That’s not system requirements pages that are failing really.
It should never be the case when you have a machine well above average and not being able to squeeze 30 fps at many locations and have stutters everywhere.
polio23
I have 3090 and a 7800x3d as well as 64gb of ram
It runs just okay.
Frozen_Dervish
It’s not the system requirements failing. It’s the Gaming company not doing proper testing before release and not optimizing.
Goatknyght
I don’t know why it does not get into the thick investor’s heads that the more they optimize the game, the more people will be able to buy their product.
ThatsSoMetatarsal
I think you meant “abject lesson”
TheBrownEvilPig
Don’t think it’s a requirements page issue, as the game is unoptimized regardless of specs (running a 4090 with an i7). Game runs fine for me, but there are definitely moments where fps drops in town.
I do gotta say one thing that has irked me about this whole issue though. I totally get this criticism for DD2, but baldurs gate 3 was so much worse than this for minimum spec builds. My SO’s laptop at the time was decently within minimum specs for BG3, and the game practically did not work. Textures would take minutes to load in, if they did at all, characters wouldn’t animate properly or just T pose, and the game would basically have a stroke if you tried to load into another area.
I never heard anything about this, with the only point of concern being Act 3 from what I’ve heard. BG3 is still an amazing game, but I think the community bias comes out in situations like this.
SIL3NCER360
Its because of Denuvo. Its been proven ages ago that denvuo causes stutters and performance issues. So until its removed the performance will be a problem no amount of patches can fix it.
Slydoggen
They thought we wouldn’t notice.
We noticed
Curse3242
PC Optimization is at it’s lowest point.
My biggest problem is the games are so locked that the community can’t fix the problems either. Companies either chased down the talent or bought them off
Back in the days games almost always got 20% fps boost with mods and stuff and changing ini files
It’s crazy. It was years ago DLSS/FSR was introduced when I thought my PC will scrape through. The opposite happened, games now NEED it to get okayish performance but they don’t even look that good
Old games like GTA 5, Watch Dogs, Arkham Knight, God of War, AC Unity, RDR2 look way better than games rn and they run on old hardware
No_Conclusion_5834
Its because we keep making games for consoles from about a decade ago. The xbox one/s and ps4 are holding things back.
Vo_Mimbre
GeForce Experience needs to add a “will my game run ok” feature for *before* you buy the game.
jntjr2005
Look, I hate to say it but game developers are giving 0 fucks about performance these days in a rushed attempt to get the product out the door asap. I’ve never seen so many issues with performance as past few recent years and it’s ridiculous. The whole “oh buy broken game now and we fix later” scheme is trash. I can’t imagine how GTA6 is going to play.
Ketsuo
This is why I love my consoles now. My minimum system requirements are “Xbox” or “ps5” or “switch”. And that’s it.
Inside_Performance32
It’s a complete lack of optimisation because it costs money
Trender07
Idk but I’m playing fine with my 3070
Nebula9545
I stopped caring after I was running fallout4 max everything on a computer that came with vista – 2.66hgz (q6600 cpu? & 9800gx2 card), and just overclocked my CPU for the next PC to reach the 3.2ghz min for rage 2 😆
Bootychomper23
Cyberpunk runs better at full 4k and with path-tracing this is an optimization issue imo.
rayrayfouad
If I can play a game like horizon forbidden west at 60 fps , then I should at least get a stable 30 out of this trash ass game.
Selfmade-Darks0lsv3t
These overall requirement infos are more like “if the game runs consistently” theeeen these are the requirements.
Besides this they have had to put different requirements for every level and some level wouldn’t be able to be rated so they do an estimated approximation so we know more or less “eeeeeh maybe it will work” no objective test can tell which system you’ll need if the game even stutters with a i7 14900k, 64 gig ram and 4090 ti rtx super hyper mega.
SloppyHayabusa
I refunded this immediately as the performance was incredibly poor for my system, I’ll wait for this to come on sale a few years from now when it’s been optimized better.
BanzaiTree
abject*
Critical_Werewolf
The guy who wrote the title of this article doesn’t know the word “abject”.
youngcoyote14
Final Lesson: Stop firing your devs.
UnsettllingDwarf
Dumb ass people buy this shit and accept shitty optimization.
NewArtificialHuman
Optimizing games for consoles is more straight forward, the specs are not as variable.
So what if the GPU companies releases GPUs specifically for gaming, but instead of the numerous variations, we get a few, like 3 Nvidia GPUs and 3 AMD GPUs, so developers know what to expect.
How about dropping the price too.
Rizenstrom
It’s an optimization issue but if you want to be mad at anyone be mad at your fellow gamers. Gaming companies exist to make money and the community has shown them time and time again they can release games early, get a bunch of pre-orders and day one sales, deal with some backlash, release an apology they probably drafted before the game even launched, optimize the game, then drop the price for another boost in sales.
Merwanor
DLSS and frame generation should not be a requirement for games to run well.
It feels like when these features become normal, developers have just stopped caring about optimization and delivers terrible performance unless you have newer cards. I feel they are doing this on purpose so Nvidia can sell more cards.
umbrella_CO
I watched Charlie fail to get past the first 10 minutes of the game for an hour.
The dude has a 4090, a 13th Gen i9, and 64GB DDR5
I think poorly optimized games and developers making crappy ports are the problem.
The game “runs” on a PS5. Come on now
Clint1027
Dragons dogma 2’s audience is proof that gamers can accept mediocrity as valuable. Witcher 3 and red dead redemption 2 came out over a decade ago and dd2 has about 1/3 the content those games did.
