I always saw it as V’s acceptance that he has fully left everything and everyone he loves behind.
fellipec
Why lose oxygen if he wears a space suit with a full mmu?
dragonseth07
It’s clearly supposed to be stabilizing/propulsion jets.
I don’t know enough about space physics to know if that would actually *work*, but the concept has been in scifi forever.
ScaryGent
Why would what’s happening in that scene possibly be “V dies before they even make it to the station for no reason”
UltimateGamingTechie
Is that… space? You can go to space? Wtf?
ThirstyClavicle
Why would he lose oxygen? just breathe?
AKF0RTYKEVIN
those comments make me want to lose oxygen in space
vixroy
Hey, let’s send this guy to the moon just to kill him /s
chezykake
being on the internet makes me lose faith in humanity
Xeliicious
How did people see this ending and think “yeah my man’s dying out there, the end 👍🏻” he’s about to pull the sickest heist in history
kylelovershrek2
i mean it is kinda far away how much steam do those stabiliser things typically have? i reckon they probably run out of something either way
Albre24
This ending made me so sad, I wnated V to stay with Panam 🙁
Dr-False
Him dying at that point would just be beyond anticlimactic. Why would they build up such a huge make or break moment for V just to space him? It doesn’t even make sense for the blue eyes to just space him if they think he’d be of some use to them.
MorenaLedovec
ppl dont understand you cannot just looney tunes swim in the space, and need some kind of propulsion
Chillmonger8
My initial split-second reaction just based on how the scene is shot was that V is losing oxygen because they shoot the scene like it’s the helmet connector that ruptures for a split second, similar to what happens to Commander Shepard in Mass Effect 2.
However, again this was all just a split-second thought in my head because V remains calm and starts approaching the station and then as the scene progresses I was like, “Oh, it’s just propulsion. Wouldn’t make sense V would just randomly suffocate here.”
But I’ll always stand firm that the initial moment it occurs is shot in a way that makes it seem like what a lot of people think. It’s just that common sense from what follows makes it clear what is actually happening, so to be standing firm on ”V definitely suffocates here” is strange.
Vatonage
So what do they think happens with Blue Eyes? He just keeps trying to call V and wonders what the hell happened to the mission?
Legendofnightcity7
It is wired to think that, when I was playing for the first time, I thought, wait what was that!!, what happened!! So not the clearest thing either!
Rickus_Yeet
I think he’s making the faces out of the fact that he’s about to raid the crystal Palast and the adrenaline kicking in
Vidistis
Would have been nice to blur the spoiler
GoldenGecko100
No spoiler tag? Rude.
EbolaDP
Its like those people who thought Lucy was taking her helmet off at the end of Edgerunners.
DailYxDosE
Where is the spoiler tag?
Mago6246
I don’t care what happens in that scene, but I still got goosebumps everytime I see it. I did 100% on this game and this is the best ending for me (haven’t played the DLC so please don’t spoil).
smulfragPL
That would be an absoloutley hillarious ending though. V gets to space to pull the heist but his spacesuit leaks and he dies
dethwysh
So prior to this thread I had never heard this theory and would have agreed it’s dumb, but after looking at a few key shots, I think this has merit…
The shot from behind when the air initially starts “leaking” is different from the scene a few seconds prior, after he leaves the transport ship, you can see the stabilizer bursts fire momentarily. But the shot from behind shows three bursts from the neck area, in three directions, and they continue jetting while Never Fade Away begins playing…
Usually, stabilizer bursts aren’t constant like that because in space there isn’t wind resistance to slow you down, you can just keep accelerating, and if you accelerate (ie burn too much fuel/propellant to get up to speed), you need an amount of propellant firing in the opposite direction to *de*celerate so you don’t smash into the thing you’re attempting to board/dock with/land on.
The expression in V’s face could be the G-Forces of the acceleration, or it could be them struggling for breath, or some combination.
All this to say, I’m really not sure. I thought the Sun was the best ending cuz it seemed like V was going to do the heist and maybe get saved, but this theory made me watch it all with fresh eyes. Maybe I’m just completely dumb and don’t know physics (I don’t really), but before re-watching the scenes a few times, I wouldn’t think this theory has any merit, and now, I kinda do…?
It definitely still seems open to interpretation, but what I saw really calls into question my belief that The Sun was one of the better endings… I’m open to competing theories as well. I’d much rather believe The Sun was the ending with the most hope.
