Comment I saw on this video. Thoughts on the potential new suffix for all the other subgneres?
Comment I saw on this video. Thoughts on the potential new suffix for all the other subgneres?
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It apply more to the music or other cultures. Cyberpunk is fictive and a set of settings
We need to stop with the suffixes. Not everything is punk, but a new suffix isn’t going to help. Let’s just describe things
I like the question of the video. Cyberpunk unapologetically shows the fucked up future all the powerfull corporations, and nations with big military complex slowly drive us towards in spite of their propaganda and the twisted reality of their “family friendly” sterile world, that they would like for us to believe that we live in it. It is a powerfull and quite simple movement, that shows exploitation of human mind and soul for the sake of dollar. Lately i think there is kind of a conspiracy to dumb down cyberpunk down to sexy girls in front of neon backgrounds. Why? In this world every thought that is not “obey” no matter if its the dollar, society norms or government is seen as ridiculous. The only thing you get back from rebellion against these is the drones, that go “aW fUck YoU sOcIeTy” with like picture of joker under it or some shit. But the funny thing is that punks don’t care about being ridiculed and thats why they are dangerous to corporate sterility and the military complex. This why cyberpunk is the bigest fuck you genre in this age of indiocy and ignorance towards human exploitation. I stand by all i said in this comment and every piece of media that lacks thought in these themes shouldn’t be called “punk”.
These days, a lot of punk rock isn’t punk.
I kinda like the linguistic differentiation, I can see this being useful, if not constantly argued about. 😛
I liked a video I saw once describing what is “punk”
Guy asks his friend: “what is punk?”
Friend kicks a trash can in the street and says “that’s punk”
Guy then kicks another trash can, looks at him and says “so that’s punk?”
Friend then says “no, that’s trendy”
I think “punk” has lot more about being yourself and being original/unique than just following certain aesthetics or social guidelines on how you should look/behave to be “punk”
Cyberpunk is cyberpunk and I’m not calling it anything else.
Adding “core” to things means going to the extreme with it, metal/deathcore is what fucked it up. they were supposed to goto the extreme with it but they just emo’ed up death metal and it became trendycore and now we get shit like this. “Core” doesn’t mean the absense of punk, if anything it means an abundance of it.
Cyber is already an advective.
The “core” suffix already has its own meaning. If something has a kinda cyber aesthetic but isn’t anti-establishment or critiquing the status quo in some way, then it isn’t cyberpunk or cybercore it’s just… cyber.
I didnt see the video
But another one was talking about it with steampunk, solarpunk and trashpunk I think. The autor explain that the term punk can be used as movement that tell: i’m glad you disagree with my style of life.
Cyberpunk is the most punk out of the 4 of them
Steampunk was for the reticence of evolving in new form of technology, always staying in this weird middle lane between late 1800 and great technological advance.
Trashpunk was just punk bc of the trash part.
And solarpunk was for prefering a symbiotic relation between technology and nature, Being the opposite of what s happening today
Idk if it was interesting to read but I loved the video
Why isn’t that just dystopian sci-fi? What specifically makes this setting different from a normal metropolis in 70 years time? That’s the suffix right?
What about hardcore punk? Is that punkcore or corepunk?
Cyberpunk without punk? So, sci-fi?
now I want to found the cottagepunk movement. something like red riding hood listening to “fairy tales in Cambodia” on loop
Core itself comes from hardcore though which is a subgenre of punk
Yes I think this is very important for sci fi as a whole
would please gatekeeping purist I suppose