Have they all agreed to go in on wz2 or something?
Yolotime1234
Bomb drones, stuns for years, auto shotguns, snipers worse than LMGs on a distance. I mean, the game is kinda bad..
Killer038
That bad, huh? Personally, I stopped playing in January
flipper7574
AI and not existing footsteps made me quit
holmwreck
I’m glad the big names are finally doing it. This game is a fucking dumpster fire and the attempts to suck as much money as possible and cater to shitters is very apparent.
Nintendo_Pro_03
I’m wondering the same thing, too. Yesterday, it felt like everyone was really disliking Warzone 2 out of nowhere. A streamer I follow, JGOD, Huskerrs, Iron, ZLaner, and probably more.
Is it really the last straw for some of the player base?
BlueWammy
Maybe Activision will finally wake the fuck up. Absolute shambles of a game since day 1.
zhubaohi
Don’t even mention that it’s season 2 and they still haven’t addressed notifications like precision/gulag closed is right on top of your crosshair, making it very disturbing and impossible to aim.
over9000asians
“Pros”/Content Creators don’t like it. Numbers are telling us casuals don’t like it that much either. All the dumb shit they’ve been doing is catching up to them since neither side is happy.
I’m sure some people on this Reddit will say “me and my buddies have been having a blast, don’t change anything.” But that’s why the game is failing on both ends
hamsternose
I’m enjoying it personally, but then I’m not a streamer sat there for 8-10 hours playing the same thing over and over and over again and again, day after day, month after month.
iConcy
This stuff usually tends to pop up when they notice their video engagement on WZ2 videos going down. They make a fuss so they can go make videos about the fuss they’re making. All these people were talking shit about Caldera too.
Not saying WS2 is great or whatever, it’s not, I don’t play it nearly as much as I expected to. But these people are always crying about something.
EDIT: “Fire shottys and laggy servers” literally described half of the time on verdansk as well, the time they all want to go back to lol
dinzyy
Game is horrible atm. Snipers are useless, TTK is waaay too fast, little to no hardcover outside of POI’s, buystations are hot garbage (so regain is almost impossible), audio is nonexistent, crashes and bugs, clunky movement.
Just to name a few.
pewpewlasersandshit
Ultimately Season 2 didn’t fix nearly enough issues a big part of the community had with the game. So it i’m really not surprised that those who still play WZ2 are getting their pitchforks out again.
jeevesneverlied
Bro, I’ve been back on caldera since October. WZ2 is actual trash
Zero_Hood
For me it’s the lack of communication, don’t mention it’s the genre defining game with 3k devs and then leave a meta of two broken guns for over 100 days, they rarely give feedback apart from new season updates and when something is fun (one shot sniping) they miraculously nerf it, it’s not even nostalgia talking but bring back Verdansk. People act like Caldera is good but the map is terrible, it’s just Warzone 2 is that bad people enjoy it
Hybridized
I just find it insane they pretty much insta nerfed the 1 shot sniper but somehow this shotgun has been totally fine for them to leave untouched.
gigi696969
I love the feeling I had in Wz1.
Don’t get it in Wz2.
Shakira Island was nice for a while but now I don’t enjoy that either
saagars147
I played solos last night, played 3 games and got so bored. Everyone using meta shotgun and I always had about 80k with nothing to spend it on, cash is pointless. So I thought screw it I’ll hop into shoot the ship and camo grind, and of course in shipment everyone using the stupid shotgun as well. There’s no variety and it’s boring af.
waggawag
I’ve really noticed that I could play wz1 for like 2-4 hours solo and enjoy myself. These days, i usually play 1-2 games tops then I’m done. Whole game just feels like there’s no way to improve beyond basic choices/rotations. Somehow AA got buffed, so did prox mines/claymores, we got other campy devices, movement is really clunky and fighting close range is a coin flip instead of skill based, 90% of the guns are uninteresting. I don’t understand how this happened. How did they fall so far from greatness?
TheMandalorian1918
DMZ players
JohnnyBlazex
Infinity Ward always has been the studio who’s more stubborn and proud than other studios such as Treyarch. Infinity Ward hasn’t been transparent for the last couple of years with the community or listened carefully only if they notice losing players. Then they quickly change settings and gameplay. A couple of months ago, when WZ2 came out, there was an article or story on how the devs of IW saw WZ2 as a classic BR experience thus completely changing it compared to WZ1 to make WZ2 more ”RNG BR-ish and realistic” instead of slide cancelling and quickly getting loadouts and play.
