CS2’s anti-cheat might not only be bad at catching cheaters. It might actually be working backwards and banning hundreds of innocent people.
Since release, there have been multiple instances of false ban waves that have affected admin’s, content creators, and even professional players.
So I sat down with a group who’s recently had one mission: getting Valve to listen and fix their mistakes.
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31 Comments
While i do get why they turned to AI for the anti-cheat i still think Overwatch should've stayed,AS could've handled obvious cheaters which is the majority anyway but then the Overwatch system would handle the ones that are not 100% obvious and the AI can't exactly handle it and so 100 ppl using Overwatch giving their opinion about one guy "spinbotting" but not hitting jackshit would obviously mean the guy's innocent since he doesn't kill anything and just spins it's obviously him fucking around with his DPI for fun.
Valve made several mistakes with CS2 imo,one being that they rushed it out the gates too early,it could've stayed a bit more in beta for them to iron out the bigger issues and second issue alongside many others ofcorse is that they removed Overwatch alltogether.
Has anyone played BF5?
Community servers, people made their own anti cheat robot
That robot is 100000% better than any anti cheat these fps game uses
i feel like the majority of "false bans" are actually real bans but they just trying to get account back saying they didnt cheat when they actually did. sorry but i have never cheated on anything and i have never had ban issues from "false bans" yet people keep saying they exist. plus i know first had cheaters try and do this always. lying is what cheaters do guys
i got banned on the 6th for the same reason high dpi spinning but in casual and have seen others banned for the same thing but still banned after MONTHS, slowly losing hope for valve…
Where is the proof that those big youtubers, streamers, so called pro's, not where cheating.. I would like to see these proofs.. High dpi and sensitivty does not give false bans i can confirm i tried so hard to get this but couldn't.. Maybe i have skill issues? No, I am global elite..
As a Valorant player…what is cheating?! Bruh i have 3 years playing valorant not even a cheater happend in a game. Sooo Valorant better i guess
It´s getting ridicolous. VACnet is garbage, they should rollback AI Anticheat and finally give us overwatch back
As long as CS players detest using Hardware based AC, Suffer in Silence, seriously, you deserve all these issues
A wrong vac ban is the worst thing that can happen. Being convicted innocently is always the worst.
I gave up already my friend update his game then he lazy and copy my update file and then somehow I got ban so yeah he say.I just need to call and then so yeah nice.
"valorant killer"
whats pathetically awful is that years ago i got overwatch banned in CS. i was just silver; have a couple hundreds of hours of playing the game, but that doesnt mean i couldnt hit flick or pre-fire lol, i have thousands of hours in r6. next thing i know my account was banned by the overwatch because of silver whinners reported me for flicking and pre-firing with AWP. guess what, now they removed the overwatch, my account is still game banned to this day. bunch of my cs items dusted in my inventory, just wishing i could sell them and never touch this trash ever again
Machine learning has an error rate by definition and no matter how much work you put into it it will always be there. There is no room for an error rate in anticheat software so they should finally give up on that horrible idea.
I got a VAC ban last week and i been playing csgo since it first came out and have all my games and items on this account. I was freaking out because I don't cheat at all and was curious why I got a VAC ban. I messaged and put in a repeal to valve and within a day they removed my VAC ban. If your truly innocent I would contact valve and send them a message explaining what happened.
My assumption for the false spinbot bans is that valve is finally trying to implement server side anticheat but they are unbelievably oblivious to how cheats work and look like that they got the detection embarrassingly wrong. That only paints a picture of them which also explains why VAC was always been completely useless.
Sadly this problem goes way beyond CS2, I've had issues with being kicked out of games on both Fortnite and Farlight 84.
With Fortnite I don't know why it happened at all, it kicked me out number of times citing VPN, connection, or cheating issues. I eventually gave up and went back to playing that game on console as I didn't want to risk getting my account banned simply because the anti-cheat didn't like my PC for some reason.
I've had issues with Farlight 84 too, in fact, you can predict that after every update for Farlight 84 there will be anti cheat problems and the approach I now take with that game is to wait a few days after a patch to give the devs a chance to fix the anti cheat problems. What makes it worse with Farlight 84 is that the devs brag about how well anti-cheat works even though we can all see it is plagued with problems.
Play finals boys
i rather play faceit
Most ppl are bs 😂😂😂 they cheat with walls and try to act like they are just good. 🤣🤣🤣streamers, pros etc… sounds like ppl caught cheating are crying about finally getting caught 💯💯💯💯💯🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I don't think there is any point in unbanning the high DPI bans. Those people knowingly pretended to use cheats, I say the ban is deserved.
uninstalled cs like 1 month ago easy problem solve for me. xd
It is still my core belief that some idiot with big influence at valve is on the cheaters payroll, because CS2 anti cheats doesn't work
one of the issues apart from the lack of a good working anticheat is the New Premier System,.the one that Valve said that will eliminate the competition , ESEA and Faceit ,, thats a nice bubble if you can't see the truth ,, i got my rank when the first open beta dropped , which was meh but it was a beta so i excused it , when the game full launched on September 27th , i started playing premier , for the records i was Supreme in CSGO , anw i got my first rank in cs2 which was low considering my win to lose ration , it was around 3-4 k (now people who lose a lot more matches are placed around 7-9 k ) , nvm i grinded so much against toxic teammates , cheaters in game etc , reached the 10k mark , i started climbing the ranks almost at 15 k , Note that i was getting around 250-350 points if i won and losing 120-150 per match , after 6 consecutive wins at around 14.8k i thought that i ill go to the promotion and then proceed BUT NO,, I WAS GETTING 100 AND LOSIGN 400 , which instantly ruined my will to play the game,, i thought, its just one game ,,the rest will be okay , guess what,, NOPE ,, i kept losing more and more points , 495 , 500 , 395 etc ,,, every game i was playing with that terrible reward if win, ruined my mood , now im around 13,670 and pretty disappointed with valve .
l have always said. 128 tick servers in premier keeping competitive 64 tick for potato pc users and an actual anti-cheat would have been a better update than releasing CS2. I stopped playing CS because of it and l play in China cheating is rampart
Haha well CSGO is a better game lol.
Valo>Csgo
I've been ban of over all 7 months in 2022!! playing with and against cheaters and hacker, valve Ai sucks!!
Serious post here, I thought valve never reversed VAC bans or let people dispute VAC bans? With all these people being falsely banned, how can I be sure that I won't get falsely banned? It makes me not want to play CS2.
If you are going to use AI. Just have them send the clips to a human to review. Then thatbhuman confirming or demying reinforces the AI and can improve itself
Love all your vids, but this one was particularly well done in terms of integrating the data and interviews with the storyline. Thank you! Everday I consider rolling over to Bellevue and going on a hunger strike in front of Valve HQ until we get a working AC. Perhaps with the Riot/Apple lawsuit verdict yesterday, Valve will actually have to engage in normal market analysis and competition since they likely will no longer rely on their Steam monopoly to fund their mediocracy as a game publisher.
Hope this game dies they'll care then
Bulgaria mentioned 🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