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Loses oxygen? He just got out of the ship…
I always saw it as V’s acceptance that he has fully left everything and everyone he loves behind.
Why lose oxygen if he wears a space suit with a full mmu?
It’s clearly supposed to be stabilizing/propulsion jets.
I don’t know enough about space physics to know if that would actually *work*, but the concept has been in scifi forever.
Why would what’s happening in that scene possibly be “V dies before they even make it to the station for no reason”
Is that… space? You can go to space? Wtf?
Why would he lose oxygen? just breathe?
those comments make me want to lose oxygen in space
Hey, let’s send this guy to the moon just to kill him /s
being on the internet makes me lose faith in humanity
How did people see this ending and think “yeah my man’s dying out there, the end 👍🏻” he’s about to pull the sickest heist in history
i mean it is kinda far away how much steam do those stabiliser things typically have? i reckon they probably run out of something either way
This ending made me so sad, I wnated V to stay with Panam 🙁
Him dying at that point would just be beyond anticlimactic. Why would they build up such a huge make or break moment for V just to space him? It doesn’t even make sense for the blue eyes to just space him if they think he’d be of some use to them.
ppl dont understand you cannot just looney tunes swim in the space, and need some kind of propulsion
My initial split-second reaction just based on how the scene is shot was that V is losing oxygen because they shoot the scene like it’s the helmet connector that ruptures for a split second, similar to what happens to Commander Shepard in Mass Effect 2.
However, again this was all just a split-second thought in my head because V remains calm and starts approaching the station and then as the scene progresses I was like, “Oh, it’s just propulsion. Wouldn’t make sense V would just randomly suffocate here.”
But I’ll always stand firm that the initial moment it occurs is shot in a way that makes it seem like what a lot of people think. It’s just that common sense from what follows makes it clear what is actually happening, so to be standing firm on ”V definitely suffocates here” is strange.
So what do they think happens with Blue Eyes? He just keeps trying to call V and wonders what the hell happened to the mission?
It is wired to think that, when I was playing for the first time, I thought, wait what was that!!, what happened!! So not the clearest thing either!
I think he’s making the faces out of the fact that he’s about to raid the crystal Palast and the adrenaline kicking in
Would have been nice to blur the spoiler
No spoiler tag? Rude.
Its like those people who thought Lucy was taking her helmet off at the end of Edgerunners.
Where is the spoiler tag?
I don’t care what happens in that scene, but I still got goosebumps everytime I see it. I did 100% on this game and this is the best ending for me (haven’t played the DLC so please don’t spoil).
That would be an absoloutley hillarious ending though. V gets to space to pull the heist but his spacesuit leaks and he dies
So prior to this thread I had never heard this theory and would have agreed it’s dumb, but after looking at a few key shots, I think this has merit…
The shot from behind when the air initially starts “leaking” is different from the scene a few seconds prior, after he leaves the transport ship, you can see the stabilizer bursts fire momentarily. But the shot from behind shows three bursts from the neck area, in three directions, and they continue jetting while Never Fade Away begins playing…
Usually, stabilizer bursts aren’t constant like that because in space there isn’t wind resistance to slow you down, you can just keep accelerating, and if you accelerate (ie burn too much fuel/propellant to get up to speed), you need an amount of propellant firing in the opposite direction to *de*celerate so you don’t smash into the thing you’re attempting to board/dock with/land on.
The expression in V’s face could be the G-Forces of the acceleration, or it could be them struggling for breath, or some combination.
Add to this that CDPR recently said of PL that they [“[…] always wanted to make an ending in which V gets the cure and survives,” reveals Sarzyński, “but the cost of it had to be huge.”](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cyberpunk-2077-phantom-liberty-never-144446936.html?guccounter=1) That line makes me wonder even more about The Sun’s ending.
All this to say, I’m really not sure. I thought the Sun was the best ending cuz it seemed like V was going to do the heist and maybe get saved, but this theory made me watch it all with fresh eyes. Maybe I’m just completely dumb and don’t know physics (I don’t really), but before re-watching the scenes a few times, I wouldn’t think this theory has any merit, and now, I kinda do…?
It definitely still seems open to interpretation, but what I saw really calls into question my belief that The Sun was one of the better endings… I’m open to competing theories as well. I’d much rather believe The Sun was the ending with the most hope.