Treyarch on the other hand has always been my favourite studio. Their games just hit different and feel way more like classic arcade cod compared to the realism simulator IW is trying to throw at us. Can’t wait for them to release a title in 2024 with a new BR map and Rebirth Island returning.
kaYza_Ger
This is a good thing – maybe devs will listen. They are more likely to listen to the creators that helped make WZ1 what it is today than to us the normal players.
As for me, we are playing WZ2 since release maybe once or twice every month. Down from once or twice weekly. The game just gets boring really quick. Stale is the right description actually
endianess
What’s baffling to me is how slow they are to react. Like the TTK is too quick and i’m pretty sure they must know it but they still haven’t changed it. Even though surely it’s just a simple set of tweaks or should be. It’s just not fun getting beamed in a blink of an eye from someone medium range. You have no time to react let alone move. It’s just stupid. That’s why so many people just camp in a building and play for zone.
LocoTech27
Season 2 update was the real life example of trying to put lipstick on a pig.
It was fun for a week with the changes mainly the new map, but quickly got stale again.
Something at the core of this game is off.
Preston_Garvy-MM
Warzone 1.0 with Verdansk and Verdansk 84 was more or less the best. Fair and balanced. No crazy stim meta, no vanguard guns being meta/better than MW19 or CW guns, no PDS…
Shifting to warzone caldera and Fortnite chapter 3 Season 4. Both were equally bad. Casuals hated the stim meta as much as the chrome meta shit. Vanguard guns being meta is like saying the chrome assault rifle is meta. I hated it. Even the “weaker” guns from vanguard like the as44 somehow can outperform guns like the M13 or groza with 5 attachments out of 10 attachments.
Moving on to warzone 2.0 and Fortnite chapter 4 season 1. As much as I hate to admit it, FNBR has definitely improved a bunch things. Heck, it doesn’t even get “stale” after a few weeks. Sure, no one liked the quests being a weekly thing but there was the hammer meta which was then disabled and fixed. What about the RPK meta? Sure, it got nerfed but I still see a bunch of people using it. Should the RPK get another nerf? Most likely. Plus not all of us have time to play warzone 2 or own the multiplayer to unlock attachments like using the shitty lachman 762 to the lachman sub (MP5). Even if we own the game, some of us can’t play the multiplayer without Xbox live or the PS version of Xbox live.
In short, I’d rather stick to warzone 1.0, Fortnite chapter 2, apex (before Newcastle, the fat girl, the black wall guy or something… Even before lifeline got her revive shield removed) or just some halo forge map that simulates a battle royale game.
rxmi10
hopefully the devs wake up lol
JohnnySasaki20
They aren’t wrong though. The TTK is insanely low, the SBMM is insanely high, the footstep sounds are nonexistent, the snipers aren’t one shot to the head, and a host of other issues are why I stopped playing a while ago. I got on yesterday and played about 3 games of DMZ because my cousin asked me to help her with something (I hadn’t played in weeks before that), and after she got off I saw they added stats for BR. I thought, “oh that’s cool, maybe I’ll play a few solos to get on the board.” I literally couldn’t even force myself to play a single game, lol. It’s honestly depressing just *thinking* about playing.
Christian_andre777
Broadside is making me sick I hate that thing
ibabyXD
SMGs can kill you within 165ms, but a **slow Sniper that’s heavier than LMG needs 2-3 Headshots.**
All whilst SMG/AR got higher bullet velocity than Snipers and can shoot even further.
Yeah that’s so “fun” I’m sure the sniping community can’t wait to get in game and damage some armors that enemies got 25 of with multiple self revives XD
RavenSoftware’s gun balance influence over WZ2 is why this game is less balanced than MWII with the same guns.
They’re always anti-snipers, the fact that they nerfed 0.03% pickrate snipers in WZ1, whilst buffing the top 3 ARs says a lot. **We’ve had 3 Years & 200 Guns from 3 COD Games**, yet most lobbies used the same 2 guns at most from each category.
**You’d think they’ve learnt anything from their past, but nope too stubborn.**
Damien23123
What’s up is people have finally reached their limit. They absolutely shit the bed with both WZ2 and MW2, and there’s no getting round that.
I can see Apex taking over again, and deservedly so
Praecanatus
Animations take forever lmaoooo, try climbing or diving or doing anything else in reality you will be surprised how fast they are.
dirk_1745
It is weird because there were so many changes added to late Caldera which improved the user experience, other than a few weird stuff like speedboost tokens. Even basic items in the UI/HUD.
