2 years ago imho
feelinit9
When did this go into effect?
soulslide
Still pissed they merged the eradicator
buck1g
You need to revert the KATT changes
Maggot_6661
Meanwhile the weapon balance patch for mp

DippySwitch
Not trying to start a war here but I find it funny how everyone on here hates the Interceptor because it kills too fast at too long a range. But at the same time, you love one-shot snipers.
I understand that the recoil and fire rate is the big difference, but if something can one-shot someone at pretty much any distance, you only need one shot and don’t even need to worry about the recoil or fire rate.
The way I see it, if the KATT has 4x worse recoil and fire rate but only takes 1/4 of the bullets to down someone, then that makes it pretty equal to the Interceptor.
Just, how do you defend one-shot guns while being steaming mad about 3-4 shot guns?
If your answer is “but it takes more skill to use the KATT” then I think most of your anger is coming from basically “I don’t think it’s fair that less experienced/skilled players have a gun that they can kill me with. I’m really good at the game so I should be able to crush all the noobs without them having a gun that lets them fight back”.
AlternativeLack1954
Translation: “Whiney COD players ruined all the fun”
AlteredDeathX
its almost like…. it was as easy as LITERALLY backspacing on the code and changing the numbers to a lower value….
Kmanlessthan
It’s not the damage, but the recoil. That’s how you balance weapons. The skill in using weapons should be increased.
AlteredDeathX
Un-Nerf the KATT AMR Sniper
Htowng8r
Swarm needs the 100 round mag to take serious movement and ads penalties into account
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Is this good enough?
Hopefully, HOPEFULLY, this puts that gun into the ground. I’m tired of the “We want all the guns to be usable, not nerfed into the ground.” defence force.
Some guns, like the MTZ Interceptor, shouldn’t be useable. They’ve had their time in the spotlight but it’s time for Jimmy with his ranked skin to get slammed like he was supposed to instead of 6 tapping my car then 4 tapping me.
The swarms biggest problem was it’s mag capacity. Stop bringing in smgs with mags over 50 rounds. Even the new SMG is capped at 50. Like c’mon man. Hopefully this also kicks it out of meta because I’m tired of seeing people who can’t aim fire 100 rounds for free and end up getting a kill they shouldn’t have.
Swarm still rips too 🥲
About time.
Really needs nerfs to the big mags tho. 100 should allways make you a tank, im fine with 40 and 50 round mags to maintain some movement.
RIP king. Time for a new smg.
So it eventually still got nerfed ? That’s always nice
Is this update out already
I personally can’t see a difference between MTZ and KVD Enforcer handling, and Enforcer is now the pre-patch MTZ – 3 shots with 2 headshots. Just switch to that, problem solved.
So what’s meta now?
The MTZ should be nerfed into the damn ground. The swarm’s biggest problem was the 100-round mag, but I guess on resurgence we have a chance to use something else.
Best swarm alternatives?
I like how the esports players won’t play The Finals since they can’t cheese with super op guns or flashy movement. The Finals is an actual competitive game where you need to use teamwork and focus, not sitting in a exp farm for two hours and uploading a tiktok about a new gun 💀
So the ISO 9mm is the SMG right now?
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One thing changed compared to before: They are much more reactive to feedbacks.
It’s a shame S1 Reloaded released in this state tho but at the very least very frustrating points like WSP/MTZ are being adressed relatively fast compared to 1-2 years ago imho
When did this go into effect?
Still pissed they merged the eradicator
You need to revert the KATT changes
Meanwhile the weapon balance patch for mp

Not trying to start a war here but I find it funny how everyone on here hates the Interceptor because it kills too fast at too long a range. But at the same time, you love one-shot snipers.
I understand that the recoil and fire rate is the big difference, but if something can one-shot someone at pretty much any distance, you only need one shot and don’t even need to worry about the recoil or fire rate.
The way I see it, if the KATT has 4x worse recoil and fire rate but only takes 1/4 of the bullets to down someone, then that makes it pretty equal to the Interceptor.
Just, how do you defend one-shot guns while being steaming mad about 3-4 shot guns?
If your answer is “but it takes more skill to use the KATT” then I think most of your anger is coming from basically “I don’t think it’s fair that less experienced/skilled players have a gun that they can kill me with. I’m really good at the game so I should be able to crush all the noobs without them having a gun that lets them fight back”.
Translation: “Whiney COD players ruined all the fun”
its almost like…. it was as easy as LITERALLY backspacing on the code and changing the numbers to a lower value….
It’s not the damage, but the recoil. That’s how you balance weapons. The skill in using weapons should be increased.
Un-Nerf the KATT AMR Sniper
Swarm needs the 100 round mag to take serious movement and ads penalties into account