NikoEatsPancakes
I have a 7800X3D and a 4090. You physically cannot buy a better system for gaming and I get 45 FPS in towns with 1% lows of 15-20. The system required to run this game smoothly just does not exist, the game’s just plain fucked.
snorlz
japanese devs and bad PC optimization, classic combo. theyve only recently started getting better- like w RE remake- but those are not performance intensive games.
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That’s not system requirements pages that are failing really.
It should never be the case when you have a machine well above average and not being able to squeeze 30 fps at many locations and have stutters everywhere.
I have 3090 and a 7800x3d as well as 64gb of ram
It runs just okay.
It’s not the system requirements failing. It’s the Gaming company not doing proper testing before release and not optimizing.
I don’t know why it does not get into the thick investor’s heads that the more they optimize the game, the more people will be able to buy their product.
I think you meant “abject lesson”
Don’t think it’s a requirements page issue, as the game is unoptimized regardless of specs (running a 4090 with an i7). Game runs fine for me, but there are definitely moments where fps drops in town.
I do gotta say one thing that has irked me about this whole issue though. I totally get this criticism for DD2, but baldurs gate 3 was so much worse than this for minimum spec builds. My SO’s laptop at the time was decently within minimum specs for BG3, and the game practically did not work. Textures would take minutes to load in, if they did at all, characters wouldn’t animate properly or just T pose, and the game would basically have a stroke if you tried to load into another area.
I never heard anything about this, with the only point of concern being Act 3 from what I’ve heard. BG3 is still an amazing game, but I think the community bias comes out in situations like this.
Its because of Denuvo. Its been proven ages ago that denvuo causes stutters and performance issues. So until its removed the performance will be a problem no amount of patches can fix it.
They thought we wouldn’t notice.
We noticed
PC Optimization is at it’s lowest point.
My biggest problem is the games are so locked that the community can’t fix the problems either. Companies either chased down the talent or bought them off
Back in the days games almost always got 20% fps boost with mods and stuff and changing ini files
It’s crazy. It was years ago DLSS/FSR was introduced when I thought my PC will scrape through. The opposite happened, games now NEED it to get okayish performance but they don’t even look that good
Old games like GTA 5, Watch Dogs, Arkham Knight, God of War, AC Unity, RDR2 look way better than games rn and they run on old hardware
Its because we keep making games for consoles from about a decade ago. The xbox one/s and ps4 are holding things back.
GeForce Experience needs to add a “will my game run ok” feature for *before* you buy the game.
Look, I hate to say it but game developers are giving 0 fucks about performance these days in a rushed attempt to get the product out the door asap. I’ve never seen so many issues with performance as past few recent years and it’s ridiculous. The whole “oh buy broken game now and we fix later” scheme is trash. I can’t imagine how GTA6 is going to play.
This is why I love my consoles now. My minimum system requirements are “Xbox” or “ps5” or “switch”. And that’s it.
It’s a complete lack of optimisation because it costs money
Idk but I’m playing fine with my 3070
I stopped caring after I was running fallout4 max everything on a computer that came with vista – 2.66hgz (q6600 cpu? & 9800gx2 card), and just overclocked my CPU for the next PC to reach the 3.2ghz min for rage 2 😆
Cyberpunk runs better at full 4k and with path-tracing this is an optimization issue imo.
If I can play a game like horizon forbidden west at 60 fps , then I should at least get a stable 30 out of this trash ass game.
These overall requirement infos are more like “if the game runs consistently” theeeen these are the requirements.
Besides this they have had to put different requirements for every level and some level wouldn’t be able to be rated so they do an estimated approximation so we know more or less “eeeeeh maybe it will work” no objective test can tell which system you’ll need if the game even stutters with a i7 14900k, 64 gig ram and 4090 ti rtx super hyper mega.
I refunded this immediately as the performance was incredibly poor for my system, I’ll wait for this to come on sale a few years from now when it’s been optimized better.
abject*
The guy who wrote the title of this article doesn’t know the word “abject”.
Final Lesson: Stop firing your devs.
Dumb ass people buy this shit and accept shitty optimization.
Optimizing games for consoles is more straight forward, the specs are not as variable.
So what if the GPU companies releases GPUs specifically for gaming, but instead of the numerous variations, we get a few, like 3 Nvidia GPUs and 3 AMD GPUs, so developers know what to expect.
How about dropping the price too.
It’s an optimization issue but if you want to be mad at anyone be mad at your fellow gamers. Gaming companies exist to make money and the community has shown them time and time again they can release games early, get a bunch of pre-orders and day one sales, deal with some backlash, release an apology they probably drafted before the game even launched, optimize the game, then drop the price for another boost in sales.
DLSS and frame generation should not be a requirement for games to run well.
It feels like when these features become normal, developers have just stopped caring about optimization and delivers terrible performance unless you have newer cards. I feel they are doing this on purpose so Nvidia can sell more cards.
I watched Charlie fail to get past the first 10 minutes of the game for an hour.
The dude has a 4090, a 13th Gen i9, and 64GB DDR5
I think poorly optimized games and developers making crappy ports are the problem.
The game “runs” on a PS5. Come on now
Dragons dogma 2’s audience is proof that gamers can accept mediocrity as valuable. Witcher 3 and red dead redemption 2 came out over a decade ago and dd2 has about 1/3 the content those games did.
I have a 7800X3D and a 4090. You physically cannot buy a better system for gaming and I get 45 FPS in towns with 1% lows of 15-20. The system required to run this game smoothly just does not exist, the game’s just plain fucked.
japanese devs and bad PC optimization, classic combo. theyve only recently started getting better- like w RE remake- but those are not performance intensive games.