Hardly any of these are in S2 of WZ2, nevermnd S1. I get that development takes time, but….
Due_Abbreviations554
Some streamers are now coming out saying they were biting their tongues because they want to be invited to all the CoD events but now they are all thinking screw it, what does it matter if the game sucks and my viewership is down regardless
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Have they all agreed to go in on wz2 or something?
Bomb drones, stuns for years, auto shotguns, snipers worse than LMGs on a distance. I mean, the game is kinda bad..
That bad, huh? Personally, I stopped playing in January
AI and not existing footsteps made me quit
I’m glad the big names are finally doing it. This game is a fucking dumpster fire and the attempts to suck as much money as possible and cater to shitters is very apparent.
I’m wondering the same thing, too. Yesterday, it felt like everyone was really disliking Warzone 2 out of nowhere. A streamer I follow, JGOD, Huskerrs, Iron, ZLaner, and probably more.
Is it really the last straw for some of the player base?
Maybe Activision will finally wake the fuck up. Absolute shambles of a game since day 1.
Don’t even mention that it’s season 2 and they still haven’t addressed notifications like precision/gulag closed is right on top of your crosshair, making it very disturbing and impossible to aim.
“Pros”/Content Creators don’t like it. Numbers are telling us casuals don’t like it that much either. All the dumb shit they’ve been doing is catching up to them since neither side is happy.
I’m sure some people on this Reddit will say “me and my buddies have been having a blast, don’t change anything.” But that’s why the game is failing on both ends
I’m enjoying it personally, but then I’m not a streamer sat there for 8-10 hours playing the same thing over and over and over again and again, day after day, month after month.
This stuff usually tends to pop up when they notice their video engagement on WZ2 videos going down. They make a fuss so they can go make videos about the fuss they’re making. All these people were talking shit about Caldera too.
Not saying WS2 is great or whatever, it’s not, I don’t play it nearly as much as I expected to. But these people are always crying about something.
EDIT: “Fire shottys and laggy servers” literally described half of the time on verdansk as well, the time they all want to go back to lol
Game is horrible atm. Snipers are useless, TTK is waaay too fast, little to no hardcover outside of POI’s, buystations are hot garbage (so regain is almost impossible), audio is nonexistent, crashes and bugs, clunky movement.
Just to name a few.
Ultimately Season 2 didn’t fix nearly enough issues a big part of the community had with the game. So it i’m really not surprised that those who still play WZ2 are getting their pitchforks out again.
Bro, I’ve been back on caldera since October. WZ2 is actual trash
For me it’s the lack of communication, don’t mention it’s the genre defining game with 3k devs and then leave a meta of two broken guns for over 100 days, they rarely give feedback apart from new season updates and when something is fun (one shot sniping) they miraculously nerf it, it’s not even nostalgia talking but bring back Verdansk. People act like Caldera is good but the map is terrible, it’s just Warzone 2 is that bad people enjoy it
I just find it insane they pretty much insta nerfed the 1 shot sniper but somehow this shotgun has been totally fine for them to leave untouched.
I love the feeling I had in Wz1.
Don’t get it in Wz2.
Shakira Island was nice for a while but now I don’t enjoy that either
I played solos last night, played 3 games and got so bored. Everyone using meta shotgun and I always had about 80k with nothing to spend it on, cash is pointless. So I thought screw it I’ll hop into shoot the ship and camo grind, and of course in shipment everyone using the stupid shotgun as well. There’s no variety and it’s boring af.
I’ve really noticed that I could play wz1 for like 2-4 hours solo and enjoy myself. These days, i usually play 1-2 games tops then I’m done. Whole game just feels like there’s no way to improve beyond basic choices/rotations. Somehow AA got buffed, so did prox mines/claymores, we got other campy devices, movement is really clunky and fighting close range is a coin flip instead of skill based, 90% of the guns are uninteresting. I don’t understand how this happened. How did they fall so far from greatness?
DMZ players
Infinity Ward always has been the studio who’s more stubborn and proud than other studios such as Treyarch. Infinity Ward hasn’t been transparent for the last couple of years with the community or listened carefully only if they notice losing players. Then they quickly change settings and gameplay. A couple of months ago, when WZ2 came out, there was an article or story on how the devs of IW saw WZ2 as a classic BR experience thus completely changing it compared to WZ1 to make WZ2 more ”RNG BR-ish and realistic” instead of slide cancelling and quickly getting loadouts and play.
Treyarch on the other hand has always been my favourite studio. Their games just hit different and feel way more like classic arcade cod compared to the realism simulator IW is trying to throw at us. Can’t wait for them to release a title in 2024 with a new BR map and Rebirth Island returning.
This is a good thing – maybe devs will listen. They are more likely to listen to the creators that helped make WZ1 what it is today than to us the normal players.
As for me, we are playing WZ2 since release maybe once or twice every month. Down from once or twice weekly. The game just gets boring really quick. Stale is the right description actually
What’s baffling to me is how slow they are to react. Like the TTK is too quick and i’m pretty sure they must know it but they still haven’t changed it. Even though surely it’s just a simple set of tweaks or should be. It’s just not fun getting beamed in a blink of an eye from someone medium range. You have no time to react let alone move. It’s just stupid. That’s why so many people just camp in a building and play for zone.
Season 2 update was the real life example of trying to put lipstick on a pig.
It was fun for a week with the changes mainly the new map, but quickly got stale again.
Something at the core of this game is off.
Warzone 1.0 with Verdansk and Verdansk 84 was more or less the best. Fair and balanced. No crazy stim meta, no vanguard guns being meta/better than MW19 or CW guns, no PDS…
Shifting to warzone caldera and Fortnite chapter 3 Season 4. Both were equally bad. Casuals hated the stim meta as much as the chrome meta shit. Vanguard guns being meta is like saying the chrome assault rifle is meta. I hated it. Even the “weaker” guns from vanguard like the as44 somehow can outperform guns like the M13 or groza with 5 attachments out of 10 attachments.
Moving on to warzone 2.0 and Fortnite chapter 4 season 1. As much as I hate to admit it, FNBR has definitely improved a bunch things. Heck, it doesn’t even get “stale” after a few weeks. Sure, no one liked the quests being a weekly thing but there was the hammer meta which was then disabled and fixed. What about the RPK meta? Sure, it got nerfed but I still see a bunch of people using it. Should the RPK get another nerf? Most likely. Plus not all of us have time to play warzone 2 or own the multiplayer to unlock attachments like using the shitty lachman 762 to the lachman sub (MP5). Even if we own the game, some of us can’t play the multiplayer without Xbox live or the PS version of Xbox live.
In short, I’d rather stick to warzone 1.0, Fortnite chapter 2, apex (before Newcastle, the fat girl, the black wall guy or something… Even before lifeline got her revive shield removed) or just some halo forge map that simulates a battle royale game.
hopefully the devs wake up lol
They aren’t wrong though. The TTK is insanely low, the SBMM is insanely high, the footstep sounds are nonexistent, the snipers aren’t one shot to the head, and a host of other issues are why I stopped playing a while ago. I got on yesterday and played about 3 games of DMZ because my cousin asked me to help her with something (I hadn’t played in weeks before that), and after she got off I saw they added stats for BR. I thought, “oh that’s cool, maybe I’ll play a few solos to get on the board.” I literally couldn’t even force myself to play a single game, lol. It’s honestly depressing just *thinking* about playing.
Broadside is making me sick I hate that thing
SMGs can kill you within 165ms, but a **slow Sniper that’s heavier than LMG needs 2-3 Headshots.**
All whilst SMG/AR got higher bullet velocity than Snipers and can shoot even further.
Yeah that’s so “fun” I’m sure the sniping community can’t wait to get in game and damage some armors that enemies got 25 of with multiple self revives XD
RavenSoftware’s gun balance influence over WZ2 is why this game is less balanced than MWII with the same guns.
They’re always anti-snipers, the fact that they nerfed 0.03% pickrate snipers in WZ1, whilst buffing the top 3 ARs says a lot. **We’ve had 3 Years & 200 Guns from 3 COD Games**, yet most lobbies used the same 2 guns at most from each category.
**You’d think they’ve learnt anything from their past, but nope too stubborn.**
What’s up is people have finally reached their limit. They absolutely shit the bed with both WZ2 and MW2, and there’s no getting round that.
I can see Apex taking over again, and deservedly so
Animations take forever lmaoooo, try climbing or diving or doing anything else in reality you will be surprised how fast they are.
It is weird because there were so many changes added to late Caldera which improved the user experience, other than a few weird stuff like speedboost tokens. Even basic items in the UI/HUD.
Hardly any of these are in S2 of WZ2, nevermnd S1. I get that development takes time, but….
Some streamers are now coming out saying they were biting their tongues because they want to be invited to all the CoD events but now they are all thinking screw it, what does it matter if the game sucks and my viewership is down regardless